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Air Purifiers

Good links.

I would go with a filter from Wal-Mart. THey have GE and Honeywell which are national brands, you know they are going to be cheap, and you don't have to pay for shipping.

I have a GE from wal-mart that works fine.

Even though the Austin one looks cool!
 
Their are a lot of things to consider when choosing an air filter. You can get different degree's of effectiveness with any one type of filtertration. Using multiple types of units are most effective. IMO, Hepa, Charcoal, and neg Ionizers seem to be whats effective to varying degree's.

I only concern myself with eliminating smell and found that negative ion producing units do that very well. (Actually the best IMO) If you want to increase the effectiveness, add a charcoal filter unit. Understand that if you smoke more than a few cigars a week the charcoal filters will need to be replaced often and this is not cheap. I have two charcoal units that I retired because of the cost of keeping it effective. One thing you can do to help eliminate smell is to throw away cigar butts as soon as possible. Do not let them sit around in the ashtray overnight. (disclaimer- I am not responsible for anyone burning down their house/apt/trailer or any other constructed site who does not check to make sure the cigars are actually out before discarding them.
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If you are looking for smoke to be eliminated you will need to go with a hepa filter. Again, these filters will eventually need to be replaced and can be quite expensive. Eliminating smoke does not eliminate the smell (it does help a little) and vice versa.

I now use two of these units Surround Air Ionizer in my smoking room which is approx 15x15 and it eliminates odor very well. I smoke one or two cigars a night in this room and my wife thinks its the cats meow since she can not smell any odor the next day.
 
Hey! This ain't rocket science. Why go to the expense of buying an air cleaner when you can just fire up a Ceegar and allow the aroma to improve the air.
I've been doing this for years! My entire house and garage both have that wonderful scent of a well smoked cigar. It is without a doubt the best and easiest way to go. I recommend...
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Every HEPA filter I have looked into has a charcoal pre-filter which is much cheaper to replace than the pleated HEPA part.

Certainly the ones you get a wal-mart do.
 
The two units I have discarded to the garage were bought at walmart a few years ago. One was a Holmes desk top model that requires (to be effective) one filter be replaced approx every two months OR SOONER at a cost of $15 to $20. Thats $90 to $120 @ year operating cost....3 to 4 times the cost of the $30 unit and it did a so so job.

The second unit was a larger GE unit that had 3 filters that would need to be changed (again, to be effective) approx every 4 months. I don't recall the cost of those filters but its safe to say they were as much as the Holmes model. Operating cost of this unit cleared $150+ @ year. This unit was very effective in eliminating smoke. I believe the cost of this unit was around $120.

Oh yea, I forgot to mention the charcoal pre-filters you need to replace more often than the hepa filters to keep the odors down but don't worry...they're cheaper! ;) :)
 
I guess I should have mentioned that I am no using the purifier to get rid of cigar smoke. I live near the mountains which results in alot of dust. So I only care about getting rid of the dust, so it doesn't start damaging my electronics.

The Walmart one looks good, I'll go check it out this weekend and probably buy it.

Thanks for the help,
Rod
 
Aha.

Kenny:

I think I have the exact smae model you had. Maybe slightly bigger, it's kinda flat and has three pleated filters set into the front wchich is covered my a lattice door.

I paid like $150 so I might have the next bigger model. I just got it a few weeks ago so no replacements yet...I only use it a few hours per week though.

Rod:

I would NOT go with an ionic purifier. Consumer reports did not rate them highly. HEPA is the way to go and yes there's going to be a cost. I think air purifiers are like printers, they make more money on the filters (in kcartridges) than on the original unit.

Finally Rod one thing you can think about is putting a 3M Filtrete filter in your furnace/AC and just running that all the time. Make sure that the filter is placed in a manner that cleans all air coming through (might need some modifications, most A/C Filters are pretty loose) and those babies will clean your house like nothing else!

That's what I use and when I ran my fan for like 24 hours one the whoel house just smelled better and I had less allergies and stuff. It can get expensive though, electricity wise.

Just some more food for thought bro

Later

JC
 
Thanks for the info.

I read alot about those ionic purifiers, and all they do is create an ozone in the room and simply knock the dust to the floor. That doesn't help at all, since the dust is still there!

Anyways, we do have a filter on the a/c/heater intake, but dust comes in from other sources. So I've decided to go with the top of the line one from walmart.

Rod
 
FWIW I have a Honeywell Ionic cleaner and it is ok. It does collect small particles. I am foing to modify it so it has filter material on the intake side in order to trap more dust. It works for keeping the room smeeling ok. I have a long haired dog so that is a plus in my book. Also, it isn't as expensive as the hepa filter.
Every year we have a guy come clean the central air vents with a vacuum. That helps also. Definately get the Filtrete air filters. In a high dust/pollen area they are great. Getting a vacuum with a hepa filter is also my advice. Vacuum twice a week as the dust has to settle somewhere. ;)

Emo
 
Lumberg said:
......I only use it a few hours per week though.


I would NOT go with an ionic purifier. Consumer reports did not rate them highly.
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If you're running it only a few hours a week then you will probably not have to change filters but once a year. :thumbs: I agree that the Hepa will be the best type of unit for what Rod's use will be. Hepa filters will clean 99.7% of particles as small as 3 microns and I've heard some talk about a new two stage hepa filter that will remove particle's as small as 1 micron.

I'm interested in this consumer report you speak of. Do you know where I can find this report? Specifically, what criteria were they basing their rating on? Dust? Smoke?, Odor? I ask because I have done quite a bit of research both from a reading stand point and personal trial. We have 5 dogs (that live inside), a cat, and my cigar smoking. We have tried them all and nothing compares to the effectivness of negative ion's generation for killing odor from my experience.

Have any of you used a Lampe Berger? My wife loves these and it does a great job with odors also...... I just haven't figured out if its masking it or actually eliminating it. They say it eliminates the odors but I'm suspect. Regardless, it does leave the house smelling like a french whore.... but it doesn't give you the right to call the wife Fifi...... trust me on this. ;) :)
 
by consumer reports I mean the magazine or the website consumerreports.org.

You need a subscription. If you want I can cut and paste some of the text for you but for the full deal with the ratings and everything you have to subscribe, which is expensive if you don't already subscribe to the rag.

JC
 
I have a Honeywell Envirocaire 64200 which has a CPZ, Hepa Filter and Prefilter. It works great but I had to put it in the closet because the CPZ is $150, Hepa $120, and Charcoal Prefilter $13. It is the largest machine Honeywell makes and it set me back $350 maybe 3 years ago.

FYI Go to the library for the consumer report Mag. Issue Oct. 2003
 
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