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I don't care one bit about your little tiff with CC, but you've now taken it to the level of intentioanly disrupting this site and that's just not right.

Wurm said:
And we have a lot more members new and old who are contributing in a positive way who think things do need to change. Some of them are like me very vocal about it (not by choice but I've never backed down from a fight in my life), and others who are quietly leading by example.

My word to the Posse is this, you may eventually get rid of me (even I get tired of drama but it will not be for breaking the rules I agreed with when I joined), but change is coming regardless, enough members have seen through you and the way you conduct business and have realized you are not protecting the forums but only feeding your egos.

This is where you're selfish attitude comes shining through - this is not a new community that you and your 'friends' can mold to the way you want, this is an established community and you follow the written and unwritten rules if you want to participate. Too difficult for you to understand? Then move on - You do not own this place. If the proven methods were not working, Rod would be the first to put an end to them. Not everyone agrees with the methods some use (especially when you're not involved), but the temporary discomfort resulting from the FOG's methods is far outweighed by the results 99% of the time.

Your declaration that you are going to stay here no matter what, and continue to allow the forums to be disrupted because you are too proud and/or stupid to apologize for your insulting statement about something that never happened with the Secret Santa shows you truly don't give a damn about this community despite your claims. You think CC and his "posse" were unfair or mean? You just insulted every single member with your 'change is coming' B.S. - and more importantly you directly insulted Rod, his website, and all his hard work in keeping this site going. (and fingering out 'good FOGs' is poor taste and I'm sure most people would not like you dragging them into your mess)

You directly insulted CC and everyone who's been involved with the Secret Santa the past couple of years, as well as the owner and membership of the site in general. Whether or not you understand it, you do owe him an apology for your accusation that you publicly made for everyone to see no matter how it was initially intended. If you can't be a man, then just move on. Your stubborn insolence and immaturity is starting to affect a large amount of people, and you seem to be enjoying it far too much....
 
Don't like it, don't read it Steve. You think telling someone to shut the fugg up is helping anything? If the problem is what you say it is and it's hurting the board then you are now part of it.

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IgwanaRob said:
I don't care one bit about your little tiff with CC, but you've now taken it to the level of intentioanly disrupting this site and that's just not right.

Wurm said:
And we have a lot more members new and old who are contributing in a positive way who think things do need to change. Some of them are like me very vocal about it (not by choice but I've never backed down from a fight in my life), and others who are quietly leading by example. 

My word to the Posse is this, you may eventually get rid of me (even I get tired of drama but it will not be for breaking the rules I agreed with when I joined), but change is coming regardless, enough members have seen through you and the way you conduct business and have realized you are not protecting the forums but only feeding your egos.

This is where you're selfish attitude comes shining through - this is not a new community that you and your 'friends' can mold to the way you want, this is an established community and you follow the written and unwritten rules if you want to participate. Too difficult for you to understand? Then move on - You do not own this place. If the proven methods were not working, Rod would be the first to put an end to them. Not everyone agrees with the methods some use (especially when you're not involved), but the temporary discomfort resulting from the FOG's methods is far outweighed by the results 99% of the time.

Your declaration that you are going to stay here no matter what, and continue to allow the forums to be disrupted because you are too proud and/or stupid to apologize for your insulting statement about something that never happened with the Secret Santa shows you truly don't give a damn about this community despite your claims. You think CC and his "posse" were unfair or mean? You just insulted every single member with your 'change is coming' B.S. - and more importantly you directly insulted Rod, his website, and all his hard work in keeping this site going. (and fingering out 'good FOGs' is poor taste and I'm sure most people would not like you dragging them into your mess)

You directly insulted CC and everyone who's been involved with the Secret Santa the past couple of years, as well as the owner and membership of the site in general. Whether or not you understand it, you do owe him an apology for your accusation that you publicly made for everyone to see no matter how it was initially intended. If you can't be a man, then just move on. Your stubborn insolence and immaturity is starting to affect a large amount of people, and you seem to be enjoying it far too much....
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Very well said... :thumbs:
 
Wurm said:
That didn't take too long now did it? George also called orangeman and indyrob assholes in the same thread, but yeah he's a member of the posse so it's ok for him to do it.
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Please back that statement up with fact - point me to the post. I believe it was the other way around... ;)
 
I hate to be a post padder - but if I edit my earlier post no doubt wormie will accuse me of editing out the context of my previous post to favor my position. I would prefer to keep it virgin so he can't say I was changing material facts...

wormie - clearly in your mind it is, therefore reality. What you don't grasp is: It's not - it's your imagination and you're using your imagination to fuel this discussion in your favor... ;)
 
Why has this been carried into yet another thread? I feel like I'm in elementary school. This crap is doing nothing but polluting the forum.

And if anyone chooses to create a fake account in attempt to mask their identity, you will be permanately banned as well as placed on the "scumbag list" for all cigar site owners to see.
 
Rod said:
Why has this been carried into yet another thread? I feel like I'm in elementary school. This crap is doing nothing but polluting the forum.

And if anyone chooses to create a fake account in attempt to mask their identity, you will be permanately banned as well as placed on the "scumbag list" for all cigar site owners to see.
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Now were talkin!

No hiding behind fake identities, that's just being coward. this whole thing could have been eliminated with an apology but it's way past getting that from wurm because of he passionate feelings.

time to fire up a fat Opus./

Rich
 
I'm personally offended that my name has not been used in ANY of these recent FOG disagreements... it's like I'm not even here and never have been....... ;)
 
Matt R should put his pants back on! So there someone mentioned your name, happy now? LOL
 
tone-ny said:
Matt R should put his pants back on! So there someone mentioned your name, happy now? LOL
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Thank you, kind sir.....
 
cigardawg said:
Jesus H Christ...you two are as bad as a couple of little girls. Get your damned knickers out of knots and start talking about cigars. Enough of this:

Did not. Did so.
Did not. Did so.
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Crap. One of you...doesn't really matter which one, just stop. It is as simple as that.
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Scot, if you've got nothing to add, STFU and stay out of it.

