Mold Vs. Plume..I really like these forums

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  1. rx2man

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    Finally got my last humidor a few days ago and got it seasoned properly (I hope) so it was time to arrange cigars by wrapper type and strength. Was taking off tube tops on the Romeo Y Julieta Limitidas. On 2 of them I noticed mold or plume. found this post

    "This is what I've learned from many years in the biz. Plume can begin to form in as little as 2 months. mold can set in, in as little as 2 days. Now one of the ways to help determine if you got plume or mold is mold will almost always grow right back after wiped off. So if you have the time wipe off the stick and put in a bag or whatever by ITSELF and in a few days if it is back then you have mold my friend. Also mold will not come off very easily.(most of the time). Where as plume will rub right off. Mold also will stain the wrapper. So if you wipe it off and there is a light or dark spot where the (stuff) was then you have mold."

    The stuff rubbed right off and no stain on the cedar wrapper. I am going to put them in a separate bag though and hope it does not return.

    from the description "Romeo y Julieta Edicion Limitada cigars are blended with a core of vintage Nicaraguan & Dominican longfillers"

    does that mean its old enough to Plume???, I now wish I had not wipped it off.

    and from part of the same reply

    "Bloom or plume or WTF ever you want to call it is due to the oils in the cigar seeping through the wrapper and crystallizing on the wrapper. It typically takes years for this process to occur and many cigars wont do this at all. If I dug every cigar I have in my cabinet out and went through them all (including some ISOM's from the 60's) my guess is that I might, and I do repeat might, find one or two that have plume. Maybe. Possibly. It's really uncommon,which makes a cigar that has it rare and interesting.

    Mold is 99 times out 100 three dimensional...plume is not. Mold will usually wipe off with a moist cloth....plume will usually not but I have seen thin layers of crystallized oils that were affected by wiping. Mold shows up in (usually) hairy little spots...plume show up as a hard to see sheen, a thin film on the wrapper.

    In the years that I've been smoking, each and every time someone posts pics and says "...is this mold or plume..." it has been without a doubt mold. Every time. If you find spots on your cigars and are asking yourself "...gee, is this mold or plume..." let me help you out: It's mold. I have yet to walk into a B&M and find cigars with plume on them, but I sure have seen some furry boxes of moldy cigars that the owner then proudly said were "nicely aged and covered with plume" and I walked right out, never to return, every time."

    Now I am guessing its mold. I am not sure which 2 cigars they were. I think I know but will have to pull a row to make sure What a PIA.
     
  2. rx2man

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    to summarize this whole thing I should not have wipped them off, if it is mold they get trashed if it was plume I should have left them alone.
     
  3. MilesMingusMonk

    MilesMingusMonk Breaking Wind Master

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    Some friendly advice. :thumbs:

    Make sure you give proper credit and link to the original post or thread, especially in the case of Dapp the Cigar Bleacher. :laugh: Also, read this thread.







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    Link to original post by BBS
     
  4. rx2man

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    Thank you for pointing out the spelling issues and possibly grammar as well. I was not a writing major (obviously) but will strive to use proper spelling and etiguette from now on. Can I send posts to you prior to submitting them to be critiqued.....just kidding
     
  5. grateful1

    grateful1 Oh My!

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    Nah, send them to Devil Doc....he loves this stuff!
     
  6. mmburtch

    mmburtch Sleep deprived and cranky

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    Just to be clear, if it's on the cedar wrap it is definitely not plume. Just for the sake of clarification: You know you're not supposed to smoke the cedar, right?
     
  7. BlindedByScience

    BlindedByScience Proud Father of a brave U.S. Marine

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    ....you're not....??.... :0
     
  8. YellowSmoke

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    You guys need to stop messing with me, I am getting confused...
     
  9. rx2man

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    Yes no smoking the cedar part. Well thats that then white mold. Oh well, white mold wont kill you and it wiped off so I got 2 cigars to smoke sooner than later!!!!!
     
  10. rx2man

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    [sup]mmburtch, I think you are demonstrating a extremely narrow minded approach to the cedar wrapper. :D It obviously comes down to personal preference as can seen in the following post. Links below for source credibility.. The cedar wrapper on or off has been discussed at great length, the pros and cons on cigarafficiando.[/sup]

    [sup]http://forums.cigaraficionado.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9426054/m/6227096422[/sup]

    [sup]and someone obviously enjoying the wrapper on [/sup]

    [sup]http://www.flickr.com/photos/stirling_sd/336910883/[/sup]


    [sup]MilesMingusMonk, :0 per your advise I performed a complete spell check prior to posting so as not to offend our more educated forum members. :p In all seriousness I come here to relax and discuss cigars and spelling is not really important to me. I do realize though that others are here to relax as well and spelling and grammer issues could distract from that relaxation. So i will pay better attention.[/sup]
     
  11. mmburtch

    mmburtch Sleep deprived and cranky

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    The pre-edit version of this was hysterical. I nearly fell out of my chair. Fortunately, the chair and my ass have formed a symbiotic relationship.
     
  12. DePasta

    DePasta Stop it! That tickles!

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    You are right MMbuttrch.....MilesMucusMonk was much better......wish I had saved it..... :whistling:
     
  13. rx2man

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    Dannnnng, once edited it does not exist. I am glad people have a sense of humor around here, thought I might get banned and I did not even talk about sources for that which we shall not talk about......
     
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    DePasta Stop it! That tickles!

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    I read that in this guys voice... I don't know why I just did....[​IMG]
     
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    So this is from a box of Queen B's I bought a month ago (too young for plume? Could have been sitting at the store for a while?). It's only on the body and not on the foot, and is white and rubbed right off (plume?) but was under cedar (mold?). You guys have utterly confused me on this topic.

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  16. bluue13

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    Mold. From what I've come to understand, and please correct me if I'm wrong anyone, plume will appear much more uniformly and almost like a haze around the whole stick. The fact that its under the cedar leads me in the direction of mold.
     
  17. Devil Doc

    Devil Doc When Death smiles, Corpsmen smile back

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    I've been smoking cigars for 40 yrs. It's almost never, ever plume.

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  18. BlindedByScience

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    Some smart guy posted the following:

    In the years that I've been smoking, each and every time someone posts pics and says "...is this mold or plume..." it has been without a doubt mold. Every time. If you find spots on your cigars and are asking yourself "...gee, is this mold or plume..." let me help you out: It's mold.

    ...yep.
     
  19. maduro89

    maduro89 Straight Razors and Whisky

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    Has it ever been plume.. sad day.. :(
     
  20. Setharsis

    Setharsis Boot'tye Zdorovy

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    Actually, that's a good question. Does anyone have a picture of plume? I've searched on here but I just find a bunch of fuzzy sticks.
     

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