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these did not exactly come in a box they were left overs from the 5000 box run who you have seen pictures of. actually they came in a bundle of 25 wrapped up neatly in a news paper, the rollers and factory workers can smoke all the cigars they want while at work and i understand can take 3 or 4...

thanks. i'm not trying to be defeneive on this thread which was started july 12 and in 6 days has had some 1500 views and 100 some repies. i have only wanted to keep the facts stright and i think this has been a very informitive discussion thread.i'm going to do simular offers in the future...

how could anyone with any knowlege of the paragas line say that,the series d #4 is a classic in fact it was the top rated robustos of 2004 if you want to get tech here it is length 4 15/16 in or 124 mm diameter 13/16 in 19.84 mm weight 11.18 g ring size 50 you guys crack me up, give something...

very nice pics,yes you see the reserva is exactly the same body construion of the serie d #4. they choose three rollers at the partagas factory to make these out of special aged leaves from 2000 stock,thus the 2000 date on the black label. getting good cigars in cuba is very difficult...

Vitasea. Sorry dude...mine are not fake, I know that for sure. I don't know if the bands have changed or not but my cigars aren't that old. Just came over from the island about 7 months ago. And it's not the length but the width of the band that gives it away. Also not the same type font...

these are pictures of the current Partigas i have in my cellar from right to left part series d reserva black band 2000 part series d #4 part series p edition limitad (not released yet) part series p part series d #1 le 2004 part lusitania as you can see a special label the bands measue 17-18...

i thought real cigar smoker did that and the snobs leave them on so everyone can see what they are smoking............:)

all edition limitad and in this case reserva have a secound band on the cigar the same sticker only larger is on the box cover diagionally under the habanos sticker. its another way to spot fakes as both the box and cigar band will be the same. you'll have to remove band as you smoke it because...

i took 6 partagas out of there boxes and all five with the red band measure about 18mm they are the serie d reserva, serie d #4,part p #2,part p #2 edition limtad( a new cigar to be released later this year) and serie d #1 le, the sixth cigar is the lusitania which has its on special band. i...

you know that is the story of my whole life and you picked it up in a heart beat what do you charge for conciling???

your smoking something and it an't tabacco please just throw it away ok, and crush up the leather case so it was never in your position , or better yet give it to someone who has an open mind.

let the fun begin.......:) its really amazing don't get me wrong i think all you guys are great the olde's trying to protect the newbes a great comunity (newbie's probably most are multi zillionares) but i have this perfict sceneralo in my mind(my spelling sucks) we're seting in the hotel...

hey no problem, just keep an open mind.....:)

no i gotall ten but my typing skills a long with my interpatation of cumication in a type written form is pertty primitive...............:(

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i could not agree with you more, last time my cigars were from a small factory south of havana, they wwere not fakes but they were not very good. i have learned from experience that the best are made in the havana factories i have neveer preticapated in a cigar pass and never cheated any one in...

smoked my first one last night with a dewers on the rocks has got to be one of the best cigars i've ever smoked smooth great flavors..wow. was looking for a big roach clip to get the last drag kind a sorry i sent 20 out.............:(

To make amends,from the lousey esplendidos i got stuck with, and sent free samples to a number members on this board. I want to try to establish some creidiablity. i will send one free to the first 20 people who P M me there address. These are currently selling for 1000$ a box of 20 on many web...

lets go back to the original question in the last year or so all heads of ministries in cuba have been replaced with high ranking military officers loyal to the cause. this is in a large part to control all power in cuba on castros death. nothing will change from the present form of...

they were the #1 robustos last year 04 and i agree they earned it had the opportunity to get and smoke the o5 serie d reserva.there were still a few boxes in the r & J factory store beautiful black box but at 480.00 a box in havana and with only 20 sticks to a box,a little pricey for me