WELCOME TO THE GETTING YOUR FEET PASS WET #4! We will be learning about rarity, HTF's, pass etiquette, equal puts and takes, and quite a few other things that pop up during the course of a regular pass. This is a learning pass so I expect all questions and everyone's puts and takes to be posted in this thread and not pm'ed directly to Gary (ironpeddler) or myself. I'm not trying to embarrass anyone by making their question public or by leaving their P/T's out for scrutiny....one man's question may answer the same question that 5 others have. Our main goal is to learn how to successfully take a pass, come up with proper values, inventory it, inspect it, package it, and to have fun while doing it. Hopefully one of the main components of this pass is you come away with a few new friends. This is something that's needed to be done for a while, so jump in! I would expect this to get off the ground sometime in late August or early September at the absolute latest when my other pass is finished. I'm pretty good at running passes, so you'll be able to say you have one under your belt where you learned to pass the correct way. This will be a fun, knowledgeable, and entertaining pass with a few contests in it. I am limiting this pass to 15 participants so jump in now while there are spots open! Gary (ironpeddler) will co-host this pass with me so he can learn to run one even though he's been in many. I expect you to respect when he and I offer advice because it will be just that, advice, not criticism.. INITIAL RULES: 1) This must either your first or second pass here on Cigar Pass. If you're really new though, I want to see activity from you between now and the start or I will replace you. 2) We will use 3 sources for pricing and everyone must use the same three so everyone is on the same page with their pricing. 3) When I put out the pass list I will assign each of you 2 cigars to research and come up with the prices for them. 4) When doing your P/T's you must show your pricing from the three vendors using the example I gave below. All of the cigars on the initial iist will have a price next to it so you'll only have to research and do the math for your puts. 5) You must make at LEAST 4 trades. The more trades, the more you learn. Also, At least 4 trades defrays the shipping costs a little. 6) I will require you to follow the whole pass whether you are first in line or last. That's the only true way to learn. 7) Absolutely no ISOM's in this pass. I don't want to wonder where they came from. I may do a general Newbie ISOM Pass later in the year. 8) Unless there is a handoff/HERF with another passer(s), the turnaround should be no more then two days. I understand life gets in the way at times, so if you feel there may be a slight delay, pm Gary, myself, and the passer following you Out 3 sources are : http://www.smokeinn.com/ http://www.holts.com/home.html http://www.cigarsinternational.com/ http://www.seriouscigars.com/ (to be used only if a price can't be found in one of the above 3) http://www.famous-smoke.com/ (to be used only if a price can't be found in one of the above 3) When looking up a price, say it's for a My Father Le Bijou 1922 Petite Robusto, Get a BOX price from each of the three vendors and divide by the number of cigars in the box. When you've done that for all three, you divide the single prices by three and that's the value that will be used. Example: Holt's box $143.95/23 cigars per box = single price of $6.26 Smoke Inn $142.95/23 cigars per box = single price of $6.22 CI box $144.50/23 cigars per box = single price of $6.28 Add the 3 single prices together and divide by 3 and we have a set value of $6.25 for a My Father Le Bijou Petite Robusto. Simple as that! Any cigar worth less than $10 will be allowed a +/- 5% difference in value. Anything between $10 and $20 will be allowed a +/- of 7.5% on a trade. What I don't want is all your puts to be under. Remember, we're trying to get as close as we can regardless of them being within the parameters that I've set. PARTICIPANTS IN ORDER 1) IRONPEDDLER 2) Slick300 3) ncast2523 4) whylieineedacigar 5) vortex Big Bear (OUT) Bu11dog (OUT) jvel79 (OUT) 6) llwydty 7) Pugman1943 (PUNKED OUT) 8) MTovarez 9) kxthor1901 10) CParker 13) theronray King Beefy (OUT) 14) fjldo 15) Capt J 16) Jonesy Back to Ironpeddler We're Officially Done...great job gentlemen! CIGAR LIST: 1) HEX Figurado by Sindicato Cigars $6.52 2) WOAM T-ncast2523 3) Tatuaje Classic Petite Reserva 4) Padron Anniversary Monarcha maduro T-Slick300 5) Illusione Rothchildes T-llwydtp 6) MUWAT Kentucky Fire Cured Chunky 7) Ortega Series D #12 maduro T-theronray 8) Ortega Series D #12 natural T-CaptJ 9) Nica Rustica El Brujito T-CParker 10) La Riqueza #4 11) La Aroma de Cuba Mi Amore Belicoso T-theronray 12) Arturo Fuente Flor Fina 8-5-8 Maduro 13) Casa Magna Churchill 14) My Uzi Weighs a Ton Churchill (Drew Estates) T-CaptJ 15) Liga Privada #9 Oscuro Y-vortex 16) La Palina El Dario Kill Bill T-theronray 17) Cabaguan Guapos T-whylieineedacigar 18) Viaje Double Edged Sword T-ncast2523 19) Liga Privada #9 Belicoso T-CParkerSons of Anarchy by Black Crown Prospect 20) Tatuaje 10 Miami T-ironpeddler 21) Alec Bradley Connecticut Robusto T-vortex 22) Arturo Fuente Flor Fina 8-5-8 Sun Grown T-ironpeddler 23) La Riqueza Belicoso T-CParker 24) La Juegeda Prieto