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Army Orders Soldiers to Shed Dragon Skin

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Army Orders Soldiers to Shed Dragon Skin or Lose SGLI Death Benefits


By Nathaniel R. Helms


Two deploying soldiers and a concerned mother reported Friday afternoon that the U.S. Army appears to be singling out soldiers who have purchased Pinnacle's Dragon Skin Body Armor for special treatment. The soldiers, who are currently staging for combat operations from a secret location, reported that their commander told them if they were wearing Pinnacle Dragon Skin and were killed their beneficiaries might not receive the death benefits from their $400,000 SGLI life insurance policies. The soldiers were ordered to leave their privately purchased body armor at home or face the possibility of both losing their life insurance benefit and facing disciplinary action.



The soldiers asked for anonymity because they are concerned they will face retaliation for going public with the Army's apparently new directive. At the sources' requests DefenseWatch has also agreed not to reveal the unit at which the incident occured for operational security reasons.



On Saturday morning a soldier affected by the order reported to DefenseWatch that the directive specified that "all" commercially available body armor was prohibited. The soldier said the order came down Friday morning from Headquarters, United States Special Operations Command (HQ, USSOCOM), located at MacDill Air Force Base, Florida. It arrived unexpectedly while his unit was preparing to deploy on combat operations. The soldier said the order was deeply disturbiing to many of the men who had used their own money to purchase Dragon Skin because it will affect both their mobility and ballistic protection.



"We have to be able to move. It (Dragon Skin) is heavy, but it is made so we have mobility and the best ballistic protection out there. This is crazy. And they are threatening us with our benefits if we don't comply." he said.



The soldier reiterated Friday's reports that any soldier who refused to comply with the order and was subsequently killed in action "could" be denied the $400,000 death benefit provided by their SGLI life insurance policy as well as face disciplinary action.



As of this report Saturday morning the Army has not yet responded to a DefenseWatch inquiry.



Recently Dragon Skin became an item of contention between proponents of the Interceptor OTV body armor generally issued to all service members deploying in combat theaters and its growing legion of critics. Critics of the Interceptor OTV system say it is ineffective and inferior to Dragon Skin, as well as several other commercially available body armor systems on the market. Last week DefenseWatch released a secret Marine Corps report that determined that 80% of the 401 Marines killed in Iraq between April 2004 and June 2005 might have been saved if the Interceptor OTV body armor they were wearing was more effective. The Army has declined to comment on the report because doing so could aid the enemy, an Army spokesman has repeatedly said.



A U.S. Army spokesman was not available for comment at the time DW's original report (Friday - 1700 CST) was published. DefenseWatch continues to seek a response from the Army and will post one as soon as it becomes available. Yesterday the DoD released a news story through the Armed Forces News Service that quoted Maj. Gen. Steven Speaks, the Army's director of force development, who countered critical media reports by denying that the U.S. military is behind the curve in providing appropriate force protection gear for troops deployed to Iraq and elsewhere in the global war against terrorism. The New York Tiimes and Washington Post led the bandwagon of mainstream media that capitalized on DefenseWatch's release of the Marine Corps study. Both newspapers released the forensic information the Army and Marines are unwilling to discuss.



"Those headlines entirely miss the point," Speaks said.



The effort to improve body armor "has been a programmatic effort in the case of the Army that has gone on with great intensity for the last five months," he noted.



Speaks' assessment contradicts earlier Army, Marine and DoD statements that indicated as late as last week that the Army was certain there was nothing wrong with Interceptor OTV body armor and that it was and remains the "best body armor in the world."



One of the soldiers who lost his coveted Dragon Skin is a veteran operator. He reported that his commander expressed deep regret upon issuing his orders directing him to leave his Dragon Skin body armor behind. The commander reportedly told his subordinates that he "had no choice because the orders came from very high up" and had to be enforced, the soldier said. Another soldier's story was corroborated by his mother, who helped defray the $6,000 cost of buying the Dragon Skin, she said.



The mother of the soldier, who hails from the Providence, Rhode Island area, said she helped pay for the Dragon Skin as a Christmas present because her son told her it was "so much better" than the Interceptor OTV they expected to be issued when arriving in country for a combat tour.



