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Uptown Cigar Company relocating to FL!

Good to hear that you guys are able to stay in business. Just hope nobody intercepts the moving truck :)

PM sent on putting together a strike team for this endeavor.

I'd have to get bigger storage! Wonder where we can get black ninja outfits, guns, a semi truck to block the road, among other things.

Who wants to be the get away driver?

In.
I'm just throwing this out there, but I don't know that I want to see Sneeds in a skin-tight ninja outfit. Burtch, on the other hand, I could deal with. Also, we'll need Joe Joe because he's young and spry. His sweet high-kick and lightning fast reflexes make him the ideal "Fourth Man*."

You guys are nuts. We are NOT taking any inventory to FL. Can you say FIRE SALE?!?!?!?
:0 :faints:


*The "Fourth Man" always seems to get killed in movies... I'm just saying. :whistling:

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Israel, I'm sorry you have to relocate (and the circumstances under which you have to relocate.) I hope this move works out for the best. Well I know it will - it's no secret you're an incredible retailer!

Darn, I was planning on visiting Uptown when I was back in NY in July but I'm going to try my damned hardest to make it this month. If not, I'll be dropping by when Im in Florida visiting family.
 
I was just in West Palm last weekend working on a house for a friend.

Where abouts in WPB will you be located?
 
This is just a kick in the balls. One of the nicest places in the entire area is forced out of business. The socialist state governments are going to kill free enterprise. It's just pathetic.

I'm going to miss Isy and the great staff at Uptown. Many, many good memories of great herfing times.

I hope that you have great success in Florida.

:( :( :( :(
 
Wow! i am out of the internet world for 4 days and I come back and read this! It scared me at first, but then I calmed down after reading.

Congrats on the move Isy! I wish you and your partners the best and hope the move does not cause too much stress!!

As for the Fire Sale! I am in PM me all day!

By the way, it will be MUCH easier to convince the fam to take a trip to West Palm beach for a vaca as compared to Kingston....so maybe I will get to smoke with you one day.

Thank you Isy and Uptown Cigars for your continued service. I look forward to getting a package from FL now!

~Ben
 
Good to hear that you guys are able to stay in business. Just hope nobody intercepts the moving truck
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PM sent on putting together a strike team for this endeavor.

I'd have to get bigger storage! Wonder where we can get black ninja outfits, guns, a semi truck to block the road, among other things.

Who wants to be the get away driver?

In.


I was starting to get very excited about this as for Isy to take that truck south, he'd have to get very close to me, I was in for the strike team.

Isy - my best of course to you with your move. I never made it to Kingston, NY but you have always been fantastic to me with the business I have done with Uptown. I am sorry to hear that the tax situation made it hard to do business but I totally understand why it has and why the decision was made to move.
 
Isy and Michelle made the local paper this morning:

NY taxes drive cigar store southKingston shop moving to Fla.



Michelle Tuchman, right, owner of the Uptown Cigar Co., will stay in Kingston after the shop relocates to Palm Beach, Fla. Store manager Israel Markevitz, left, will run the new business from Palm Beach.
Times Herald-Record/CHET GORDON
By Jeremiah Horrigan
Times Herald-Record
Published: 2:00 AM - 06/07/10
KINGSTON — The Uptown Cigar Co., a pillar of an ever-promised uptown Kingston renaissance, will join the deep ranks of long-gone locally owned businesses at the end of the month.

The store, which has stood at the corner of John and Fair streets for 12 years, will relocate to Florida, according to owner Michelle Tuchman, who will continue to live in Kingston.

The closing's culprit?

Tuchman blames New York state's "unending appetite for tax and fee increases."

Excise taxes on tobacco already stand at 46 percent; Gov. David Paterson has proposed to increase it to 90 percent, so that a $6 cigar would cost close to $12, "and that's exclusive of every other cost I'm subject to," Tuchman said.

She can't compete at those prices, so the business will relocate to the Palm Beach area of Florida.



"And it breaks my heart," she said Friday, when regular customers such as George Winegard were hearing the news for the first time.

Winegard, a contractor specializing in historic renovations, treks all the way from Hudson to smoke and schmooze at the Uptown as often as he can. It's this social aspect of the cigar-smoking experience that both Tuchman and Winegard will miss.