Wurm posts lie after lie and is a disruption to the place, you think that's okay?

If so, do tell.
 
Wurm, this isn’t going to go away. I’m not going to read all the post that concern whatever the problem is. All I need to know is that several of the BOTL are not happy with the way you have carried yourself at CP. I suggest you do what it takes to end this before someone gets banned.

Until then, like the sands through an hourglass these are….

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coventrycat86 said:
cigardawg said:
Jesus H Christ...you two are as bad as a couple of little girls. Get your damned knickers out of knots and start talking about cigars. Enough of this:

Did not. Did so.
Did not. Did so.
Did not. Did so.
Did not. Did so.
Did not. Did so.
Did not. Did so.

Crap. One of you...doesn't really matter which one, just stop. It is as simple as that.
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Scot, if you've got nothing to add, STFU and stay out of it.

Wurm posts lie after lie and is a disruption to the place, you think that's okay?

If so, do tell.
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Bill. I never suggested that what he said was OK. Fact is, after several days (at least) of on-going hostilities, this is the first thread that has prompted me to say anything. My comment was addressed to both of you. You are two grown men. You should be able to rectify this situation in a mature manner. NEITHER of you are doing so.

My suggestion is this. Wurm, you are refusing to apologize out of pride at this point. Suck it up. Apologize for what you said and how you have conducted yourself. It's just that simple. Eat some crow.

Bill. Simmer. Stop going over the top on this thing. Take the reasonable approach and suggest a solution that will satisfy everyone (including Wurm).

At this point in this "discussion" there is WAY too much ego and testosterone involved. Everyone just calm down and settle it. It is just not that hard.

BTW, Bill. Find a better solution to criticism than to tell someone (me) to STFU. That particular phrase offends me. I don't like it. It's not something you would say to my face, don't say it to me on the boards. I try to conduct myself in a civilied manner...please do the same.
 
cigardawg said:
It's not something you would say to my face, don't say it to me on the boards.
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Scot,
That sounds intimidating....unless of course you meant to start that sentence with an "if"......

Your post didn't add much to this, neither did Steve's...if you don't like it, don't read it imho....
 
cigardawg said:
coventrycat86 said:
cigardawg said:
Jesus H Christ...you two are as bad as a couple of little girls. Get your damned knickers out of knots and start talking about cigars. Enough of this:

Did not. Did so.
Did not. Did so.
Did not. Did so.
Did not. Did so.
Did not. Did so.
Did not. Did so.

Crap. One of you...doesn't really matter which one, just stop. It is as simple as that.
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Scot, if you've got nothing to add, STFU and stay out of it.

Wurm posts lie after lie and is a disruption to the place, you think that's okay?

If so, do tell.
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Bill. I never suggested that what he said was OK. Fact is, after several days (at least) of on-going hostilities, this is the first thread that has prompted me to say anything. My comment was addressed to both of you. You are two grown men. You should be able to rectify this situation in a mature manner. NEITHER of you are doing so.

My suggestion is this. Wurm, you are refusing to apologize out of pride at this point. Suck it up. Apologize for what you said and how you have conducted yourself. It's just that simple. Eat some crow.

Bill. Simmer. Stop going over the top on this thing. Take the reasonable approach and suggest a solution that will satisfy everyone (including Wurm).

At this point in this "discussion" there is WAY too much ego and testosterone involved. Everyone just calm down and settle it. It is just not that hard.

BTW, Bill. Find a better solution to criticism than to tell someone (me) to STFU. That particular phrase offends me. I don't like it. It's not something you would say to my face, don't say it to me on the boards. I try to conduct myself in a civilied manner...please do the same.
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Scot, I find your comments offensives so a simple "STFU" is appropriate rather than a long, drawn out post which you seem to find unpleasant.

This guy is posting lies, I'm objecting to it and you direct insults at me:
"little girls" "knickers" etc.....
Your lecturing and snide comments about:
WAY too much ego and testosterone involved.
are offensive and if I made comments to you like that, you would not like it.

Hardly conducting yourself in a "civilized manner" you're just as bad as wurm with crap like that so instead of a simple "STFU" how about you just refrain from being obnoxious?

By the way, if you were just as obnoxious to me to my face, I'd probably tell you to STFU to your face.

Yep, two wrongs but yours was first. ;)

If my "STFU" comment offended you, I apologize.
 
Lee said:
cigardawg said:
It's not something you would say to my face, don't say it to me on the boards.
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Scot,
That sounds intimidating....unless of course you meant to start that sentence with an "if"......

Your post didn't add much to this, neither did Steve's...if you don't like it, don't read it imho....
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Lee. I stated it exactly how I meant to. There is nothing intimidating about it. Civility dictates that Bill wouldn't say it to me face to face. I don't expect him to say it to me on the boards. Just that and nothing more.

As to not adding anything. That was pretty much the point of my first post. Nothing anyone is saying (Bill and Wurm, included) is adding much this discussion. I can't be the only person on this board that finds this whole thing slightly ridiculous.

On second thought, I think my post did add to this. I suggested everyone calm down and settle it. I have not seen that much reason added to this thread by anyone else.

Lee, it is funny that you picked only that part of my post to quote. I had some very valid points and yet you had nothing (good or bad) to say about any of them. Not suggesting anything, just find it strange.
 
I read the rest of your post, I just think that part could be construed as a threat...which we don't put up with on here.

You can state your opinion but I'd be careful about making comments like that one.
 
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