"He didn't want to use that other stuff," she said. "He told me that if anything happened to him I am supposed to raise hell."



At the time the orders were issued the two soldiers had already loaded their Dragon Skin body armor onto the pallets being used to air freight their gear into the operational theater, the soldiers said. They subsequently removed it pursuant to their orders.



Currently nine U.S. generals stationed in Afghanistan are reportedly wearing Pinnacle Dragon Skin body armor, according to company spokesman Paul Chopra. Chopra, a retired Army chief warrant officer and 20+-year pilot in the famed 160th "Nightstalkers" Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), said his company was merely told the generals wanted to "evaluate" the body armor in a combat environment. Chopra said he did not know the names of the general officers wearing the Dragon Skin.



Pinnacle claims more than 3,000 soldiers and civilians stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan are wearing Dragon Skin body armor, Chopra said. Several months ago DefenseWatch began receiving anecdotal reports from individual soldiers that they were being forced to remove all non-issue gear while in theater, including Dragon Skin body armor, boots, and various kinds of non-issue ancillary equipment.



Last year the DoD, under severe pressure from Congress, authorized a one-time $1,000 reimbursement to soldiers who had purchased civilian equipment to supplement either inadequate or unavailable equipment they needed for combat operations. At the time there was no restriction on what the soldiers could buy as long as it was specifically intended to offer personal protection or further their mission capabilities while in theater.



Nathaniel R. Helms is the editor of DefenseWatch Magazine.
 
Yea... Dragon Skin has been out for awhile and DOD has repeatedly denied them access to provide us with our armor. I've worn Dragon Skin, and yes, it is heavier, but the mobility I had was unbeleivable compared to the Interceptor vest. I'm not sure what the deal is between DOD and Dragon Skin but hopefully things can come to an amicable conclusion so those of us in harms way have the best protection available...
 
Wow, I didn't realize it was that old. One of my Twaron suppliers sent it to me today to read.
 
This is just disturbing. I just don't understand why the Military would not want their soldiers to be protected as best as they can be.
 
You've got to be kidding me!

This is a PROVEN FACT that Pinnacle's Dragon Skin Body Armor is better than the Armed Forces distributed Interceptor OTV body armor?

If so, why in God's name would they prohibit it? The Insurance company that funds the life insurance policies should step in!...it'll save them a ton of money if that Marine report is true.

We citizens of America have to step up to do something...who do we call? We need a phone number to express our outrage to this imbecilic action by our Armed Forces.

If Generals can use it, why can't our family members?
 
Yep this came from the Military

The soldier reiterated Friday's reports that any soldier who refused to comply with the order and was subsequently killed in action "could" be denied the $400,000 death benefit provided by their SGLI life insurance policy as well as face disciplinary action.
 
Because Haliburton doesn't make Dragon Skin? That's why folks downrange can't have it. :p

Okay, snark aside, and having done acquisitions, this is the fault of policies we have in place because too many doushe bags were abusing military sales. It's not about the best product, or even the best value to the military, but it's all about holding to the letter of the law. With congress controlling DoD purse strings like they do, and the way that the entire DoD 5000 series regs (old Federal Acquisition Regulations) are written, we're stuck with a system that acts even more stupid than the people in charge of the system.
 
the commander of a local VFW post here (a Vietnam combat vet) has a son in the infantry in Iraq. His entire post put together enough money to buy each member of his son's squad a set of Dragon skin. They were able to wear it during their first deployment but their most recent deployment they were told by higher to leave it stateside.

Ridiculous :angry:
 
It's about money guys, if the government hasn't contracted for it, they can't have it. It's about money, isn't everything?

...and trust me, if a Soldier is killed in combat, no matter what he/she is wearing...the family will get that SGLI.
 
Fuggin penis envy. I wonder if the same threat came up when ground pounders were scrounging steel plate to beef up HUMVs
 
I saw a report on this on one of the news stations a while back. They even tested both armor systems. I believe the Dragon Skin outperformed the Interceptor most of the tests. I remember one of the military's concerns with Dragon Skin being multiple entries, but the test shows the opposite.


Found it: Better Link The 1st went to the wrong video.
 
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