Cigar Pass Insurance

Discussion in 'Completed Cigar Passes' started by emodx, Feb 3, 2004.


  1. emodx

    emodx Banned

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    Hello all, the purpose for CPI is to insure the basic passes against theft, loss, and damage. It also will save money for the people in your passes. By the host using CPI, others wont have to pay the $1.30 for insuring the pass for $50. As of right now, CPI can not be everything to everybody. There are just a handful ISOM's, and no rare cigars. But as CPI grows, so will the bank. I also have a couple of ideas on how to make the bank a little nicer. I will post the contents of the bank in a few days as I get it organized, but there are around 100 sticks. But for now, here are the bylaws:

    CPI Bylaws

    The objective of Cigar Pass Insurance, from here on out referred to as CPI, is to provide additional insurance above and beyond what is offered by the carrier. Many of the cigars passed in Cigar Passes are difficult to obtain, and many times harder to replace.

    Responsibility of the insured:
    · Once pay dues in cigars equivalent to $12-15 US dollars.
    · Dues will be sent with the outer packaging marked in reference to CPI, and the inner bag will have a small slip of paper marked CPI and your handle.
    · A PM will be sent to the board members with the contents of proposed dues.
    · When starting a pass, the insured will state that the pass is insured by CPI.
    · Suggest that persons joining the pass also join CPI.
    · Have all participants deliver priority mail via USPS or any private carrier via means to deliver in 2-3 days.
    · Have passers include delivery confirmation on the box.
    · All participants must individually number each cigar placed in the box.
    · All participants must post in the appropriate Cigar Pass thread, all put and takes.
    · If a passer includes a cigar or cigars intended only for the pass starter, these will be considered gifts. Gifts will only be insured for passers who are current CPI members.
    · Don’t not take advantage or cheat CPI.

    Responsibility of CPI:
    · Appoint a board of at least 3 people to guide CPI and render decisions.
    · Make public to those members insured: 1) The current roster of CPI insured passers; 2) The current list of cigars in custody by the treasurer; 3) Any claims made by CPI members and the status of that claim.
    · Handle and pay claims in the order they are received.
    · If a good record of give and takes is kept by the pass and there are insured passers in the pass it may be voted to supply the insured people with a sympathy replacement for there losses but the pass starter is the top priority since they have the most to lose.
    · If at a point in the future, CPI has an overrun of cigars, the board may present to the members of CPI a plan of action for a vote. This plan may include a raffle with proceeds going to a charity, the cost of running Cigar Pass, or the cost of running CPI; a donation to a Charity Herf; a Cigar Pass to increase the quality of cigars in the fund.
    · The board won’t deny any cigars being sent for dues; the board will suggest a change if the exact cigar is already held by CPI. This will insure a robust selection in the treasury.


    Emo
     
  2. Big Slim Junior

    Big Slim Junior New Member

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    I'd like to contribute a few sticks to the fund. Where should we send 'em? I think it's a good idea if no other other reason than as a gesture of good will. Thanks.
     
  3. Bat_Chief

    Bat_Chief Bat_Chief Returns

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    Not a bad plan Big Jim. In lieu of a cash payment as well as to be nice, we could PM Emo with what we have available to give and he could choose what the bank needs.....or not. Just "brain"storming here. :)

    I do remember a post alluding to the fact that the USPS would not insure cigars in the first place, but I never heard what the final conclusion to that was. ???
     
  4. vewyphishy

    vewyphishy The Original Smoking Fish

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    So... the way it works is no Postal Insuarance, but if something were to happen, you would be reimbursed with sticks from the CPI fund?

    Assume the following scenario:
    A pass with X number of sticks insured by CPI is lost in transit. CPI replaces those X sticks from the coffers. With dues only paid once, how will these X sticks get replaced back into the CPI coffers?
     
  5. Phil

    Phil New Member

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    That is a really good question phishy.


    So how does that work emo?




    Phil
     
  6. emodx

    emodx Banned

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    Seeing as there is no yearly fee, depending on how many cigars are paid out, we may not have to raise more "funds". Thare are quite a number of sticks in there. If for what ever reason CP'ers had a run of bad luck, I would have to ask for a 1 time donation of 1-2 sticks per person wishing to remain in CPI. I have donated sticks to CPI and will contine to do so. Plus with new memberships, CPI will continue to grow.
    Right now there are enough sticks to cover 2 large passes or 3 small-medium passes. I'll probably donate some more cigars here in another week or 2 after I go through and catalog all the cigars. BTW, almost all the cigars are over a year old, some being 2-3 years old. So if a claim was made, at least the person making the claim would get some seasoned smokes.

