Raising your own tobacco.

Discussion in 'General Cigar Discussion' started by MrMaduro, Feb 20, 2009.


  1. MrMaduro

    MrMaduro New Member

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    Here is some info for those who want to grow their own tobacco.

    1. Start your seeds indoors or in a green house 6-8 weeks before the last frost in your region. I use float trays, which are compartmentalized styrofoam trays that float in a bed of water. You can also use the seed starter trays available from most home and garden centers. I use a mixture of quality top soil and potting soil (50/50 mix), fill your trays and lightly pack the soil, and dampen with water. Then sow 2-4 seeds into each compartment. This can be hard to do, a little trick I use to make this easier is I take a business card or some type of rigid paper and crease it down the middle. Place some seeds on the paper, using a knife scrape the seeds onto the trays.
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    Leave the seeds on top of the soil. DO NOT cover with soil, the seeds need light to germinate.

    2. After the seeds begin to grow once a week when you water them (keep the soil moist as the plants will dry out very quickly and die) using Miracle Grow or some type of plant fertilizer. If you can find it Miracle Grow for tomato plants is the best. Tobacco and tomato are from the same family Night Shade.Once they are about an inch tall, using tweezers remove the extra seedlings in each compartment, leaving only one plant per compartment. When the plants reach 6-8 inches tall, and if the danger of frost is over they are ready to transplant outside. They can handle quite a bit of sun light. I plant mine where they recieve direct sun light all day long with no issues of being sun burned. This is a pic of one of my float trays from last years crop. This tray has 55 individual compartments. the seedlings are 3-4 inches tall.
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    3. When transplanting outside Make sure to water them well as you plant them outside. If you choose to grow them in pots use large planters, or 5 gallon buckets work well also. You need a pot at least 14 inches in diameter or larger, to keep the plants from falling over when they get bigger. Some of the plants can reach 6 feet or taller. As they grow I feed them once a week with some type of plant fertilizer. One thing to consider if you plant these in your garden do not put them close to your tomatos. the nicotine from the plants will kill your tomato plants!!!! This pic is a short section of 2 rows about 2 weeks after transplanting, each row I had last year 80 plants.
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    4. The bugs shouldn't become a problem until after they start to bloom. Now is when you have to make a choice. First option, if you leave the blooms on the plant you will have taller plants with more leaves, 30 or more but smaller leaves. Second option, break off the blooms, (this is called topping) you will have shorter plants with fewer leaves 20-26 but the leaves will be quite a bit bigger. I had some leaves last year close to 3 feet long. These pics are of the blooms and one of the leaves at 6 weeks or so.

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    4. After the plants bloom they will become sticky and really start to smell good. This is when the insects will come calling. I use a mixture of finely ground tobacco 1 tablespoon, 1 tablespoon finely ground black pepper, 1 teaspoon dish washing detergent in 1 gallon of water. Spray the plants once a week, or after each rain. This will keep the bugs away. DO NOT use any type of systemic pesticide as it will be absorbed into the tobacco, then you if you smoke or chew it later!!!!!

    5. Next thing is small leaves (suckers) will start to grow at the base of each leaf where it joins the stalk. These must be removed. We call this suckering the plant. If these are allowed to grow they will rob the main leaves of their nutrients, and won't grow as large. Here is a pic of a sucker.

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    6. Now 2-4 weeks after the plants have bloomed you can start harvesting. This can be done by priming the plant a few leaves at a time as they ripen, or you can cut the whole plant. If you prime you can thread a string through the base of the leaf, or tie each leaf to hang and cure. If you cut the whole plant you can hang it to cure then strip the leaves later, My prefered method. Here is a pic of a wooden tobacco stick with 5 tobacco stalks speared, it weighs close to 80 pounds.

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    7. Hang your tobacco in a well ventillated barn, shed, or garage to cure. This will take 6 weeks or more depending on the temperature, humidity, and air movement. It's considered cured when it has a nice brown color. Be careful when handling cured tobacco as it will be very dry and brittle. You can bring it into case (make it pliable and easy to handle) by misting it with water or waiting for a couple of rainy days. It will absorb the moisture and be safe to handle. This is a pic of some hanging in the barn.

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    8. Now it's ready to ferment, I'll cover this later, I'm still learning. I don't want to post any misdirections.

    Good luck, and feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

    Brian,

    Rod, would you pin this so that everyone can have easy access to this information?
     
  2. masterp0606

    masterp0606 New Member

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    Nice information Mr.Maduro. I live on 40 acres so growing some tobacco would be pretty nice as long as my soil would permit me.
     
  3. stlboarder

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    Great information... thanks for sharing.
     
  4. CRQuarto

    CRQuarto Brrraaaiiinnnsss.....

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    Great info, this is going to be fun :) Rob, this would be a great sticky!
     
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    Now I know you give a formula for keeping the aphids off, but what happens if you don't do anything? Are they a destructive bug?
    Chris
     
  6. MrMaduro

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    Chris,
    The aphids themselves don't do much damage, However there are several other leaf eaters that will eat holes in your prized crop that you worked so hard to raise. I'll have some tobacco powder later for anyone who wants some. Oh yea I almost forgot for all you bass fishermen there are also tobacco worms that eat the leaves as well, more toward the end of the growing season. Put these on a hook, they drive the bass nuts.
     
  7. PhatCat

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    This is gonna be cool.

    :thumbs:
     
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    Thank you, thank you, thank you.
     
  9. uptown_isy

    uptown_isy The Man Uptown

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    What an incerdible informational thread. Gotta hand it to you MrMaduro! Thank you and very nice looking crop!
     
  10. Sunshine86

    Sunshine86 Nicaraguan Whore

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    Interesting. I don't have the time or space to do any of my own growing/processing but any insight into what goes into cigar production is always cool.
     
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    got mine in the mail today thanks so much!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Great information! Thanks for posting!
     
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    in2xshp Banned

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    This is awesome info you shared with us, thanks. Now I am even more excited to get started, i'm going to have to hit Lowes later and pick up some stuff to get started.
     
  14. bfreebern

    bfreebern Yada, Yada, Yada.

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    Got mine today as well, damn those are tiny.

    Thanks for the info, much appreciated!
     
  15. sack

    sack 'From man's sweat and God's love, beer came to be.

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    Got the seeds today, thanks for sending them out, i'll get started as soon as i can in the house and transfer out when it gets warm. Of course i'm talking spring. I'm pumped! :thumbs:
     
  16. MrMaduro

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    Thanks for the compliments friends! If anyone else wants to try this I've still got seeds available. Just shoot me a pm.
     
  17. Jimmyhaze

    Jimmyhaze Maduro Maniac

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    Really cool pictures. Beautiful plants. I remember some ethnobotanics growing tobacco, what kind of seeds are you using? Nicotiana glauca (Tree Tobacco) Seeds and Nicotiana Rustica (Sacred Tobacco) Seeds are the ones used by the ethnobotanics. I heard the Rusticas are super potent.
     
  18. MrMaduro

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    I use cigar tobacco varieties. I believe that the tree tobacco is unsmokable. Not really sure about the sacred tobacco. I've raised burley (cigarette) tobacco since I was a little boy. This will be my third year to raise cigar tobacco for personal use.
     
  19. Rod

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    Excellent article! Just pinned it. Thanks for such a great contribution.
     
  20. PhatCat

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    Got my seeds in the mail yesterday.

    Again, thanks for going to the trouble to send all these out to folks. Really nice gesture on your part. I'll try to do my part and get something to grow. I have space in an old corn crib to hang the leaves so if I can get a harvest...

    BR
     

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