Getting Your Feet Wet Pass #4

Discussion in 'Completed Cigar Passes' started by Jonesy, Apr 10, 2014.

  1. Jonesy

    Jonesy Got Ink ?

    Mar 17, 2007
                                      WELCOME TO THE GETTING YOUR FEET PASS WET #4!
    We will be learning about rarity, HTF's, pass etiquette, equal puts and takes, and quite a few other things that pop up during the course of a regular pass. This is a learning pass so I expect all questions and everyone's puts and takes to be posted in this thread and not pm'ed directly to Gary (ironpeddler) or myself. I'm not trying to embarrass anyone by making their question public or by leaving their P/T's out for man's question may answer the same question that 5 others have. Our main goal is to learn how to successfully take a pass, come up with proper values, inventory it, inspect it, package it, and to have fun while doing it. Hopefully one of the main components of this pass is you come away with a few new friends. This is something that's needed to be done for a while, so jump in! I would expect this to get off the ground sometime in late August or early September at the absolute latest when my other pass is finished. I'm pretty good at running passes, so you'll be able to say you have one under your belt where you learned to pass the correct way. This will be a fun, knowledgeable, and entertaining pass with a few contests in it. I am limiting this pass to 15 participants so jump in now while there are spots open!
    Gary (ironpeddler) will co-host this pass with me so he can learn to run one even though he's been in many. I expect you to respect when he and I offer advice because it will be just that, advice, not criticism..
                                                               INITIAL RULES:
    1) This must either your first or second pass here on Cigar Pass. If you're really new though, I want to see activity from you between now and the start or I will replace you.
    2) We will use 3 sources for pricing and everyone must use the same three so everyone is on the same page with their pricing. 
    3) When I put out the pass list I will assign each of you 2 cigars to research and come up with the prices for them.
    4) When doing your P/T's you must show your pricing from the three vendors using the example I gave below. All of the cigars on the initial iist will have a price next to it so you'll only have to research and do the math for your puts.
    5) You must make at LEAST 4 trades. The more trades, the more you learn. Also, At least 4 trades defrays the shipping costs a little.
    6) I will require you to follow the whole pass whether you are first in line or last. That's the only true way to learn.
    7) Absolutely no ISOM's in this pass. I don't want to wonder where they came from. I may do a general Newbie ISOM Pass later in the year.
    8) Unless there is a handoff/HERF with another passer(s), the turnaround should be no more then two days. I understand life gets in the way at times, so if you feel there may be a slight delay, pm Gary, myself, and the passer following you
    Out 3 sources are :

