Fridge and Wine cooler Guide

Discussion in 'Humidor Forum' started by chadth, Aug 18, 2007.


  1. seadub

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    It certainly doesn't seem that it would matter if you're not using the fridge for cooling and only for storage.

    I did speak with a Sr. Designer at Vinotemp and he "schooled" me about the compressor cooling units they use in Vinotemp products (I was actually at the Vinotemp factory in LA). He told me that they are designed specifically for use with Wine and designed to not completely draw the moisture out of the air. David went on to tell me that the cooling units will allow an RH between 55%-75% (and some units are actually programmable). I'm not a wine-drinker/hoarder, but apparently the "ideal" wine storage conditions are fairly close to the ideal storage conditions for cigars (at least as far as there is an acceptable range of temperature and humidity that's good for both).

    Here's a link for more information on Vinotemp.

    Hopefully this additional information is helpful. And I don't work for Vinotemp. I've just been looking around at options considering another hot LA summer is on the way. :thumbs:


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  2. Toaster

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    This is the one I got, its a Kenmore elite model. (click the picture for more details)

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    Its actually a super nice wine fridge - I think... Its dual zone, 2 adjustments, etc... it just don't get cold... and actually - one zone doesn't cool, the other does cool..... I've already figured out how to manually wire in the fans and LED's - I'd love to make the big bright LED temperature adjustments be RH readings............. I'm sure there's a way - i just havn't figure it out yet.
     
  3. flamchop

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    I got the NewAir wine fridge in the mail the other day. Got it wiped down and aired out to get the plastic smell out and it's holding at a perfect 65 degrees right now. This weekend I'll transfer over my stash and humidity beads from the old unit (Vinotemp). But so far I've had no issues, was delivered as promised, is working as promised (so far), has a cool blue display and light... should work out for me I think.

    Got a fellow BOTL making some cedar shelves and once those are in I should be up and running. I had no problems ordering through Amazon.
     
  4. Shortystogie

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    Chad,

    Great info, bro.

    So if I read you correctly, if your little room fridge has a freezer section, and you install a secondary temp controller / thermostat and regulate the temp, you should be ok?

    I have this fridge and have been scouring the net for information. This has by far been the most structured post.

    Thanks,

    Fauzi
     
  5. chadth

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    The freezer section is going to cause a cold spot around it. You may want to avoid it.
     
  6. Logan

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    I finally got my EdgeStar TWR282S up and running. Mine came from livingdirect.com with free shipping and was on sale for around $200. No major plastic smell at all. I simply left it sitting open by an open window for a day and it was completely free and clear of any stank.

    1 pound of Heartfelt beads and a velcro Hygrometer with temp. display later the fridge is cooling to around 68 degrees (at its warmest setting) and is holding everything at right around 72% humidity. I even used it to reseason my desktop limited edition Punch humidor that holds my singles.

    So far I have a box of El Rico Habano and a box of Kristoff Criollo Matadors in it with more to be added very soon.
     
  7. flamchop

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    Just to update my posts about the NewAir Thermoelectric 28 bottle. I would say this NewAir is worthy to be added to the list of wine fridges on the original post. I would buy it through Amazon.com shipped for under $200.

    I've had it up and running for a while now, and it's keeping temps of 63-66 based on the hydro's I have in the unit. And RH has been steady around 65% with about 1.5 lbs. of beads from heartfelt.

    I also had no plasic smell... it aired out in a day. I guess the real test will be to see if it's still working like this a year from now.
     
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    Where can I get the Oust Fan in another store than Amazon ?
    Amazon doesn't ship electronics products to Israel.
     
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    Good information thanks for sharing
     
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  11. flamchop

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    So now I'm having issues again. Does anyone else have issues with their Wine Fridge's performance after about a year? Now the NewAir Fridge I bought won't get above 56 degrees. This is the same thing that happened to my Vinotemp 28 a few years ago.

    I'm not doing anything differently... if anything I would think the temperatre would stay on the high side (66) since the temperature outside is getting warmer.

    I cleaned out the filter, nothing is blocking anything inside the unit. So frustrating... now I'm looking to buy my third fridge in as many years... I can't be the only one experiencing this?


     
  12. chadth

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    Are you just using the fridge's thermostat?
     
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    Any update on this? Did it start working for you again? I'm thinking about picking up a NewAir within a month or so.
     
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    That's a pretty good deal, but if Im going to use a Compressor cooling system a fridge of that size can be had for about 1/2 that price.
    I picked up a beer fridge at circuit city before they closed for 75$


    Don
     
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    I'm thinking about finally pulling the trigger and getting a winedor and am thinking about the Edgestar model. Is Edgestar a pretty safe bet as far as brands go? I see some of the reviews on Amazon are not all that great (i.e., it quits working after about a year). Has anyone had any problems with the Edgestar?
     
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    Pulled the trigger in an Edgestar this past week. It arrived the other day, so now I need to transform it into the Wineador that it wants to be.
     
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    http://www.wineadors.com/ :thumbs:
     
  19. flamchop

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    Any update on this? Did it start working for you again? I'm thinking about picking up a NewAir within a month or so.
     


     
    I know this reply is a few years late, but there is an update.  I'm now on my 2nd NewAir, and it's now crapping out the same way my 1st NewAir did, and the same way my Vinotemp did.  I don't know if it's just that the winters get too cold around here (Philly), causing the thing to overwork then break, or if they're just garbage, but I haven't been able to keep a thermoelectric wine fridge working for longer than 2 years.  I'm tired of buying them, so I'm not buying anymore.  Unfortunately my sticks will stay at about 55 degrees for the rest of the winter, and I don't know what to do about the summer.  I'm not keen on dropping hundreds more for a temp controlled humidor.  At that point, I will probably have paid more for the storage of my cigars, than I've spent on my actual cigars.  
     
    Anyone have any good experience with a thermoelectric unit in a place that has harsh winters and brutal summers?  Will my sticks be okay if they're stored at 55 degrees for the foreseeable future?
     
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    This statement is not necessarily false. Any difference in area and temperature of the cooling plate, along with cycle time - may well cause a difference between the two types. What is at question here is how much condensation occurs, and the rate at which it occurs. The rate of condensation and amount of condensation are not necessarily the same if the cooling surfaces are different size, shape and temperature and/or have a different rate of air flow over them.
     
     
     

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