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My NewAir wineador build

modo22

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Ok, so this process started back in April!  My wineador, Newair 28 bottle wine cooler, stopped working last fall (2013).  I had owned it and had no issues since 2009.  For some reason last fall the cpu stopped working and the fans would no longer turn and it would not cool.  I made it through winter just fine and stumbled upon a scratch and dent special just before the heat started here in the Midwest.  Picked up a Newair 281E for a great deal, the dent is unfortunately right on top of the digital display, but it works with no issues.  I aired (while wiping down with hot water every now and then) the unit out for several days while my smokes sat in my old wineador and desktop humi.  In my old unit I just used the wire racks and boxes to store my cigars, but this was the time to make the jump to drawers like a man deserves.  I contacted Forrest and started to throw questions and options at him.  There had been some issues with production time of late so I made sure that was not going to be an issue before I ordered.  Ordered 3 drawers, two shelves…now I just had to wait.
 
In the meantime I wanted to construct something for some extra air circulation inside.  I also wanted to get a 3rd hygrometer.  I tried the new Xikar with no calibration needed, but it was so far off from my current two (one Walmart worthy and one standard round).  So I then tried the Xikar with calibration, but it is still reading a whole 6% difference from my others.  But running the new unit, as I have been running my other, at 60%-68% was fine by me. 
 
While waiting for the drawers I was able to get the new unit to hold steady at 66%/68* while storing my cigars in some boxes on the wire boxes.  Finally my new drawers came!  As I picked up the box from the office the smell just ooooozed out of the box, cedar; yum!  I quickly opened them up and began to wipe them down with some distilled water and got them in the new unit to acclimate them to the new climate.  While that happened I stored my smokes in the old unit and was lucky with the weather, but really had to keep my entire apartment at a nice and cool temp with some heavy AC usage.
 
One drawer was chipped from shipping.  I contacted Forrest; he shipped a new one with a prepaid shipping slip to send back the damaged one.  It took a while, but it came in a week or two.  The only other issue was the felt on some of the dividers was just peeling off, so I asked him to send new felt and had to remind him for a month or so.  Finally got everything finished up with him and at this point am happy.
 
So now I have all my smokes in.  I am surprised that I am still pretty full in there!  I took two old DC fans off the old wine fridge, striped the two wires, and crimped them together.  A lot of builds I have seen took the fans from their low voltage up to enough voltage to plug in to a standard outlet by using a USB cable and then plugging that into an old charger, but I didn’t like the multiple connections that could lead to multiple trouble shooting if something went down.  So I took an old phone charger and just striped that down, essentially just skipping the USB part.  I played with this a lot to find what worked for me; it was an overly painful step for me because I am OCD at times.  After that I went to Home Depot and bought a light timer.  I have the timer currently set to turn the fans on for 10 mins every hour.  Then I took some old wine corks, cut them in half, and mounted the fans (pointing down) on them to lift them up off the bottom of the cooler.   I did not plug the bottom hole as the cables running through there are blocking most of it.  I have not had any condensation issues at this point.
 
As of today 10/5, I am having no problems with temp.  It is consistent between 66-69.  The Humidity is iffy sometimes.  It ranges from 64-69, but the difference between the bottom and top of the cooler, depending on what hygro I use, can sometimes reach 72% on the bottom.  I have two Tupperware dishes full of 65% beads.  As of late I have had two or three cigars that I have found in the center two racks that have a little mold on them. But I have not found a huge amount.  But for me two or three with mold is A LOT compared to what I have ever had in the past.  I am not freaking out, but I have removed one of the Tupperware dishes at waiting to see if the % changes.  Any advice on this is welcome.  Over all I love it, I am very happy with my set up, but just hope to not have a humidity issue and find no mold issue, although I find that certain brands of CCs sometimes have this issue regardless.
 
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Love it, how many sticks can you get in there....?
And, why remove the extra beads? Shouldn't they serve to help regulate it even better?
 
Great looking trays! Nice job on the fans :)
 
1 - wipe mold from any cigars that have it and then keep them separate from the other cigars to keep it from spreading. Plastic bags or five finger bags should be fine, toss them after you smoke the cigars.
 
2. Calibrate your hygrometers.
 
Everybody has a method they prefer. I like to stick them all in a plastic bag that is inside another plastic bag with a couple of regular size boveda packs that are at a RH near what you want to hold. Stick those bags inside your wineador, hopefully where you can read them thru the bags and door. Wait 36 hours. They should all be reading the same. If no adjustment, or hard to adjust put a sticker on there that says -2% or whatever you need to add or subtract to make it the same as the boveda, The reason to put them in the wineador is so they will be at the same temp you want to hold (RH is relative to temp) and you also can note if the temp is accurate.
 
Edited Misread - that temp range is fine, and consisent. About what I would expect.
 
When you have some mold, try to keep things around 67/67 and avoid reaching 70/70.
 
FWIW, last time I had mold - only cigars in one box had it, no more out of a number of other boxes. I'm thinking that box was stored improperly at some point.
 
Whatever, mold loves to spread in a moist warm environment. Big thing now is to be diligent to keep it from spreading. Particularly when you have a number of cigars in trays. If I were you, I would try to stabilize between 65/65 _ 67/67 or so until such time as I believed the mold was not spreading, then it would be more personal preference.
 
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Depending on temperature, point of the cycle (peltier just turned on - peltier just turned off, position in the cabinet of the hygrometer, fans off, fans on, and so on the indicators on the hygrometers can fluctuate more than I would like when really all is happening is they are only reading air moving around that is normal within the temperature shift.
 
You might want to try putting one of the hygrometers in one of the closed boxes for a while and make any adjustments based on what point the cigars in the box and the box are stabilized at.
 
Had an issue with mold in tupperware a many moons ago.  I just tossed them.  It wasn't worth the risk to my other cigars.  Mind you, they were Siglo I, Siglo III and Siglo IV, but I could not chance it from moving to any place out.  I replaced all the Cigar Oasis's  reservoir, replaced the beads and cleaned the whole humidor out and let dry.  Since then, knock on wood, not problems.  In the warmer months, it's important to check the humidity inside and outside the humidor.  In addition, checking the beads and reservoir monthly helps too.  Sometimes, the hygrometer is not 100% correct.  They seem, for even the good ones, to loose their barring every now and then.
 
jsm11 said:
Love it, how many sticks can you get in there....?
And, why remove the extra beads? Shouldn't they serve to help regulate it even better?
He said the double drawers I bought can hold 94 single sticks....I have not counted what I have in there, I am kind of afraid to.  And yea, the extra beads should offset it, I am just trying something different.
 
personal User said:
Great looking trays! Nice job on the fans :)
 
 
 
2. Calibrate your hygrometers.
 

You might want to try putting one of the hygrometers in one of the closed boxes for a while and make any adjustments based on what point the cigars in the box and the box are stabilized at.
Thanks for all the notes!  I have calibrated all three multiple times to try can calm my OCD.  They are all reading +/- 2% of each other.  I am happy with them. 
 
I actually started putting one of them inside the drawer and seeing after a few days what the reading is; and so far I am finding that all is good, 63/65 or 65/65.  I am at this point chalking up the mold to just a few sticks that had issues or that brand.  One of them was a gift a few months ago, so I am just hoping that it got too much shock and that is the reason. 
 
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