    Emo
     
  7. Triple_D

    Triple_D Triple_D

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    I am pretty sure you are right. Tobacco is considered a drug and only licensed dealers are supposed to be able to ship them. I know this for a fact with FedEx. Alcohol, tobacco, and firearms are no no's for us normal folks to be shipping. So we all take the risk when shipping that it is not discovered. I do it anyway as do all of you. That is why CPI is a great deal and much needed.
     
  8. LadyScarlet

    LadyScarlet New Member

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    I use UPS, FEDEX, and USPS, and have as of yesterday, stated cigars on shippers info, and value and got additional insurance. If cargo/transport insurance is sold on a receipt that shows the true commodity, whether regulated or not by DOT/IATA/USPS if sold, on B/l has to be honored if claim is made. :thumbs:
    The idea here is great tho...and should be used as a back up too... :D
     
  9. CoventryCat86

    CoventryCat86 Puppetmaster

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    From what I understand about postal insurance claims, they pretty much demand receipts for anything you're making a claim against. And since it's illegal to purchase Cuban cigars, supposedly any receipts don't exist ;) If they do exist, I would strongly discourage anyone turning over any receipts like that to the Postal Service which could find their way into the hands of the ATF or whoever.

    Cigar Pass Insurance is the way to go. Personally, I never use postal insurance when sending passes as it is a waste of money.
     
  10. Bobbyson1a

    Bobbyson1a New Member

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    emodx sign me up. LMK where to send the cigars. :)
     
  11. emodx

    emodx Banned

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    That is a great idea Batty. :thumbs:
     
  12. emodx

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    PM's sent to those who inquired.
     
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    removed inventory
     
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    Deleted to condense thread.
     
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    I want to say thank you on behalf of CP to Bobbyson1A for his very generous donation to CP. Hail Bobby!

    Emo
     
  16. texasaggie

    texasaggie Need a drink...

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    I'd like to contribute, I'm new, but very anxious to be a part of a pass. Thank you.
     
  17. emodx

    emodx Banned

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    Here is a list of active and inactive CPI members:

    Board
    EmoDx
    Shadow
    JoeM

    Members
    Paragod
    Gr8full2day
    Hbooker
    Vikder
    RobbMT
    Big Slim JR
    Tim Hampton
    Vern
    Rod
    Texcigar
    K.Steneson
    DaveWF
    Allofus123
    GilV
    DarrenR
    Macattack
    Bobbyson1a
    Geldor
    Tremayne
    CoventryCat
    CalixEros
    BigJake6904
     
  18. emodx

    emodx Banned

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    Cigar Pass Insurance Inventory

