It's all coming together....

jgohlke

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After a year of newbie-ness, I have finally amassed enough cigar facts to put them together into a bit of cigar knowledge. What have I learned? Mostly, I have been overhumidifying my cigars.

Since I've been paying attention, I notice that the cigars bands are usually very tight on my cigars, yet slip off easily from aged cigars that are gifted/traded to me. Most of my cigars "cone" when I smoke, go out often and sometimes even split when I smoke them. They are hard to draw and don't produce that much smoke.

Finally, last week, after 3 failed attempts in a row to have a nice smoke, it finally dawned on me...no matter what the meter says, these cigars are too wet. Although both of my meters show 63-65% RH, the house is fairly warm (78-80) with no basement (Central Florida) and no place to really keep the cigars cooler.

I experiemented. The house RH is about 45-50% with the A/C on, so I put some uncovered cigars inside the house, by the return vent for the A/C. The air doesn't really blow on them, it flows over them (it's a gentle breeze, rather than fan-type wind). I smoked 3 cigars, "dried" in front of the vent for 1, 2 and 3 days respectively. The first day, the cigar was noticeably drier, burned better and had more flavor. The 2nd cigar was hard as a rock when I put in out and still that way 2 days later. Smoking it was futile, I tossed it. I'm chalking it up to a bad cigar. The last one (3 days of drying) was outstanding. Even burn, no coning, lots of smoke and flavor. Really a great smoke...I took my time with and really enjoyed it.

So, what's up? Even though I've read that RH is RH and 70% is 70% etc...I'm thinking that if I could lower my cigars to 70 degrees, they would initially be too wet until the RH stabilized at the new temperature, right? Does this mean they are too wet now? I think so...Also, I only smoke outside and right now (and for the next several months) it will be close to 100% humidity outside. If I try to smoke a big cigar, will it absorb enough humidity over the course of smoking it (1-2 hours) to affect the burn/smoke/enjoyment? It seems like it does.

For now, my plan is to continue to store them as before. But, before I smoke them, move them to the drying area for a couple of days and then store them in my travel humidor (dry box) until I smoke them.

Long-term, I'd like to find someway to keep them a bit cooler. Any ideas? Remember, no basement, no cool nights...the house A/C runs 24x7 for 7 months a year straight....

Cheers,
Joe
 
im kinda surprised you dont have bug issues as opposed to cigars that are too wet.
try removing your humidity device for a couple of days. as far as accuracy of gauges that depends on alot of variables too many to go into here. nothing wrong,imo,with letting a cigar breathe for a day. if it smoke better i say do it.
you really need to find a way to cool those bad boys down. this may be adding to your wetness problem.

but thats just my opinion..and who am i?
 
I was gifted a glass-toppped box of Cohibas from a friend who traveled to the Dominican Republic. Not only were they crap cigars, they had bugs. As a result of that infestation, I ran all my cigars through the freeze cycle (1 day refrig, 3 days freezer, 1 day refrig)...so haven't had any bug problems other than the fake Cohibas.

I was wondering what the other southern folks do?
 
Even if you smoke an Opus "A" it won't absorb enough moisture from the environment while smoking it to affect the smoking characteristics.

You need to make sure that your humidification device can not only add moisture to the air but remove it as well.

Keep us posted.
 
I switched to 65% beads (1 lb for one medium sized coolidor) several months ago. They stay mostly white (dry) and the humidity has been running about 63% during the winter and spring (very dry and then very wet). Now the A/C is on full-time, so the house stays about 78 degress with 45-50% humidity. I haven't been adding water because I've been trying to dry out the cigars a bit. Previously I was using 50/50 (PG and water) and the RH was running right at 70%.

I know that 60$ beads are available and I have been thinking about switching to them. In the meantime, I've been trying to figure a way to keep the cigars just a bit cooler...no great ideas yet.

Appreciate the interest and feedback. All ideas welcome!

Cheers,
Joe
 
I may be reading too fast, but how are you measuring the humidity? What kind of container are the cigars in?

If it's not a coolerdor, try putting the cigars as close as possible to the AC supply registers; the air coming directly from your vents should be significantly colder than ambient. Build a shelf or move a bookcase if you have to.
 
100% humidity for 7 months a year! I am so glad I don't live in the swampy atmosphere of the south.
Our air is so dry in California, I don't think we have bugs do we?
I sure hope you get this figured out.

You could always send your cigars to me for drying out :whistling:

Rich
 
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