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atuck

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If I offended any of the FOGs out there let me say here that I totally apologize. I really did not mean to. But I can see how I might have and I am sorry for that. I do have much respect for you all and have learned so much from you all. Please do not be angry at me. I enjoy this boards and I value all of the input I can get from you guys.

I may not be thinking the clearewst due to the situation with my Mom so I am going to not post for a while. I was trying to participate to keep my mind on "normal" stuff. But instead I ended up upseting a few of you which was never my intention. My head is all ****ed up right now anyways.

Again I'm sorry!
 
I understand what you're saying about the situation you're dealing with. I think we must be careful of how our emotions can get carried away and/or misinterpreted....especially on the internet.

You did send some mixed messages there, so I would suggest thinking about things before posting.

Here is my perpective on the whole "FOG" issue...

I've been on this and other boards for many years. I've had the rare cigars, done the bombs, passes, trades, gifts, charity thing, etc...

I've earned my spot to say what I think. If that offends the newer guys, sorry. I earned that, as have others on here. So while you may have better cigars, been smoking them longer, or are older than some here Atuck, you are new here....remember that. And if you want that respect you earn it by right of passage. I firmly believe in this and there are many that haven't said anything about your posts who do as well.

The short of it is, watch how you word what you post so you're not misunderstood....and maybe, one day you will understand what I'm talking about. We look out for this place, we've earned the right to do so.

Lee
 
In following up with Lee's post, the FOGs I know on this site are GREAT people. This forum runs like it does because of the efforts of the FOGs - many times it's not noticeable, but clearly evident. These guys have invested blood, sweat and tears in making this place what it is. They've chased out the a$$holes, and built up the hopefuls. All doing it by "busting balls".

If there is some "ball busting" going on - it's not the end of the world - unless you choose it to be. My suggestion is to learn from it, let it go and move on.

In all sincerity, Alan, I hope your mother is doing well. My thoughts and prayers are with you and her.
 
ggiese said:
If there is some "ball busting" going on - it's not the end of the world - unless you choose it to be. My suggestion is to learn from it, let it go and move on.

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Never truer word were spoken. I called out some FOGs here after being a member of the board for only about a month (maybe less). I had my ass handed to me and learnt from that mistake. I now count the same guys who "sorted me out" as friends, even though I have never had the pleasure of smoking with them (yet).

This thread is a step in the right direction atuck. :thumbs:

I echo George's sentiments regarding your situation with your Mother. Your family is in my thoughts and prayers...
 
FOG's my a$$. If you want respect then make damn sure you are worthy of it... every day. Longevity means squat just ask DaveWF.
Lee and George are worthy, CC is such a weasel ya better at least act like you respect him or he'll bury you in 500 word posts. Harris, while humorless and officious should be tolerated for his effort, mattR is a freak and best left alone, moki wears a dress and you really don't want to go there... Kenny and Floyd were separated at birth, JoeM is continuing to contribute to his surgeons' retirement fund and the rest of 'em I just don't have time for...

NA
 
ggiese said:
If there is some "ball busting" going on - it's not the end of the world - unless you choose it to be. My suggestion is to learn from it, let it go and move on.

I'm ready to move on too. This is getting stupid and unnecessary.

And atuck, I have not mentioned your mother in any previous thread, regardless of whatever else is said, that's real life. This is other stuffis nowhere near as important. Good luck with that.
 
Sometimes turning people in the right direction takes a point of a finger or a poke in the eye.
 
ggiese said:
the FOGs I know on this site are GREAT people.
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Dub-G, does this mean you're back to being a newb again :p
 
SamClemmons said:
FOG's my a$$. If you want respect then make damn sure you are worthy of it... every day. Longevity means squat just ask DaveWF.
Lee and George are worthy, CC is such a weasel ya better at least act like you respect him or he'll bury you in 500 word posts. Harris, while humorless and officious should be tolerated for his effort, mattR is a freak and best left alone, moki wears a dress and you really don't want to go there... Kenny and Floyd were separated at birth, JoeM is continuing to contribute to his surgeons' retirement fund and the rest of 'em I just don't have time for...

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And Neal will hate you no matter what you do or say in apology. He hates you because you breathe. Something we all must live with.
 
