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Collector's cigars vs. hype cigars

w00ts!te said:
Fuente has his limited sticks...

I am still not completely sold on Tatuaje. The first Tatuajes were released in 2003 and when you compare that to something like Padron, Tats look like babies.

And when I mentioned holidays, I was really meaning any holiday, not just Christmas time.
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*sigh*

Yes, we all know Fuente has his limited sticks. But you said RP can't release anything limited because he rolls so many sticks. Since Fuente rolls more than RP, why is it that Fuente can release limited sticks, but RP can't?

Yes, we all know that the first Tats were released in 2003. But limited releases have nothing to do with history. If you release 1200 of a stick, it's limited, regardless of how long you've been around.

And while you may be talking about "any holiday," I'm pretty sure the OP meant the Christmas holiday season.
Danforz said:
Anyways, it being "that time of year" we're going to begin to see a lot of holiday releases come about from retailers.
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I don't collect consumables. I consume consumables. I'm a glutton and decadence fascinates me.

Doc.
 
Pugman1943 said:
I just must add one maybe almost final remark. You seem to be hung up on increase in value over time.

If you buy them, first of all, they are meant to be smoked, yes, aged for a bit, but smoked; not collected like Picasso etc.

Anyone will tell you, it's only worth what someone will pay, first you have to find a buyer; that being of course that you have stored what the gang is looking for. And no one here is going to pay a collectors rate for that magic cigar. Why, because there are enough folks here that will gift that person if it came right down to it.

My closing argument: buy only what YOU like and will smoke.

I wish you many puffs of pleasure and look forward to your posts and reviews of what you have found.
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Well said, Ed. IMO, if you're looking to buy cigars as a method of financial gain, you're in this hobby for the wrong reasons.

edit to add: I have a hard time plunking $15 down for a single cigar, nevermind what profit someone thinks they've earned by purchasing a "collectable" cigar.
 
Pugman1943 said:
I just must add one maybe almost final remark. You seem to be hung up on increase in value over time.

If you buy them, first of all, they are meant to be smoked, yes, aged for a bit, but smoked; not collected like Picasso etc.

Anyone will tell you, it's only worth what someone will pay, first you have to find a buyer; that being of course that you have stored what the gang is looking for. And no one here is going to pay a collectors rate for that magic cigar. Why, because there are enough folks here that will gift that person if it came right down to it.

My closing argument: buy only what YOU like and will smoke.

I wish you many puffs of pleasure and look forward to your posts and reviews of what you have found.
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From my original post:

Now don't get me wrong. I'm perfectly happy with my Rocky Patel Edge Torpedo at $6 a stick (California price).
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That being said, why deny me the pleasure of enjoying cigars as collectors pieces? I understand, unlike a painting it is a consumable product. I simply prefer to consume it significantly later or potentially gift or trade it at a later time. I have plenty of of my daily smokes: edge, PSD4, etc. and I love those cigars. And its because I love cigars that I do get an enjoyment out of collecting them.

Now lets be specific. What do I mean by collecting? I have a tale of three cigars: Don Ramon Coffin (from the Partagas 150 set), Romeo y Julieta Churchill (from 1974) and first run Tatuaje Brown Label Lancero.

I cherished the tatuje as it was a gift directly from Pete back when he worked in Beverly Hills. I saved that cigar for a good three years till my 1 year anniversary (with my girlfriend) arose and smoked it then. Prior to that, I was "collecting" it. A few years back, I noticed a lady requesting a Don Ramon coffin on this very exact forum for her husband's anniversary. I sold it to her. And the Romeo y Julieta, well, I couldn't bring my novice pallete to smoke such a treasure so I gifted to my uncle. He smoked it at his nephew's wedding.

I think I've made my point. And if we are going to go by "buy what you smoke" well truth be told I have a ton of "daily cigars" that I have even yet to get to. I'd be willing to say excess and cigar forum member aren't mutually exclusive ;)

Daniel
 
I'm not sure what special releases I'll be chasing this year. I guess I am getting lazy, but I probably won't get any unless a few fall into my lap. The two limited I would probably buy are the Hemingway maduros and the Anejos. These are still reasonably price IMO, and are always a tasty cigar.

A lot of the other LEs don't seem to stand out enough to justify the higher price tags. After smoking a few of these "holy grails", I was almost always not disappointed in the cigar, but often thought, "I'd rather of had two Anejos instead."

I started out trying to get my hands on all the HTF stuff and collect them, but later decided I rather have a box of something I would actually smoke that the 6-8 of the HTF cigars in my "collection". I've got nothing against someone putting together a collection.

God knows I have plenty of comic books, baseball cards, etc. from the younin' days... and that is exactly what I liken a lot of the chasing today. Does everyone really like the Drac's and Boris' that much they have to get thier hands on them to smoke? Or is it the thrill of the hunt in actually having a box stashed in the humi? Either way, I don't care. If it feels good, do it.
 
Satchmo said:
I'm not sure what special releases I'll be chasing this year. I guess I am getting lazy, but I probably won't get any unless a few fall into my lap. The two limited I would probably buy are the Hemingway maduros and the Anejos. These are still reasonably price IMO, and are always a tasty cigar.

A lot of the other LEs don't seem to stand out enough to justify the higher price tags. After smoking a few of these "holy grails", I was almost always not disappointed in the cigar, but often thought, "I'd rather of had two Anejos instead."

I started out trying to get my hands on all the HTF stuff and collect them, but later decided I rather have a box of something I would actually smoke that the 6-8 of the HTF cigars in my "collection". I've got nothing against someone putting together a collection.

God knows I have plenty of comic books, baseball cards, etc. from the younin' days... and that is exactly what I liken a lot of the chasing today. Does everyone really like the Drac's and Boris' that much they have to get thier hands on them to smoke? Or is it the thrill of the hunt in actually having a box stashed in the humi? Either way, I don't care. If it feels good, do it.
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I agree with your point on the Fuentes. I used to try to collect the holiday Fuentes till I realized the maduros are damn tasty and I really don't expect any of these to be a collectors piece. And they aren't super hard to find.
 
tone-ny said:
Wow, no one told me we had wizards here! The next thing I'll learn is that we have fairies too! Where's the pixie dust?
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Anthem is a fairy and also that guy that's always asking the question "Did I win?"
...or so I hear :whistling: :laugh:
 
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