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Golf clubs and how to select them

CigarStone

For once, knowledge is making me poor!
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I have seen periodic questions and discussion about golf clubs and what to buy so I thought I would share some of my knowledge in hopes it will help some BOTL’s and SOTL’s to enjoy the game.

It is truly fascinating what actually happens to a golf club during the swing and an understanding of some of it may help people avoid buying the wrong clubs. The vast majority of golfers play their entire life with clubs which are not right for them and they never know it, they simply don’t play as well as they could with the right clubs and some give up the game prematurely because they don’t enjoy it.

Up until the perfection of the launching machines, which can tell you a great deal about your swing, you had to go to a pro and be fitted by hitting hundreds of balls with clubs of all different specs. A launching machine being monitored by the right person can tell you even more in 10 minutes, however, this can still be a fun couple hours if spent with the right pro. Be careful of going to places like Dick’s Sporting Goods or Golf Galaxy to get the help you need; the golf pro is there (and not at a club) for a reason and they typically are full of a lot of wrong information. And remember this, their goal is to convince you to buy one of the sets of clubs they have in stock which are all standard anyway. Speaking of standards it is helpful to know that every club manufacturer has different standards. Titleist irons have different standard loft and lie angles than Taylor Made or Callaway or Cleveland, etc. and these differences can be significant. For example there is typically 4 degrees difference in loft angle between clubs, i.e. a seven iron to an eight iron, and manufacturer’s standards can vary as much as 3 degrees so, for example, a Callaway 8 iron can virtually be a Taylor Made 7 iron.

The very most important thing to do if you are contemplating buying clubs is matching your swing speed to the proper shaft flex but this is just the tip of the iceberg. Buy shafts which are too stiff and every shot will feel like hitting an anvil with a sledge hammer………buy shafts which are too soft and you can not control the ball. The shaft determines 95% of the performance of the ball, so make sure the shaft is the proper flex for you. After the shaft flex, the next most important thing is probably the lie angle, this is the angle made up of the shaft and the sole of the club (the part that rests on the ground). See the below pic.

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A club which is too upright for you will impact the ground with the heel first (the part of the clubhead closest to you where the shaft is inserted,) just prior to contacting the ball, and the club face will close producing low and left ball flight and increase distance uncontrollably. A club which is too flat for you will impact the ground with the toe of the club first (the part of the clubhead farthest from the heel), just prior to contacting the ball, and the club face will open producing high and right ball flight with very weak, and again, uncontrollable distance. To make this even more confusing the shaft of the club bends during the swing so what looks like a perfect lie angle during your stance is changed as the club approaches contact with the ball. In the picture below you can see how the shaft is bent which slightly changes the lie angle at impact.

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This is how the shaft bends for most people but not all, for some people the shaft bends the other way…….confused yet? If not, let me add this……..this is all controlled by your swing plane angle which changes with posture and muscle tension. In the below picture you see a representation of a swing plane angle and you can see how this would effect everything described above.

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Practicing enough to develop muscle memory, stretching before and during play, and learning to relax while swinging can allow you to replicate your swing and create consistency.

A couple other things that enter into shaft selection are less critical until you have grooved your swing and can routinely produce similar results but since I am inundating you with trivial information, why not continue. The flex point, or kick point, of the shaft is the point of the shaft most susceptible to bending during the swing. Some shafts are made to bend closer to the club head and some are made to bend closer to the grip, each produces minor changes in ball flight trajectory. A shaft with a high kick point, or flex point, will produce lower ball flight because the club head is being de-lofted more so than with a shaft which has a low kick point. The amount of offset in a club head is the distance the actual face of the club lags behind the shaft, see diagram below.

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During the swing the club is actually rotating on the axis of the shaft like a fan blade, the toe is, in essence, orbiting the heel. For those who always push or fade the ball, a set of irons with high offset can help because it allows a couple more milliseconds to get the club pointed at the target before contacting the ball. Although this is really little more than a band aid to compensate for a flaw in the swing it does work well for many people. A better way is to practice until you have fixed it yourself. This brings me to another very important key to better golf. It takes approximately 1/10th of a second longer to swing each iron as you progress from the shortest clubs to the longest clubs, i.e., it takes 1/10th of a second longer to swing a 7 iron than it does to swing an 8 iron. Most golfers attempt to swing each iron in the same amount of time and this is why most golfers struggle with long irons…….slow down and allow the club to work for you.

