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In other news the box is here. I'm gonna get the ice packs refrozen and everything sorted tomorrow, hopefully it will be on the road Friday morning.

Ok guys, here's the new pass thread: http://www.cigarpass.com/forumsipb/index.php?showtopic=69571

Alrighty guys, this will be the thread for the remainder of the pass. First and foremost, please review the Pass F.A.Q/Q&A thread for those of you new to passes or who may be a little rusty. As far as puts and takes go, I'd prefer to keep it pretty standard: 1 for 1 trades, Cuban for Cuban...

I'll get the pass thread up tomorrow night hopefully, and get it started hopefully by Wednesday.

Ok, here's the chain of responsibility as I see it: People who paid Tim should seek refunds from him. Tim should seek refunds from Allen. Allen should seek refunds from Bruce. The order of the refunds is entirely dependent on the character of lowest member of the chain. It's easy to say it...

Look at all that plume!

Alrighty guys. So the pass will be on its way shortly. Jay is going to mail it to me before he heads back out of the country, and I'll get it started sometime early next week. I'll get the list and info posted in the active passes forum sometime this weekend, and we'll use that for a new thread...

It seems like Allen bought these cigars from Bruce for his personal collection, and then sold them off when he fell on hard times. If that is the case, then in my opinion Allen should be on the hook for refunds in this case.

This one is all full up. Thanks for the interest though. Stick around, there will be more opportunities later! Also, take a moment to throw an introduction up in our "Introduce yourself here" forum.

Alright, until we hear from Jay, here's roughly what the pass map is looking like:

Jay: if you end up wanting to wait to start the pass I will gladly hold it until fall.

Oh how far we've fallen.

Fair point.

MarkJr: Keep an eye on the pass and get a feel for how these things work(though this will probably not be all that standard) and if you're still around at the end I'll work something out for you.

Hey all, sorry for the extended silence. Jay should be back in the country soon, and then we'll get this show on the road. I'll try to get the pass order posted shortly.

I guess what I wonder is how many people in the chain of sellers knew they were fakes.

Have we heard from Tkoepp at all on this?

This is the kind of situation better handled in private.

There's still time to flee, Ben!

Happy birthday #2!