   (to be used only if a price can't be found in one of the above 3)
  (to be used only if a price can't be found in one of the above 3)
    When looking up a price, say it's for a My Father Le Bijou 1922 Petite Robusto, Get a BOX price from each of the three vendors and divide by the number of cigars in the box. When you've done that for all three, you divide the single prices by three and that's the value that will be used.
    Holt's box $143.95/23 cigars per box = single price of $6.26
    Smoke Inn $142.95/23 cigars per box = single price of $6.22
    CI box $144.50/23 cigars per box = single price of $6.28
    Add the 3 single prices together and divide by 3 and we have a set value of $6.25 for a My Father Le Bijou Petite Robusto.
    Simple as that! 
    Any cigar worth less than $10 will be allowed a +/- 5% difference in value. Anything between $10 and $20 will be allowed a +/- of 7.5% on a trade. What I don't want is all your puts to be under. Remember, we're trying to get as close as we can regardless of them being within the parameters that I've set.
    2) Slick300
    3) ncast2523
    4) whylieineedacigar
    5) vortex
    Big Bear (OUT)
    Bu11dog (OUT)
    jvel79 (OUT) 
    6) llwydty
    7) Pugman1943 (PUNKED OUT) 
    8) MTovarez
    9) kxthor1901
    10) CParker
    13) theronray
    King Beefy (OUT)
    14) fjldo
    15) Capt J
    16) Jonesy Back to Ironpeddler
    We're Officially Done...great job gentlemen!
    1)    HEX Figurado by Sindicato Cigars   $6.52
    2)    WOAM T-ncast2523
    3)    Tatuaje Classic Petite Reserva
    4)    Padron Anniversary Monarcha maduro T-Slick300
    5)    Illusione Rothchildes T-llwydtp
    6)    MUWAT Kentucky Fire Cured Chunky
    7)    Ortega Series D #12 maduro T-theronray
    8)    Ortega Series D #12 natural T-CaptJ
    9)    Nica Rustica El Brujito T-CParker
    10)  La Riqueza #4
    11)  La Aroma de Cuba Mi Amore Belicoso T-theronray
    12)  Arturo Fuente Flor Fina 8-5-8 Maduro
    13)  Casa Magna Churchill
    14)  My Uzi Weighs a Ton Churchill (Drew Estates) T-CaptJ
    15)  Liga Privada #9 Oscuro Y-vortex
    16)  La Palina El Dario Kill Bill T-theronray
    17)  Cabaguan Guapos T-whylieineedacigar
    18)  Viaje Double Edged Sword  T-ncast2523
    19)  Liga Privada #9 Belicoso T-CParkerSons of Anarchy by Black Crown Prospect
    20)  Tatuaje 10 Miami  T-ironpeddler
    21) Alec Bradley Connecticut Robusto T-vortex
    22) Arturo Fuente Flor Fina 8-5-8 Sun Grown  T-ironpeddler
    23) La Riqueza Belicoso T-CParker
    24) La Juegeda Prieto Belicoso T-Slick300
    25) Illusione ~2~  T-Slick300
    26) My Father #2 Belicoso T-CaptJ
    27) Oliva Series V Belicoso T-ironpeddler
    28) Don Pepin Garcia Original Invictos T-ironpeddler
    29) Alec Bradley Black Market Hooligan
    30) Headley Grange Dobles T-vortex
    31) La Palina 50 Maduro T-whylieineedacigar
    32) Ortega Series D #8 Natural
    33) Tatuaje Black Lancero T-whylieineedacigar
    34) Tatuaje TAA 2012  T-ncast2523
    35) Arturo Fuente Hemingway Signature Maduro T-whylieineedacigar
    36) Arturo Fuente Work of Art Maduro T-MTovarez
    37) Casa Magna Robusto P-ironpeddler T-ncast2523
    38) Arturo Fuente Queen B P-ironpeddler T-whylieineedacigar
    39) Arturo Fuente King B P-ironpeddler T-llwydtp
    40) LFD Capitulo II P-ironpeddler T-Slick300
    41) Rocky Patel HR500 P-Slick300
    42) LG Diez (Lusitano) P-Slick300 T-Kxthor911
    43) Leccia Black (XO) P-Slick300
    44) Kristoff Maduro Ligero (churchill) P-Slick300 T-llwydtp
    45) Herrera Esteli Norteno Toro Especial P-ncast2523 T-vortex
    46) Jamie Garcia Reserva Especial Toro P-ncast2523 T-fjldo
    47) La Flor Dominicana Double Ligero Chisel P-ncast2523
    48) AF Opus X Angel's Share RdC P-ncast2523 T-Kxthor911
    49) Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda P-whylieineedacigar T-Kxthor911
    50) Crowned Heads Las Calaveras 550 P-whylieineedacigar T-vortex
    51) Padron Ambassador Maduro P-whylieineedacigar T-fjldo
    52) Herrera Esteli Piramide P-whylieineedacigar T-Kxthor911
    53) Room 101 San Andres 808 P-whylieineedacigar T-CParker
    54) Padron 26 #6 Maduro P-vortex T-Kxthor911
    55) Oliva V Melanio Maduro Torpedo P-vortex
    56) Tatuaje 7th Reserva P-vortex T-MTovarez
    57) Oliva V Melanio Maduro Robusto P-vortex
    58) Don Pepin Garcia Cuban Classic Robusto P-vortex
    59) La Aroma de Cuba Edition Especial #1 P-vortex T-MTovarez
    60) Don Pepin Blue Fundadores (Lanceros) P-llwydtp T-Kxthor911
    61) El Rey Del Mundo Robusto Suprema P-llwydtp
    62) Don Pepin Garcia Series JJ Sublime P-llwydtp
    63) El Centurion Toro P-llwydtp MISSING
    64) Oliva V Double Robusto P- MTovarez
    65) Oliva V Churchill Extra P- MTovarez
    66) Camacho Triple Maduro Robusto 5'x50 P- MTovarez
    67) Viaje Double Edge Sword 2 P-Kxthor911 T-CParker
    68) Viaje Antidote P- Kxthor911 T-theronray
    69) Paul Garmirian Symphony 20 Bombones Extra P-Kxthor911 T-CParker
    70) Viaje Super Lance P-Kxthor911 T-theronray
    71) Paul Garmirian Symphony 20 Short Robusto P-Kxthor911
    72) Illusione Ultra #1 P- Kxthor911 T-fjldo
    73) Cain Daytona 654T P-CParker
    74) Illusione Holy Lance P-CParker T-theronray
    75) JD Howard Reserve HR46 P-CParker
    76) Cuvee 151 Robusto Maduro P-CParker
    77) Davidoff Nicaragua Diadema P-CParker
    78) Warped La Colmena #44 P-CParker
    79) Oliva Series O Robusto Maduro P-theronray
    80) Don Pepin Blue Exclusivo P-theronray
    81) Cabaiguan Imperiales P-theronray T-fjldo
    82) My Father lancero #4 P-theronray
    83) Arturo Fuente Anejo Reserva #46  P-theronray
    84) Headley Grange Corona Gorda P-theronray
    85) Asylum Toro P-fjldo
    86) Illusione hl Lancero P-fjldo
    87) Tatuaje Regios Reserva P-fjldo
    88) Liga Privada T-52 Toro P-fjldo
    89) Arturo Fuente Don Carlos #2 P-fjldo
    90) Tatuaje 10th Anniversary Bell Encre Reserva P-CaptJ
    91) La Palina Classic Robusto P-CaptJ
    92) Ashston VSG Robusto P-CaptJ
    We're DONE!
    DISCLAIMER:  This cigar list may change a time or two over the next little bit. Once we are full, it will be set with no further changes.