One last point on shaft selection…….. Graphite or steel? This is often toyed with by beginning golfers regarding what shaft to put in their set of irons. Graphite shafts are lighter than steel and some think this allows you to swing the club faster, the opposite is true. The proper swingweight is critical to timing your golf swing. Swingweight is the ratio of weight in the clubhead vs weight in the shaft and since graphite shafts are lighter you must either get clubheads which are also lighter or lengthen the shaft. Swingweight has a very precise impact, for example, adding the weight of a dollar bill to the clubhead will change the swingweight one point and moving three or four swingweight points can drastically effect your swing. Since irons are intended to be the accuracy part of your game, either lightening the overall club weight or lengthening the shaft is seldom a good idea.

Here is a simple test that will help you to understand your golf clubs and maybe improve your game. Take your 6 iron (it works the same for all irons) and a pencil with an eraser on the end. Holding your 6 iron at the farthest end of the grip, as lightly as you can, poke what you think is the sweetspot of the club face with the eraser end of the pencil. If you miss the sweet spot the club will rotate in your fingers and damn near jump out of your hand, if you hit the sweetspot the club will simply swing away like a pendulum. This will tell you where the ball should be impacting the face on contact. At the practice range, place a piece masking tape on the face and see how often you are hitting the sweetspot. Ben Hogan said the average amateur golfer strikes the ball perfectly once, on average, in a round of golf.

One last tip………the biggest flaw in most golfers game is the mis-conception of distance, the importance of it and how to achieve it. On any given golf hole, the further you progress from tee to green the less room there is for recovery. What this means is, you can still make a birdie after a poor drive, you are less likely to make a birdie after a good drive but poor second shot and it is virtually impossible to make a birdie after a two good shots followed by a poor third shot. And equally important is an understanding of how distance is achieved in a golf swing. Clubhead speed is what determines distance; and clubhead speed is not created by strength but by timing and flexibility. Tiger Woods changed how touring pros approach golf by working out and building muscle mass, not for strength but to create muscle mass which, when taught the proper muscle memory, could be relied upon to produce the same results repeatedly. Clubhead speed can only be generated once in a golf swing, if you watch the pros their swing looks almost lazy until just before impact. Look at the picture below and note where his hands are and that his wrists are still cocked.

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The ensuing wrist release into the ball, when coupled with all the right body movements, will produce incredible distance. Believe it or not, this is a much toned down swing from when Tiger first came on the scene, his original swing, while capable of producing more length was inconsistent and he had to calm it down to find the balance of accuracy and distance. You may remember early in his career, he would occasionally completely airmail a green from 100 yards……this was due to an explosive wrist release which produced inaccurate results.
 
Interesting. I always judge a set of clubs on the following two creteria:

1. How easliy can I snap them in half over my knee.
2. How far can I throw the pieces.

:D
 
Interesting. I always judge a set of clubs on the following two creteria:

1. How easliy can I snap them in half over my knee.
2. How far can I throw the pieces.

:D


I like my wedges to be able to go into the turf at least 6-8 inches.
If they have to much bounce, they don't stay up when I slam them into the ground!
 
Interesting. I always judge a set of clubs on the following two creteria:

1. How easliy can I snap them in half over my knee.
2. How far can I throw the pieces.

:D


I like my wedges to be able to go into the turf at least 6-8 inches.
If they have to much bounce, they don't stay up when I slam them into the ground!

THAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout.
 
Interesting. I always judge a set of clubs on the following two creteria:

1. How easliy can I snap them in half over my knee.
2. How far can I throw the pieces.

:D


I like my wedges to be able to go into the turf at least 6-8 inches.
If they have to much bounce, they don't stay up when I slam them into the ground!

THAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout.

It's great to see a couple brothers who have figured out how to have fun with the game :D Make sure to remember to spit on your grip before you throw your club. It would prevent it from sticking to your hand and having your helicopter barely miss someone in your foursome.
 
Interesting. I always judge a set of clubs on the following two creteria:

1. How easliy can I snap them in half over my knee.
2. How far can I throw the pieces.

:D


I like my wedges to be able to go into the turf at least 6-8 inches.
If they have to much bounce, they don't stay up when I slam them into the ground!

THAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout.

It's great to see a couple brothers who have figured out how to have fun with the game :D Make sure to remember to spit on your grip before you throw your club. It would prevent it from sticking to your hand and having your helicopter barely miss someone in your foursome.

Where is the fun in that?! We all know that the risk of being hit on a golf course is high! :p
 
It's 20 degrees outside with 8 inches of snow on the ground. I miss golf.

