I used to go to this cigar bar every Friday during this past summer. I always bought my cigars at that place but one time I brought in my own stash and got shut down. They guy wouldn't let me smoke my cigar that I didn't purchase from his establishment. I was pretty pissed off, especially since I've bought an $80.00 round of Johnny Walker Blue Label. It's not like I was just using his place to smoke my stash without making a purchase. Has anyone experienced a similar situation?
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Cigar bars - rules and regulations
- Thread starter Jesuswept
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CoventryCat86
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Nope. That's pretty stupid on the part of the owner particularly in your case since you've bought cigars from him in the past. I rarely patronize or visit cigar shops but when I do, they've NEVER minded me bringing in my own cigars.
kro77
New Member
Kind of silly, one place here in Boston gets around this by charging you 10 bucks for cigar lighting. That seems to be a fair trade off, but if you have purchased alot it should not be a problem I think, but every person can run their own business.
tjm5019
Banned
I think as long as you patronize a cigar bar or cigar shop regularly, they should have no problem with you bringing in a favorite to smoke every once and a while
kro77
New Member
Especially if they do not carry the item. If you are trying to get around their prices because you think they are too high that could be considered rude i guess.
If you spent $80 on a round a drinks and he gave you a hard time about not buying a cigar then you don't need to patronize his business. If you had never been there before maybe I could see he could have a point. But, that's a big maybe so in the long run he loses a long term customer.
Mrepp
To boldly troll where no Troll has trolled before
I gotta agree with everyone else. I frequent my shop every wed and the owner never gave me any problems. In fact when I smoked my big ol indios there he helped me light it.
MichiganM
Padron Whore Extraordinaire
I agree, a cigar business that is going to prosper would want to set up a stable friendship with its clients. Doesn't sound like a friendship there. Maybe this guy is way too concerned with the quick buck.
Jason
Jason
alexgtp
newbie extrodinaire!!
I remember one time last year for the football playoffs we decided to check out this cigar place.
We were told we could hang out in their lounge and order pizaa and stay for the entire day.
Well after we all bought cigars. We hung out in their small ounge and watched the game after the first game the guy hinted to us that we needed to leave. So we left and never returned.
I have no need for a B&M that treats its customers like that.
Its not as if we were taking up space. About 6 f us all purchased 5-10 cigars. And we could of become repeat customers.
Only regret i have is that i did not purchase the GOF's he had in stock..
We were told we could hang out in their lounge and order pizaa and stay for the entire day.
Well after we all bought cigars. We hung out in their small ounge and watched the game after the first game the guy hinted to us that we needed to leave. So we left and never returned.
I have no need for a B&M that treats its customers like that.
Its not as if we were taking up space. About 6 f us all purchased 5-10 cigars. And we could of become repeat customers.
Only regret i have is that i did not purchase the GOF's he had in stock..
Captain Leafheart
Aroused member (still)
Seeing as how you were a regular customer there AND that you just ordered all the booze, I think it was uncalled for that he asked you to leave.
Maybe it wasn't the owner and just some ignorant jerk employee.
If it wasn't the owner, he/she may want to know about the employee's bad form.
Maybe it wasn't the owner and just some ignorant jerk employee.
If it wasn't the owner, he/she may want to know about the employee's bad form.
The Master
New Member
I would ask for the owner and tell him that after ordering an 80 dollar round of drinks I will smoke whatever f#$%cking cigar I want to, and if you don't like it I will take my business elsewhere. Only a complete moron would have busted your balls about this.
yeah, I don't know what his deal was. It just sucks becasue I really enjoyed going to that place every friday. It's a shame becasue other than that it was a pretty perfect place to smoke and relax on a friday night. I'm currently looking for other places in the Detroit area.
fetterjohn
Non-active but active and lurking!