"It's so great to be able to come down here and just kick back and relax," Winegard said.

Tuchman agrees.

"People smoke, drink, gamble — we live in a pressure-cooker world, and people need a place for release."

Winegard's a recent convert to Uptown's charms; for Tuchman, the feelings run much deeper.



She's not worried about the business — it'll do fine in Florida, between the lower costs and the shop's continuing Internet business. But she can gaze up at the pressed-tin ceiling that wasn't there until she gutted the place a dozen years ago. And she can invoke the memory of a city that used to harbor 21 cigar makers and almost as many cigar-box makers.

That city isn't Palm Beach, Fla., either. But come the end of June, Palm Beach will have what Kingston cigar lovers and Tuchman in particular will soon be lacking.

jhorrigan@th-record.com


http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100607/BIZ/6070313
 
Saw this comment posted after the newspaper article concerning Uptown's relocation:

Maureen Sullivan Kenney

While it is sad to see another business close, the closing of establishments that promote smoking is a positive step toward reducing smoking rates in New York. Where tobacco taxes increase, millions will be saved in healt...h care cost.

Nice cut and paste out of your party talking points, sweetie. I do not have words to tell you how angry that makes me. I had typed three replies to her ignorant comment and deleted them all out of decorum. Wonder how she can justify taxing a legitimate, profitable, and legal business out of existence?

I think I'll call Uptown and order a box of great smokes, because of her...!!!

Grrrrr.....B.B.S.
 
Another local paper "Daily Freeman" has write up. I have posted the comments and the link to the paper. I am not posting the replys from some readers as some are happy they are leaving (Cigar Nazis):

Taxes send Uptown cigar store south
Published: Tuesday, June 08, 2010

By PATRICIA DOXSEY


Ed Zeboris of Hurley lights up a Padron, one of his favorite cigars, which he buys at the Uptown Cigar Company on John St. in Kingston. Zeboris has been patronizing the store for all of its 14 years. In the rear is Sean Pascoe of Kingston, who has been a customer for the past six years. (Freeman photo by Tania Barricklo)

KINGSTON — For the past 14 years, cigar connoisseurs could go into the Uptown Cigar Company to smoke and socialize with others who shared a passion for the stogie.

That will all change at the end of the month, when owner Michelle Tuchman closes the doors to her Uptown business.

Tuchman said state tobacco taxes are forcing her to abandon her retail store at 32 John St. and move her Internet business to Florida, where she will be able sell her products free from the high excise taxes New York state levies.

“The rising costs of doing business here in New York no longer allows me to offer my customers a competitive experience and we are forced to move our thriving business to Florida, where the accumulated taxes and fees are reasonable,” Tuchman said in a press release announcing her decision.

She said an expected 44 percent increase in the state excise tax on tobacco products —- to 90 percent from the current 46 percent —- is simply more than she, or her customers, are willing to pay.

“We want to support local businesses and my customers have been doing that for 14 years. When there was a 20 percent excise tax, people were OK; when it went to 37 percent, it was a little more difficult; and when it went to 46 percent, we really started to feel it in terms of sales,” she said.

There is no way her business would be able to survive if the excise tax is increased to 90 percent as proposed in Gov. David Paterson’s budget, Tuchman said.

Excise taxes are levied against all tobacco products sold in New York state from businesses in the state. The tax is not levied against those products sold on the Internet from locations outside the state, Tuchman said.

“If you buy something on the Internet, no matter where it’s from, if they don’t have a location in New York, you don’t have to pay taxes. ... So New York state cigar smokers, if they buy from the Internet … don’t have to pay taxes.”

While her customers will still be able to purchase their cigars from her — and at a price that will be less than they currently pay — they will lose the social experience her smoke shop has offered and she, the friends she’s made.

“These people are just really wonderful and they come from all walks of life. Whether they’re Democrat or Republican, blue collar, white collar, when they enter my store it doesn’t matter. They’re there to enjoy a cigar and invariably solve all the world’s problems,” she said. “I’m grateful for the years I’ve had, I’m thrilled with the friends I’ve made. I have become enriched immeasurably in my life just from the people who have come in.

http://www.dailyfreeman.com/articles/2010/06/08/news/doc4c0dcfef14ed6247508941.txt#blogcomments
 
New York's loss and Florida's gain. I guess I'll have another destination down there when I visit on vacation one of these years.
 