I played Tiger Woods Golf on my son's Wii the other day. Great game, but they need to figure out how to program in a 'throw the f*****g club' feature.
 
Now I don't play golf and don't follow sports in general but that article was a pleasure to read. When the presentation is good enough to keep a non-enthusiast engaged and make him feel like he learned something after reading, then you've been successful.

Great work, Jeff! :thumbs:

Wilkey
 
Butch Harmon's Ultimate Golf

great video that teaches some really good tips, especially for the short game. The closer I get to the green, the worse my game gets. I can kill a halfway decent round of golf with a pitching wedge!

Definatley stay away from golf galaxy and dicks sporting goods for instruction. Every once in a blue moon GG has some good deals on clubs.
 
Butch Harmon's Ultimate Golf

great video that teaches some really good tips, especially for the short game. The closer I get to the green, the worse my game gets. I can kill a halfway decent round of golf with a pitching wedge!

Definatley stay away from golf galaxy and dicks sporting goods for instruction. Every once in a blue moon GG has some good deals on clubs.

The best $20 I ever spent on golf is Harvey Penick's "Little Red Book"

Instead of teaching swing plane angles and where you body parts should be at the various stages of the swing, he teaches you the mental side of Golf (someone once said "Golf is 90% mental and if you figure that out you are half way there").

Harvey teaches things like "Instead of the fairway being your target with a driver in your hand, pick the blade of grass you want your ball to land on and "Take Dead Aim" After reading his book and watching the video I learned to mentally record feelings and sensations about how to hit a certain shot rather than hand position, stance, hip rotation, etc. He also teaches the simplest fix to the exasperating problem of your grip.....he says to "pick up a yard stick in your home, and hold it like a club, you can not hold it wrong".........pure genius!
 
In addition to "The Little Red Book", I recommend another good reference book. "Bob Toski's Complete Guide To Better Golf" covers the mechanics of the game. Granted a large part of this game is mental, but it's also about mechanics. The section that I use most in this book is Part 2, which focuses on common problems such as slicing, pulling and topping. The book gives a no bull explaination of factors that would cause the problem and steps to take to eliminate it. It was originally published in 1973. I don't know if it is currently available, but I would recommend buying it if you come across a copy.
 
Bumped cause the season is right around the corner.
 
Thanks for bumping. This was a great read and this is the year I plan on gettng back to playing golf regurarly.

Interesting. I always judge a set of clubs on the following two creteria:

1. How easliy can I snap them in half over my knee.
2. How far can I throw the pieces.

Sounds like my criteria except I have one more - how well do they float, since a club or two on occassion has landed in a water hazard after executing criteria #2. :D
 
Man am I glad you bumped this today Jeff, I was going to be going out in the next few weeks to start looking for new clubs and this info is priceless. Thanks.

Sam
 
Good bump. I didn't start playing until I was 23 and ended up playing to a 6 handicap when I stopped playing 6 years ago. I would always get asked why I stopped playing, was it because I was playing badly? No, the last round I played before I stopped, I shot a 76. My problem was, I was only playing with 1 guy all the time and he would consistantly shoot in the upper 80's....golf at that point became more of a chore than fun. I would be ready to stop after 8-10 holes. I just started back playing about a month and a half ago because my son who just turned 11 wanted to go and play. It amazes me that I can still hit my driver (6 degree Biggest Big Bertha w/ Harrison tour xs graphite shaft that you can get on ebay for $15 now :laugh: ) straight, I am still dead on from 165 with my King Cobra Tour 8 iron, but I can't chip or putt worth a shit now. :laugh: I wish I could blame it on the Tad Moore Maxfli putter (hand-me-down) I'm using because I sold my Cameron Pro Platinum Newport 2...but I don't think it's the putter. :rolleyes:

So, Jeff...now that you know I play golf, you'll have to stop in Charlotte to play a round the next time you're on your way to Hilton Head.
 
I've always really wanted to learn to play golf because it is one thing my father really enjoys doing. He is only 57 but I would really like to spend some father-son time on the course before he is unable to do so. They live on quite a bit of land and he has his own little driving range set up so when I go out there I try to hit a few balls and really have to contain myself to avoid throwing the club! :blush: I enjoy watching golf and think I'd have a good time playing it but I don't think God gifted me with the ability to do so. Great and informative post and if I decide to try and give it another go I'll definitely read over this again to get some good tips.

Thanks! :thumbs:
 
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