There is a beautiful cogar bar and lounge close to where I live and it has has full liquor license and food permit. Great little place that taught me most of what I needed to know about cigars when I first started. The last time I was in there he hinted at me that all I ever do is come with my own cigar and/or by only one of his smoke and leave (buy a few drinks now and then), but I never paid to join the CLUB! Which, mind you, is $1000 a year to join ($250 two years ago). So I don't go back...not that he isn't a nice guy, but a cigar lounge should be open to everyone, IMHO, not only those who can pay the price.
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CigarAl
Member
Paul (kro77) I know the place in boston you speak of. One of only the few in the town where you can smoke.
While I understand about the lighting fee, they have to have a certian amount of revenue be from "tobacco related sales" to allow smoking, let me tell you what really pisses me off about them.
If you go into to smoke cigarettes and bring your own, which you are allowed to do, you are not charged anything.
I actaully emailed them about this a while ago and got some lame ass answer about about the lighting fee needed to meet the tobacoo revenue minumus stated above. Trying to served the needs of their clients, yada yada yada
I responded to the email they sent me, but did not hear back from them.
If I do visit that place, and its only been a very few times since their email, I always bring my own. What you save in mark up on their over priced selection is well worth the $10 lighting fee if you are with someone or smoking more that one cigar.
This place is much more of an "in" place to be, than a place where we all would rather go and enjoy a smoke. You know the place where a drunk business guy with an expense account thinks its cool blow $20 bucks on $5 cigar for him and his buddies.
I also dont think it is unreasonable for a club to charge a minimal yearly fee. Afterall they have overhead they need to cover.
While I understand about the lighting fee, they have to have a certian amount of revenue be from "tobacco related sales" to allow smoking, let me tell you what really pisses me off about them.
If you go into to smoke cigarettes and bring your own, which you are allowed to do, you are not charged anything.
I actaully emailed them about this a while ago and got some lame ass answer about about the lighting fee needed to meet the tobacoo revenue minumus stated above. Trying to served the needs of their clients, yada yada yada
I responded to the email they sent me, but did not hear back from them.
If I do visit that place, and its only been a very few times since their email, I always bring my own. What you save in mark up on their over priced selection is well worth the $10 lighting fee if you are with someone or smoking more that one cigar.
This place is much more of an "in" place to be, than a place where we all would rather go and enjoy a smoke. You know the place where a drunk business guy with an expense account thinks its cool blow $20 bucks on $5 cigar for him and his buddies.
I also dont think it is unreasonable for a club to charge a minimal yearly fee. Afterall they have overhead they need to cover.
As long as you buy a drink I don't see what the problem is.
I had another bad experience at this local bar that allows cigars but several people complained about me. These girls started hacking that were sitting one table away. I could care less what people think but it did make me feel alienated.
I had another bad experience at this local bar that allows cigars but several people complained about me. These girls started hacking that were sitting one table away. I could care less what people think but it did make me feel alienated.
DevilsMilk
8-5-8, 8-9-8, whatever it takes!
Jesuswept said:
Ask Shiba and Jgohlke how alienated I felt when that little punk came up too me at our last herf and asked that I put out my cigar because it bothered her!!!
Lets see, sitting with three other guys all smoking a cigar, at a cigar shop, outdoor's... She had no brain cells left from her pot smoking...
tjm5019
Banned
I would have asked her if she wanted a drag!DevilsMilk said:Jesuswept said:
Ask Shiba and Jgohlke how alienated I felt when that little punk came up too me at our last herf and asked that I put out my cigar because it bothered her!!!
Lets see, sitting with three other guys all smoking a cigar, at a cigar shop, outdoor's... She had no brain cells left from her pot smoking...
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Pompous Pugs
New Member
Jesuswept said:
Agreed...if you are speeding money there (and a fair amount) to complain about not purchasing a cigar seems somewhat silly, and bad for costumer relations.
From the establishment's point of view, I can understand and imagine that they often get people walking in with their own stash ordering water/diet coke and not spending the needed money per person resturants/bars must make each night.
Would you guys bring a flask into a bar?
But since you put down 80 bucks, they should have realized that you were meeting their needed minimum.
Probably an employee who works by the letter of the law, rather than understanding the heart of the matter.