Burnt Tongue
No Tastebuds...
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I'd suggest you proceed forward in your posts with nothing but respect towards Rod. He's given you a ton of slack on his board so that you can promote your clocks/lamps/humidors on the forums and behind the scenes. Back in February you stated here that you had already sold / traded for 100 cigar box clocks ~ at $30 -$40 a clock, that's an estimated $3500.00 in sales/ trades, not including the sales of your cigar box lamps, humidors, etc. Hefty $$$ for 5 months of membership. Take note, the last person who promoted his wares for personal gain here was DaveWF.
MMM,
I must have totally missed something... $3,500 profit from CigarPass in less than 6 months??? I now see where George, Neal, MMM, et all are coming from. I thought you had only sold 10 or so clocks here. My sponsors don't even pay anywhere NEAR $3,500 a year! Nowhere near that amount!!! And you have the nerve to have an attitude Wade? While at first I didn't agree with Neal's little clock scheme, but in the end he did a damn good job at proving how you're profiteering. This is freak'n nuts. While other's may look at Neal, Kirk, George as shit stirrers, my hat's off to these guys.
Corporate America is full of money hungry whores (and no Wade, I'm not calling you a money hungry whore). The cigar community in general is something quite different. Most consumers in this industry actually care about their hard earned money. Most of the American public has been brainwashed by the large corporations. Go buy a car, and they won't haggle with you. Buy a new computer and you have to buy from a big name chain/corporation. There are no more mom/pop shops anymore; they have all been washed away by the big corporations. It's really sad. I like to believe that cigar smokers are a little different, and we watch out for one another. How many gouger's do we have peddling their cigars here? None, since TW Cigars was kicked out.
I don't mean to stray off topic, but the fact remains that we are all part of this community not only for the wealth of information that it offers, but also to get fair deals on cigars, accessories, etc. I see people bombing, trading, doing cigar splits, etc everyday here. That's what CP is about, being part of a small community where we can trust one another, not profit from one another.
Wade, if I were you, I'd try to redeem myself by exempting myself from any controversial discussions. Posting this thread was nothing but bait, and you know it. Neal took it and ran with it. In the end, it came back to haunt you. CP really does have a lot to offer. If you give a little, you'll receive a lot. Just my advice to you.
Thanks for reading...
Rod
I understand the need for pointing out certain situations in these threads. The way this whole thing went down was childish and immature. The only one here who did the right thing was MMM. He pointed out clearly what he thought happened with Wade’s clocks and challenged Wade to defend himself. Wade should have responded to his challenge or not.
Sam Clemmons used his insulting remarks to "stir the shit" to quote Rod. I for one was insulted along the way when I challenged Sam Clemmons. I felt he went at it the wrong way and I stated so with what I thought was a reasonable post. I did not use any insulting remarks to state that opinion. What I got in return was more shit stirring and insulting remarks from Sam Clemmons. In my opinion Sam Clemmons was not acting in a manner suitable to this site. I only did this after reading a lot of his posts and realized he has been doing this for a long time. I did not see much if any added value to his posts going back for a full year. Do we need an attack dog on this site for our own protection? I for one don't think so. We can challenge offenders a lot more reasonably. This is a self moderated board and we need to use moderation when posting.
I also am a little confused about the so called post whoring charges here on this site. This is a bulletin board it is here for posting! Isn’t that what we are supposed to be doing? I have been called a post whore here by some and that is okay. I average 6 posts a day but most of my posts have added value whether you agree with them or not. The balance is to welcome someone or congratulate someone's good fortune. I think the challenge made to post whores should be "garbage poster". there are a lot of people who have high post counts and most of them have value. A few that come to mind are AVB, Wilkey and Blinded By Science (sorry for throwing you under the bus guys). Most of thier posts add value, should these guys cut back? I for one don't think so.
This is a good site and I enjoy myself (and learn about my hobby here) immensely. I have made a lot of friends here and most of the time I enjoy reading the posts. I do get disgusted when I read these attack posts and see the community melt down in front of our eyes. We need to change the way we "go after an offender" in these posts. We need to take a lesson from MMM and use a calm approach to charges we make. Calling someone a name is not the answer. We need to take a lesson from the Don Imus fiasco and start to use a little more self control on these posts. After all we are cigar smokers, are we not gentleman?
Sam you owe me an apology. I did nothing wrong in calling you on your post. I did it in a gentlemanly way and your response was inappropriate. I hope we can all be better brothers and learn from this situation. In the past we have prided ourselves for the methods used in posting here. We do not take spelling or grammatical shortcuts. We need to use the same pride in what we post! The climate of what is acceptable is changing and we need to change with it. This is just my opinion and felt the need to express it.
Thanks for your time,
Paul