    Pass Thread
    Be sure you check frequently to make sure when you are due up. Make sure you're ready for the pass and let me know if you need to be shifted. To make things go a little smoother, it is recommended that you check the list and post your P/T prior to receiving the pass. This will give you a head start towards getting that box back out the door. ALL P/T's WILL BE POSTED ON THE THREAD. NO PM's because you and the others can't learn if you run them through Gary or myself first.

    Pass Arrival
    Upon opening the pass, inventory all contents and inspect all of the cigars. The last thing you want is to be blamed for a damaged cigar because you didn't inspect thoroughly. Do not take the cigars out of their baggies! Make sure each cigar that is listed on the sheet, is in the pass box. Always double check against what I have here on this main page also. Packaging is of utmost importance. You want to make sure that once you put the cigars into the container, there is no movement. Also, after you've put the container back in the box and the packaging materials around the container, give it a slight shake to make sure there is no movement from inside the main pass box. There will be a folder inside with the cigar list and everyone's info. If the carrier decides to play football with the box and it looks like it needs to be replaced and you can replace it, please do so.


    Now you're ready to ship. Post on the board ensuring the next on the list is ready. Inside the same folder as before you will find a sheet of paper with everyones address. Shoot a PM his way and verify the address you have and that he's ready to receive it.
    Next, ensure that all cigars are in their own individual baggies and in its proper gallon bag. Make sure the container is humidified properly and close the box up. After closing, make sure there is no movement inside the box.

