My wonderful conversations with Mike:
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Mike there is a problem with the Cohiba EL DC's you sent me. Can you send me your email address so I can send you photos? Do you have more of them?
Hey dude.
Sorry to hear that... but it's also been several weeks. Not sure what I can do for you about that now.
Mike
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Its not in regards to any damage. The cigars are fakes. Take a look at the rest of them in the box. The Cohiba band is all wrong. The C of the Cuba is doubled. I will send you pictures. I need to look at those sublimes when I get home but the DC's are fake for sure.
Trust me when I tell you... they're not fake. All of my cigars come from an extremely well-known and reputable source.
Can't speak to the bands that came with them, but you're not smoking the bands, are you? smile.gif
A lesson I learned long ago is that the cigar bands are accessories that speak nothing to the legitimacy of the cigar. There are many vendors who ship cigars naked. But... there are those who swear up and down that if the band is fake, so too is the cigar. To each their own.
But like I said, this will be the last I say about this because it comes across as defensive when I have nothing to defend. The people over the years that I have exchanged cigars with know that too.
Don't know if this sets your mind at ease but it should. smile.gif
Mike
Mike I'm sorry but I just don't feel like this explains the fact that the cigars are fakes. Why would someone bother to put fake bands on real cigars. Who was the source of these cigars? Do you still have the rest of the box? I would appreciate i if you would refund me the money for a return of the sticks you sent me.
You know that discussions of sources is a no-no. Once you get a little more experience under your belt, you will learn the ins, outs, and nuances of island cigars and the vendors that they come from. If you believe that the validity of a cigar is rooted in the band, then its not my place to educate you. That's what the board is for.
I don't feel I have an obligation to give you a refund. The sticks are legit and if you don't believe that for whatever reason, that's on you. My reputation more than speaks for itself. Feel free not to purchase anything from me in the future. I won't be offended and ultimately, it will be your loss.
I don't generally do public sales, but I was just trying to hook some new people up with some older sticks that they probably have a hard time getting. This is also the reason why I prefer to deal with FOGs who are in the know. It's all good though.
Take care.
Mike
This is no way to be treated! I checked the Sublimes after this conversation and found them to be of questionable ring gauge.
I know that is not enough to tell a fake but the fact that he sent me fakes with these tell me they are fake all the way. So Mike you owe me money for 3 Sublimes and 3 DC's. End of story.