Isy I only met you once and you treated me like a brother! I am just glad you are staying in the same time zone!
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God bless ya my brother. I remain in your corner always.
 
Michelle & Isy,

Good luck with the move. Please forgive me if I pass on the fire sale. I don't want to encourage other sheep-like states, like Ohio, to copy NY's decision by adding to the short term surge in revenue caused by the fire sale. I will be holding out for the GRAND OPENING SALE!

Seriously, good luck, God speed and stay away from the pink doughnut van!

Cheers,

Tony
 
Michelle & Isy,

Good luck with the move. Please forgive me if I pass on the fire sale. I don't want to encourage other sheep-like states, like Ohio, to copy NY's decision by adding to the short term surge in revenue caused by the fire sale. I will be holding out for the GRAND OPENING SALE!

Seriously, good luck, God speed and stay away from the pink doughnut van!

Cheers,

Tony

Thank you Tony! I shouldn't run into the pink donut van....Souldog lives in California!
 
Thank you Tony! I shouldn't run into the pink donut van....Souldog lives in California!

Well aren't you funny?!?! :p

I too am waiting for your GRAND OPENING SALE Isy! I've got a big cabinet humidor coming in tomorrow that I need to fill up with Padrons, DPGs, and Opus! :laugh:
 
Thank you Tony! I shouldn't run into the pink donut van....Souldog lives in California!

Well aren't you funny?!?! :p

I too am waiting for your GRAND OPENING SALE Isy! I've got a big cabinet humidor coming in tomorrow that I need to fill up with Padrons, DPGs, and Opus! :laugh:

Congrats on the new purchase, brother! I'll be up and running on the 1st, so definitely HIT ME UP!
 
Good to hear that you guys are able to stay in business. Just hope nobody intercepts the moving truck :)
PM sent on putting together a strike team for this endeavor.
Good to hear that you guys are able to stay in business. Just hope nobody intercepts the moving truck :)
PM sent on putting together a strike team for this endeavor.
I'd have to get bigger storage! Wonder where we can get black ninja outfits, guns, a semi truck to block the road, among other things. Who wants to be the get away driver?
APInterstate 95 North of FloridaBreaking news, a group of masked overweight men, dressed as Ninja shut down all south bound traffic on I-95 during an apparent truck jacking. The group of men apparently made a diversion by laying a particularly fat man naked on the road to slow the target U-haul truck while blocking the road with a pink Donuts delivery van. The men jumped out of the van and kindly accosted the driver of the U-haul truck. Hugs were exchanged after the driver was removed from the U-haul. He was then released and gave a vague description of events to Law Enforcement on the scene. One of the Ninja appeared to have some tactical training, and although appearing giddy with excitement showed at least minimal assault training. An investigation is under way to determine if the driver of the U-haul was indeed in on the job. Apparently the U-haul was full of well cared for cigars. And the bandits made off with all of them. Gold, cash, and guns were left behind at the scene shedding doubt over the intelligence of the crew. Witnesses reported seeing an Irish man gleefully laughing, while driving the get away station wagon. A cloud of smoke appeared to be coming out of the station wagon.That is all!


Michelle & Isy,Good luck with the move. Please forgive me if I pass on the fire sale. I don't want to encourage other sheep-like states, like Ohio, to copy NY's decision by adding to the short term surge in revenue caused by the fire sale. I will be holding out for the GRAND OPENING SALE!Seriously, good luck, God speed and stay away from the pink doughnut van! Cheers,Tony
Thank you Tony! I shouldn't run into the pink donut van....Souldog lives in California!


Shows what you two know. We are car jacking then driving the Pink donuts van to you my brother!

Seriously Issy, good luck with the move.

PJ
 
Listen the silver lining for all my NY bretheren to all this is now when we order from Isy we dont have to have him ship it to Grateful1 or Tone-Ny to save the tax.....a small consellation nevertheless. :(
 
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