    I will supply single cigar baggies, a few gallon bags, 2 pens, a humidifier, a hygrometer, and a sharpie. Make sure these things are in the pass when shipped.
  2. mmburtch

    mmburtch Sleep deprived and cranky

    Oct 11, 2006
    Denver, Colorado
    Did I win?
  3. MTovarez

    MTovarez Michael

    Mar 3, 2008
    Houston, TX
    I'm in!
  4. Kingantz

    Kingantz Growing too fast.

    Oct 6, 2007
    Hartsville, SC
    BOLIS!!  Oh wait...I got confused. 
  5. BigJake6904

    BigJake6904 Fat Texan

    Dec 31, 2007
    Richmond, TX
    Way to go Brian. I was thinking of doing one again but you saved me the trouble. :thumbs:
  6. Jonesy

    Jonesy Got Ink ?

    Mar 17, 2007
    No interest in this other than MTovares yet, that's a little disappointing.
  7. mmburtch

    mmburtch Sleep deprived and cranky

    Oct 11, 2006
    Denver, Colorado
    Maybe it's your cologne 
  8. whopper

    whopper Active Member

    May 21, 2008
    Too many rules. :0
  9. CMontoya79

    CMontoya79 Newb Le professional!

    Dec 8, 2008
    NEWBS get in on this!!!

    Also just a friendly suggestion... Maybe the 4 stick minimum is a bit tough for some newbs? Could be intimidating.

  10. MTovarez

    MTovarez Michael

    Mar 3, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Sorry guys but I'm going to back out of this one. Thankfully the start date isn't for months in the future, so it shouldn't affect anything.
    To everyone who joins - enjoy! :D
  11. Tall Paul

    Tall Paul "insecure little bitch"

    May 11, 2011
    Derry, NH
    Back to 0... Yikes I'm shocked this isn't filling up!
  12. Jonesy

    Jonesy Got Ink ?

    Mar 17, 2007
     I appreciate your suggestion, but with this being a newbie pass the stick value will be $5-$10 a piece. I don't want to see the guys end up paying as much in postage as if they only made 3 $5-$6 dollar trades.
  13. whylieineedacigar

    whylieineedacigar Yolalatlpwry

    Dec 2, 2013
    New York
    I must have misread the rules the first time around and thought that only people that have never been in a pass could join, now I see that this could also be your second pass so I'm in!
  14. Jonesy

    Jonesy Got Ink ?

    Mar 17, 2007
    I've re done a few of the rules to open it up a little more. Some of you guys have been in a pass before, but had to learn on the fly because it was your first, but wasn't a learning pass.
    Glad to have you!
  15. whylieineedacigar

    whylieineedacigar Yolalatlpwry

    Dec 2, 2013
    New York
  16. Jonesy

    Jonesy Got Ink ?

    Mar 17, 2007
    Bill, you know if there's ever going to be a pass with too many rules, it's gonna be a newbie pass!
  17. fjldo

    fjldo Member

    Oct 17, 2012
    Pace, FL
    Well in that case, I'll be happy to join in, if you'll have me :)
  18. ironpeddler

    ironpeddler Ye Old Newbie

    Apr 8, 2008
    Land of Snatch & Honey
    Glad to be aboard, thanks for including me Brian. I'm sure this will fill up over the Spring so there's no rush guys. This will be a nice casual Pass that will run like a charm. It will be filled with contests and other interesting cigar related stuff. The cigars will be affordable and won't include any crazy expensive don't worry if you can play.
    Anyone interested who has any questions at all, don't be shy and PM me any questions you may have...any questions at all. 
    Thanks again Brian...this is going to be great!
  19. Jonesy

    Jonesy Got Ink ?

    Mar 17, 2007
    C'mon guys, sign up, we have stuff to do before the pass starts and you don't want to be left out!
  20. Capt J

    Capt J Quiet Member

    Oct 8, 2006
    N.E. TN
    I am in if you will have me.

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