Clemmons and Leebo, newbie pukes like you should be seen, not heard. Now the two of you......go get my shine box. lol
 
BrownDevil said:
ggiese said:
the FOGs I know on this site are GREAT people.
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Dub-G, does this mean you're back to being a newb again :p
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I'm a Gramps, not a FOG... :sign:
 
I think this is an EXCELLENT example that all newbies (myself included) should learn from. In the past month or two, I've seen a few of the newer guys post some stupid sh** and the ball-busting commenced. It was quite obvious to almost everyone on the board (except the guilty party) that all of it was justified and deserved. However, they chose to act like a 5 year old and got themselves backed into a corner and tried to whine and/or fight their way out instead of listening to what was said, learning from it, and moving on. This is a great example of how, with some common sense (which I know is in short supply these days) a little bit of humblness (in your newbie status) and some maturity, things can work out for the best. The FOGs have better things to do than to bust someone's balls for no reason. When they do it, they are trying to set you straight and point out your mistake. Take it for what it's worth, be respectful to EVERYONE in the process, and it's over. Lesson learned, no harm done. You will have become a better member of the community for it. I think the responses by some of the FOGs in this thread prove that they are busting balls with all the right reasons in mind.

What it all comes down to is that the newbies that have recently had their asses handed to them and are no longer able to post here without being poked at have earned that right! It is nobodies fault but their own that they are in the position they are in now.

I'm not passing any judgement on Atuck's post at all, just wanted to point out how both Atuck and the FOGs both made their point and did it respectfully without starting a childish flame war. I think all of the new guys/gals should take note from this type of interaction and realize that you have to be careful of what you type on the internet. Things can get taken the wrong way very easily. Also, if ball busting ensues, it's probably well deserved and meant to make you a better member of the board. If you can take that for what it's worth (and not take it personally), learn from it and move on, you will become a better member of the community and be much more respected by all who post here. If you decided to try to claw your way out and not take any advice from the elders here, well then you will get what you deserve.

That's just my opinion. But I'm a newbie...so I don't know sh**!

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! ;)

Thanks for the lesson all! Will definitely file it away in my memory bank for the inevitable time when I will say something stupid. It never fails! :D

Edited to say: I don't know atuck at all, but I think it really says something about his personality that he was able to keep his head about him and respond to this whole thing the way he did while going through all the things he is with his Mother being sick and all. I don't know if I would have had the wits about me to react the way he did. Thoughts and prayers are still with you and your family atuck. Peace brother.
 
SamClemmons said:
FOG's my a$$. If you want respect then make damn sure you are worthy of it... every day. Longevity means squat just ask DaveWF.
Lee and George are worthy, CC is such a weasel ya better at least act like you respect him or he'll bury you in 500 word posts. Harris, while humorless and officious should be tolerated for his effort, mattR is a freak and best left alone, moki wears a dress and you really don't want to go there... Kenny and Floyd were separated at birth, JoeM is continuing to contribute to his surgeons' retirement fund and the rest of 'em I just don't have time for...

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LOL! :laugh: Cantakerous old misanthrope.
 
hudsonvalley said: "And Neal will hate you no matter what you do or say in apology. He hates you because you breathe. Something we all must live with."


And I am ROFLMFAO!!!! THAT has got to be the funniest chit I've ever read!!! :sign: :sign: :sign:

Floyd T. :sign:
 
SamClemmons said:
FOG's my a$$. If you want respect then make damn sure you are worthy of it... every day. Longevity means squat just ask DaveWF.
Lee and George are worthy, CC is such a weasel ya better at least act like you respect him or he'll bury you in 500 word posts. Harris, while humorless and officious should be tolerated for his effort, mattR is a freak and best left alone, moki wears a dress and you really don't want to go there... Kenny and Floyd were separated at birth, JoeM is continuing to contribute to his surgeons' retirement fund and the rest of 'em I just don't have time for...

NA
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I'm sensing a secret obsession.... Neal... you can tell us...
 
SKYDIVNEKD said:
hudsonvalley said: "And Neal will hate you no matter what you do or say in apology. He hates you because you breathe. Something we all must live with."


And I am ROFLMFAO!!!! THAT has got to be the funniest chit I've ever read!!! :sign: :sign: :sign:

Floyd T. :sign:
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I dunno - I'd like to think that Neal despises me a lot - not hates me... Hate is such a strong word....
 
Gosh it's nice to see everyone kissing and making up. Let's agree to never fight again.
 
Fyodor said:
Gosh it's nice to see everyone kissing and making up. Let's agree to never fight again.
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