Belicoso T-Slick300 25) Illusione ~2~ T-Slick300 26) My Father #2 Belicoso T-CaptJ 27) Oliva Series V Belicoso T-ironpeddler 28) Don Pepin Garcia Original Invictos T-ironpeddler 29) Alec Bradley Black Market Hooligan 30) Headley Grange Dobles T-vortex 31) La Palina 50 Maduro T-whylieineedacigar 32) Ortega Series D #8 Natural 33) Tatuaje Black Lancero T-whylieineedacigar 34) Tatuaje TAA 2012 T-ncast2523 35) Arturo Fuente Hemingway Signature Maduro T-whylieineedacigar 36) Arturo Fuente Work of Art Maduro T-MTovarez 37) Casa Magna Robusto P-ironpeddler T-ncast2523 38) Arturo Fuente Queen B P-ironpeddler T-whylieineedacigar 39) Arturo Fuente King B P-ironpeddler T-llwydtp 40) LFD Capitulo II P-ironpeddler T-Slick300 41) Rocky Patel HR500 P-Slick300 42) LG Diez (Lusitano) P-Slick300 T-Kxthor911 43) Leccia Black (XO) P-Slick300 44) Kristoff Maduro Ligero (churchill) P-Slick300 T-llwydtp 45) Herrera Esteli Norteno Toro Especial P-ncast2523 T-vortex 46) Jamie Garcia Reserva Especial Toro P-ncast2523 T-fjldo 47) La Flor Dominicana Double Ligero Chisel P-ncast2523 48) AF Opus X Angel's Share RdC P-ncast2523 T-Kxthor911 49) Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda P-whylieineedacigar T-Kxthor911 50) Crowned Heads Las Calaveras 550 P-whylieineedacigar T-vortex 51) Padron Ambassador Maduro P-whylieineedacigar T-fjldo 52) Herrera Esteli Piramide P-whylieineedacigar T-Kxthor911 53) Room 101 San Andres 808 P-whylieineedacigar T-CParker 54) Padron 26 #6 Maduro P-vortex T-Kxthor911 55) Oliva V Melanio Maduro Torpedo P-vortex 56) Tatuaje 7th Reserva P-vortex T-MTovarez 57) Oliva V Melanio Maduro Robusto P-vortex 58) Don Pepin Garcia Cuban Classic Robusto P-vortex 59) La Aroma de Cuba Edition Especial #1 P-vortex T-MTovarez 60) Don Pepin Blue Fundadores (Lanceros) P-llwydtp T-Kxthor911 61) El Rey Del Mundo Robusto Suprema P-llwydtp 62) Don Pepin Garcia Series JJ Sublime P-llwydtp 63) El Centurion Toro P-llwydtp MISSING 64) Oliva V Double Robusto P- MTovarez 65) Oliva V Churchill Extra P- MTovarez 66) Camacho Triple Maduro Robusto 5'x50 P- MTovarez 67) Viaje Double Edge Sword 2 P-Kxthor911 T-CParker 68) Viaje Antidote P- Kxthor911 T-theronray 69) Paul Garmirian Symphony 20 Bombones Extra P-Kxthor911 T-CParker 70) Viaje Super Lance P-Kxthor911 T-theronray 71) Paul Garmirian Symphony 20 Short Robusto P-Kxthor911 72) Illusione Ultra #1 P- Kxthor911 T-fjldo 73) Cain Daytona 654T P-CParker 74) Illusione Holy Lance P-CParker T-theronray 75) JD Howard Reserve HR46 P-CParker 76) Cuvee 151 Robusto Maduro P-CParker 77) Davidoff Nicaragua Diadema P-CParker 78) Warped La Colmena #44 P-CParker 79) Oliva Series O Robusto Maduro P-theronray 80) Don Pepin Blue Exclusivo P-theronray 81) Cabaiguan Imperiales P-theronray T-fjldo 82) My Father lancero #4 P-theronray 83) Arturo Fuente Anejo Reserva #46 P-theronray 84) Headley Grange Corona Gorda P-theronray 85) Asylum Toro P-fjldo 86) Illusione hl Lancero P-fjldo 87) Tatuaje Regios Reserva P-fjldo 88) Liga Privada T-52 Toro P-fjldo 89) Arturo Fuente Don Carlos #2 P-fjldo 90) Tatuaje 10th Anniversary Bell Encre Reserva P-CaptJ 91) La Palina Classic Robusto P-CaptJ 92) Ashston VSG Robusto P-CaptJ We're DONE! DISCLAIMER: This cigar list may change a time or two over the next little bit. Once we are full, it will be set with no further changes. Pass Thread Be sure you check frequently to make sure when you are due up. Make sure you're ready for the pass and let me know if you need to be shifted. To make things go a little smoother, it is recommended that you check the list and post your P/T prior to receiving the pass. This will give you a head start towards getting that box back out the door. ALL P/T's WILL BE POSTED ON THE THREAD. NO PM's because you and the others can't learn if you run them through Gary or myself first. Pass Arrival Upon opening the pass, inventory all contents and inspect all of the cigars. The last thing you want is to be blamed for a damaged cigar because you didn't inspect thoroughly. Do not take the cigars out of their baggies! Make sure each cigar that is listed on the sheet, is in the pass box. Always double check against what I have here on this main page also. Packaging is of utmost importance. You want to make sure that once you put the cigars into the container, there is no movement. Also, after you've put the container back in the box and the packaging materials around the container, give it a slight shake to make sure there is no movement from inside the main pass box. There will be a folder inside with the cigar list and everyone's info. If the carrier decides to play football with the box and it looks like it needs to be replaced and you can replace it, please do so. Shipping Now you're ready to ship. Post on the board ensuring the next on the list is ready. Inside the same folder as before you will find a sheet of paper with everyones address. Shoot a PM his way and verify the address you have and that he's ready to receive it. Next, ensure that all cigars are in their own individual baggies and in its proper gallon bag. Make sure the container is humidified properly and close the box up. After closing, make sure there is no movement inside the box. I will supply single cigar baggies, a few gallon bags, 2 pens, a humidifier, a hygrometer, and a sharpie. Make sure these things are in the pass when shipped.