    ARISTOFF BELI
    ASHTON CAB BELI
    ASHTON CHURCHILL
    ASHTON VSG CORONA
    ASTRAL CHURCHILL
    AVO #2 MADURO
    AVO XO ROTHSCHILD
    BIG BUTT CHURCHILL
    BOLIVAR BELICOSO FINO (I)
    BOLIVAR ROYAL CORONA 01(I)
    BRAZILIA GOL
    BRAZILIA PIRANHA
    CAMACHO SLR
    CAMACHO JAMASTRAN TORO
    CAO ANNI MADURO CORONA
    CAO ANNI MADURO TUBO
    CAO ANNI EXTREME TORPEDO
    CARMELLO ROBUSTO
    CARMELLO ROBUSTO
    COHIBA EV
    COHIBA CHURCHILL
    CONNIE #30
    CUABA EXLUSIVOS(I)
    CUABA GENEROSAS(I)
    CUESTA REY CENTENARIO BELI
    CUPIDO CRIOLLO ROBUTO
    CUSANO COROJO
    DIAMOND CROWN PYRAMIDE #9
    DIPLOMATICOS #4 (I)
    DON THOMAS SPECIAL EDITION
    DUNHILL ALTAMIRAS TUBO
    ERDM ROBUSTO LARGA
    ERDM TORO
    FLOR DE ALLONES #5 ESPECIALES
    FLOR DE ALLONES #5 ESPECIALES
    FLOR DE ALLONES #5 ESPECIALES
    FONSECA MIT ZEDER
    FUENTE 858M
    FUENTE DOUBLE CHATEAU FUENTE
    FUENTE ROTHSCHILD
    GURKHA EXPEDITION TORO
    GURKHA LEGEND PERFECTO
    GURKHA LEGEND PERFECTO
    GURKHA PERFECTO
    HAVANA CLASSICO TORO
    HDM (OLD OLD OLD)
    HDM DARK SUMATRA TORO
    HDM EXCALIBER
    HDM ROTHSCHILD
    H UPMANN ROBUSTO
    H UPMANN 2000 BELI
    H UPMANN 2000 CEDAR
    HEMI BEST SELLER
    HEMI SS
    HEMI SS
    HEMI SS
    HEMI SS
    HEMI SIGNATURE
    HEMI SIGNATURE
    HENDRIK KELNER SECOND CHURCHILL
    HUGO CASSAR DIAMOND CHURCHILL
    H UPMANN GRANDE MADURO
    INDIAN TABAC NATURAL FUERTE TORO
    JOSE MARTI CHURCHILL TUBOS
    JR ALT
    JUAN LOPEZ PC(I)
    LA AURORA MADURO ROBUSTO
    LA ESCEPCION III ZAVALLA
    LA ESTRELLA CUBANA
    LA FINCA TORO
    LA FLOR DOMINICANA DL 660
    LA GRLORIA CUBANA NATURAL
    LA GLORIA CUBANA SERIE R TORO
    LA VIEJA HABANA CEDAR
    LEON JIMINEZ CHURCHILL
    LONE WOLD CHURCHILL
    LONE WOLF CHURCHILL
    MACANUDO POTOFINO TUBO
    MARIA MANCINI DEGAULLE
    MONTESINO BELI 2002
    MONTESINO SUPER BELI
    MONTESINO SUPER BELI
    MONTE #2
    MONTE #444
    MONTE JOYITA (I)
    MONTE #5 (I)
    MONTE #5 (I)
    OLIVA FLOR DE OLIVA
    OLIVA GRAND CAMEROON BELI
    OLIVA O BLACK PYRAMIDE
    OLIA O CLASSIC TORO
    OLIVEROS BELI
    ONYX MINI BELI
    PADRON 2000
    PADRON 2000 MADURO
    PARTAGAS BLACK ROBUSTO
    PARTAGAS BLACK ROBUSTO
    PARTAGAS CIFUENTES SEPTIEMBRE
    PARTAGAS CORONA
    PARTAGAS PERFECTO
    PARTAGAS PERFECTO
    PARTAGAS TPC 98(I)
    PARTAGAS 898V 98(I)
    PERDOMO CUBAN PAREJO EPICURE MADURO
    PERDOMO ESV CORONA NAT
    PERDOMO LA TRADICION RED LABEL
    PERDOMO LA TRADICION RED LABEL #4
    PERDOMO LA TRADICION EXCLUSIVO
    PERDOMO LA TRADICION EXCLUSIV
    PERDOMO LA TRADICION CHAMPAGNE EPICURE
    PERDOMO THE CIGAR BELI
    PUROS INDIOS TORO
    PUNCH RARE COROJO CORONA
    PUNCH CHURCHILL (I)
    PUNCH PUNCH (I)
    RASS 09/04 (I)
    ROMEO Y JULIETA CORONA (I)
    ROMEO JULIETA GRAND BELI
    ROMEO JULIETA CEDROS #2
    ROMEO JULIETA ROTHSCHILD
    RP DECADE CORONA
    QUAY DORSAY CGRAN CORONA (I)
    SANCHO PANZA DOUBLE MADURO CORONA
    SANCHO PANZA DOUBLE MADURO ROTHSCHILD
    SAN CRISTOBAL LA PUNTA (I)
    SLR PC (I)
    SLR SERIE A (I)
    SOSA BELI
    TEAMO VINTAGE 98 ROBUSTO
    TEMPLE HALL CORONA
    THOMAS HINDS VINTAGE ROTHSCHILD
    THOMAS HINDS VINTAGE ROTHSCHILD
    TORANO SIG CORONA GORDA
    TORANO GOLD PYRAMIDE
    TORANO GOLD TORO
    TORANO SILVER ROBUSTO
    TORANO SILVER TRUMPET
    TRILOGY COROJO
    TRINIDAD TTT TORO
    VEGAS ROBAINA FAMILIAR OCT 01(I)
    VEGAS ROBAINA FAMOSAS(I)
    VICTOR SINCLAIR SERIES 55 COROJO
    601 PYRAMIDE
    601 CHURCHILL
     
  19. emodx

    emodx Banned

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    Today I added from my own stash:
    1 Mayorga Lonsdale size
    2 Padron Fumas
    3 CAO Brazilia Pirhana

    On 12JUN04 added CPI dues from new member:
    AVO # Maduro
    CAO Anni Maduro Tubo
    Torano Gold Toro
    Gurkha Expedition Toro
    La Aurora Maduro Robusto

    So we're up around 115 cigars. If anyone has any questions, shoot me a PM. :thumbs:

    Emo
     
  20. Treamayne

    Treamayne On the run...

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    I can get hold of some Vegas Robaina Famosas, Cuaba Espledidos(sp?) and Cohiba Siglo I, IV and Robusto? What is best for the CPI Buy-in?
     

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