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A little forgotten history - Alice Bag

Punk, Author, Artist, Feminist.

Arguably the first LA female punk band leader in the 70's this was especially impressive not only for being a woman at that time but also for a Hispanic woman at that time. Probably best known outside the punk community for being in the film series "The Decline Of Western Civilization" (a 3 film set I highly recommend) Alice is still an active artist and author.


And 45 years later


Guest vocal due out in April

 
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TexasTraveler said:
Well if @kann isn't going to post for St. Patrick's Day, someone has to do it!!

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Thank you, sir. Been ridiculously busy at work, and just catching up here.

Sadly, Dave King suffered a near-fatal brain hemorrhage in January and has undergone several surgeries for it. He's relatively in the clear, now, from what it sounds like, but has a long road of rehabilitation in front of him.
 
AVB said:
TFT

While I'm waiting to leave for my 1st cancer consult I figured I'll let you ponder this connection

Gustav Holst - Mars - The Bringer of War ​


Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath​


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While I was trying to put the story together I ran across the Wiki page which was far and away better than what I was typing. So not needing to reinvent the wheel, here is what they have to say:



According to the band, the song was inspired by an experience that Geezer Butler had in the days of Earth. Butler, obsessed with the occult at the time, painted his apartment matte black and placed several inverted crucifixes and pictures of Satan on the walls. Ozzy Osbourne gave Butler a black occult book, written in Latin and decorated with numerous pictures of Satan. Butler read the book and then placed it on a shelf beside his bed before going to sleep. When he woke up, he claims he saw a large black figure standing at the end of his bed, staring at him. The figure vanished and Butler ran to the shelf where he had placed the book earlier, but the book was gone. Butler related this story to Osbourne, who then wrote the lyrics to the song based on Butler's experience.[4] The song starts with the lyrics:

What is this that stands before me?
Figure in black which points at me.
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A version of this song from Black Sabbath's first demo exists on the Ozzy Osbourne compilation album The Ozzman Cometh.[5] The song has an extra verse with additional vocals before the bridge.[6] It's one of the band's most frequently performed tracks, being featured on every single tour of their career.

The riff is fairly simple, highlighting the dissonant and dark sound of the tritone against a stagnant harmonic rhythm. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> This particular interval, the tritone, is often known as the diabolus in musica,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-Wolf-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> for it has musical qualities which are often used to suggest Satanic connotations in Western music.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-Wolf-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-10"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> The song "Black Sabbath" was one of the earliest examples in heavy metal to make use of this interval,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-Wolf-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> and since then, the genre has made extensive use of diabolus in musica.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-Wolf-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a>

The riff was created when bassist Geezer Butler began playing a fragment of "Mars" from Gustav Holst's The Planets suite. Inspired, guitarist Tony Iommi returned the next day with the famously dark tritone.
 
AVB said:
While I was trying to put the story together I ran across the Wiki page which was far and away better than what I was typing. So not needing to reinvent the wheel, here is what they have to say:


According to the band, the song was inspired by an experience that Geezer Butler had in the days of Earth. Butler, obsessed with the occult at the time, painted his apartment matte black and placed several inverted crucifixes and pictures of Satan on the walls. Ozzy Osbourne gave Butler a black occult book, written in Latin and decorated with numerous pictures of Satan. Butler read the book and then placed it on a shelf beside his bed before going to sleep. When he woke up, he claims he saw a large black figure standing at the end of his bed, staring at him. The figure vanished and Butler ran to the shelf where he had placed the book earlier, but the book was gone. Butler related this story to Osbourne, who then wrote the lyrics to the song based on Butler's experience.[4] The song starts with the lyrics:


A version of this song from Black Sabbath's first demo exists on the Ozzy Osbourne compilation album The Ozzman Cometh.[5] The song has an extra verse with additional vocals before the bridge.[6] It's one of the band's most frequently performed tracks, being featured on every single tour of their career.

The riff is fairly simple, highlighting the dissonant and dark sound of the tritone against a stagnant harmonic rhythm. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> This particular interval, the tritone, is often known as the diabolus in musica,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-Wolf-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> for it has musical qualities which are often used to suggest Satanic connotations in Western music.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-Wolf-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-10"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> The song "Black Sabbath" was one of the earliest examples in heavy metal to make use of this interval,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-Wolf-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> and since then, the genre has made extensive use of diabolus in musica.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-Wolf-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(song)#cite_note-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a>

The riff was created when bassist Geezer Butler began playing a fragment of "Mars" from Gustav Holst's The Planets suite. Inspired, guitarist Tony Iommi returned the next day with the famously dark tritone.
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I'd love to believe that there was some paranormal, evil stuff going on there... but, more than likely just lots of drugs.
 
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