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Man on the Moon

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In what has to still be considered the greatest scientific accomplishment of mankind, Neil Armstrong has become the first man to walk on the Moon. The astronaut stepped onto the Moon's surface, in the Sea of Tranquility, at 0256 GMT, nearly 20 minutes after first opening the hatch on the Eagle landing craft. Armstrong had earlier reported the lunar module's safe landing at 2017 GMT with the words: "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed."

As he put his left foot down first Armstrong declared: "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."

He described the surface as being like powdered charcoal and the landing craft left a crater about a foot deep. The historic moments were captured on television cameras installed on the Eagle and turned on by Armstrong. Armstrong spent his first few minutes on the Moon taking photographs and soil samples in case the mission had to be aborted suddenly. He was joined by colleague Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin at 0315 GMT and the two collected data and performed various exercises - including jumping across the landscape - before planting the Stars and Stripes flag at 0341 GMT.

They also unveiled a plaque bearing President Nixon's signature and an inscription reading: "Here men from the planet Earth first set foot upon the Moon July 1969 AD. We came in peace for all mankind."
 
Biggest hoax ever pulled off by the US Government . . . that and claiming that Oswald acted alone. I cannot believe anyone buys any of this stuff. :whistling:


LMAO :laugh:


Thanks for the bit o' history.
 
Yeah, kinda funny how hard it is for us to get there "again." Doesn't matter to me if it was a hoax or not, but I don't see why it is that difficult to get there with current technology.
 
merlik said:
Yeah, kinda funny how hard it is for us to get there "again." Doesn't matter to me if it was a hoax or not, but I don't see why it is that difficult to get there with current technology.
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Could it be more of "We've been there, let's go farther"? I really have no idea, it just seems like there's more passion to do things that haven't been done before.

I don't think there's a moment in history that has affected more people in more ways. This was the beginning of the technology revolution. We still don't realize all the effects that the lunar landing brought upon our world.

Good stuff, Ray!
 
Hey Andy, did you hear about this one? Tell me, are you locked in the punch?
Hey Andy, are you goofing on Elvis? Hey baby, are you having fun?
If you believed they put a man on the moon, man on the moon
If you believe there's nothing up my sleeve, then nothing is cool
 
*sigh* Don't tell me that there are HBs (Hoax Believers) here too? I guess there are some things that cigars won't fix. :p

Some of my most vivid childhood memories are of the space programs...and the first Moon landing was no exception. You couldn't have peeled that 8-year-old science geek away from the TV with a putty knife.

Anyone who questions why we haven't gone back need only look back to the reasons the Apollo program was terminated prior to completion: money. Originally, there were to be three more missions after Apollo 17, ending with Apollo 20. Budget cuts forced their cancellation. Thank you, Walter Mondale. We haven't gone back since then because no one has been willing and able to spend the money necessary. Nowadays, however, there seems to be a shift in the fiscal winds. NASA is in the early stages of developing manned missions to the moon and beyond. It's still gonna cost a butt load of money, though and only time will tell if public and political support will see the program to completion as planned.

Now about this hoax business. The hard core HBs can be an interesting lot. Not very strong on facts or logic but they can be real characters. I've debated several and witnessed a few in their full, frothing-at-the-mouth, wild-eyed glory. Watching a full-blown meltdown can be entertaining but kind of sad, too. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the APA one day formally classifies them and other conspiracy theorists...if they haven't already. If you fear that you might have the early symptoms of HB Syndrome, get thee straightaway to Moon Base Clavius for treatment. If you think that some HB arguments may sound convincing, it won't take much reading there (or from other reputable sources) to discover that they are neither convincing, nor sound.
 
Yeah, so we flew all the way to the moon, some guys got out and walked around, even drove a dune buggy around some, sent back hi-res video of all of the events but didn't have any way to show the public the good video feed, so some TV technician in Australia pointed a TV camera at the video feed monitor and the world watched the fuzzy, crappy, grainy video that WAS the moon landing. Oh yeah, then NASA stored the original video tapes in some guys garage for a while, but has since lost them.

So the US engages in what could be described as the single greatest technological achievement of the 20th century, spent billons of dollars and then lost the video tape of the event?

I'm not a conspiracy guy, but it's easy to see how to get them from here....
 
I watched every minute of it, Ray. I was in the 7th grade and had a 3 inch thick scrapbook, full of publicity photos sent me by Nasa. I got on the list the year before and got 8x10 manilla envelopes sometimes twice a week for more than 3 years. What a thing for a kid enamored with Star Trek. Alas, the scrapbook didn't survive my Navy days. It was like losing a friend.
 
jgohlke said:
Yeah, so we flew all the way to the moon, some guys got out and walked around, even drove a dune buggy around some, sent back hi-res video of all of the events but didn't have any way to show the public the good video feed, so some TV technician in Australia pointed a TV camera at the video feed monitor and the world watched the fuzzy, crappy, grainy video that WAS the moon landing. Oh yeah, then NASA stored the original video tapes in some guys garage for a while, but has since lost them.

So the US engages in what could be described as the single greatest technological achievement of the 20th century, spent billons of dollars and then lost the video tape of the event?

I'm not a conspiracy guy, but it's easy to see how to get them from here....
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There is a movie about this. conspiracy

I too am not a conspiracy nut not but WTF? They show footage out the window just like we saw on the tv but with guys walking through the shots / adjusting lights / knocking over back drops? what gives?

***I did not buy the video someone "shared" it with me via a torrent. And the only only reason I do get into the the conspiracy crap is because I am afriad I would get way to involved, Worrying about contrails, UFO's bla bla bla.***

Does any one have any extra tinfoil?



ETA And the only only reason I do get into .... I meant DO NOT
 
jgohlke said:
Yeah, so we flew all the way to the moon, some guys got out and walked around, even drove a dune buggy around some, sent back hi-res video of all of the events but didn't have any way to show the public the good video feed...I'm not a conspiracy guy, but it's easy to see how to get them from here....
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The biggest problem with the conspiracy theory? Facts. Incorrect, misinterpreted, misapplied, incomplete, or totally absent facts.

For instance, the Apollo 11 video feed was not hi-res. Technical limitations required the video feed to be transmitted at both a lower resolution and a slower frame rate. Yes, the ground stations (not just the one in Australia) used a camera pointed at a monitor to convert the signal. This was a one-time solution, so it didn't make sense to develop conversion electronics for just that occasion. Sure, this degraded the video a bit...but not as much as drastically reducing the bandwidth in the first place. Read more here.

Later missions had much higher quality video feeds, including Apollo 15, 16, and 17...the only missions to include a "dune buggy"...the Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV). Neil and Buzz had to hoof it during their 2-hour EVA.

The movie at the link, A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon is chock full of mistakes and misrepresentations. But what more could one expect from someone who sometimes lays claim to being an engineer but has no credentials or formal education to back it up? :sign:
 
Wait, You mean to tell me we went to the moon........

When the heck did this happen?















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Actually I'm also a huge NASA fan, but the whole "we lost the video tapes" thing just ticks me off. They may find them yet....

I grew up near Orlando, FL and my subdivision was full of familys with an engineer dad. My parents didn't think much of the space stuff, but all my friends did and many times I tagged along with another family to go watch the space shots. They used to let you get closer than they do now and there isn't anything like watching a Saturn V rocket blast off!
 
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