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been reading about this fuel with 15% corn juice, is it any good? see where it can save up to $.60 a gallon. anyone? :D
 
I'd say look in your owner's manual and make absolutely sure your car is rated for 15% ethanol before trying it.
 
sack said:
been reading about this fuel with 15% corn juice, is it any good? see where it can save up to $.60 a gallon. anyone? :D
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where do ya get it?
 
google e85, they have their own website promoting the fuel, also a state be state list of where you can get it. reason i asked is my taurus has a symbol of an ear of corn right by the gas cap, which means it's ethanol ready. been using regular with the taurus and was wondering whether that would affect anything.
 
sack said:
google e85, they have their own website promoting the fuel, also a state be state list of where you can get it. reason i asked is my taurus has a symbol of an ear of corn right by the gas cap, which means it's ethanol ready. been using regular with the taurus and was wondering whether that would affect anything.
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I wonder if my mazda would take it. what year is your taurus?
 
Will I hurt a gasoline-only vehicle if I use E85?
Yes. Longer-term use of E85 in gasoline-only vehicles may cause damage because of the incompatibility of the alcohol fuel with the parts in gasoline-only engines. Performance and emissions will also be compromised.
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Just found that from there website... Doesn't sound safe, although if your filled up with regular gas maybe 1/3 times you filled up with e85, it might work out. Not sure though.
 
like i said, your vehicle has to be ethanol ready. my taurus is a 2001. ;)
 
I have heard of such thing,
Here is in Indiana they have soybean diesel. It some real country type of stuff.
I do not know much about it. My father in Law has a ranch in Southern Indiana and those farmers down they are all about it.
Then again they are always saying GET ER DONE!

TonyDogs ;)
 
It's Bio-Diesel. So far I heard good things about it. Comes 100% and then mixed with #2 Diesel at different percentages. So far the only draw back has been refineries for making it. It's in a catch 22 right now. Supply is low because ability to make it is low which isn't making a demand for it. If they can make enough of it so that more people see it and the price drops where it's cheap than #2 it might catch on.
 
I ran a tank through my Mazda B3000 with the Flex-Fuel motor last year...performance was every bit as good as with regular unleaded, but the mileage suffered quite a bit. Normal highway with unleaded was about 21...with the E85 it dropped down to about 13. Do the math and youll see its not any more cost effective.
 
I been filling up with 10% ethanol gas for years. works good in the minivan, burns cleaner and removes any water in the tank. Here in Canada, they have a disclaimer on all pumps, "may contain up to 10% ethanol"... i have never had problems but may want to look into the 15% EtOH if the car is a newer model.
 
Diesel Grinch said:
It's Bio-Diesel. So far I heard good things about it. Comes 100% and then mixed with #2 Diesel at different percentages. So far the only draw back has been refineries for making it. It's in a catch 22 right now. Supply is low because ability to make it is low which isn't making a demand for it. If they can make enough of it so that more people see it and the price drops where it's cheap than #2 it might catch on.
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From what I've seen on the car and truck shows, Bio-Diesel is made from used cooking oil (veg) and prepared with Lye and racing ethanol (usually in your garage, they sell the kits pretty cheap). You do not mix it with any other diesel fuel, it works straight out in a diesel engine - although you can convert a regular car with another kit. Total cost is around 90¢ per gallon usually, so it's definitely not the same as e85 if this stuff is only saving about 60¢ per gallon.
 
Robbie that's not really the same thing as bio-diesel. I think it's call VOS. I was thinking of converting my truck to do this but it's to much work. By the time I factored in the cost of my time it was the same as #2 Diesel. What they do is this. You get all that used veggy oil from restaurant and then filter it real well. After which you have a second tank in your truck which has more filters that you fill with this filter oil. You start your truck with #2 diesel the switch to the Veggy oil. Depending on what the oil was used for you smell like fries going down the road. And then before you shut down you switch back to #2 diesel for a bit.

Bio-Diesel isn't used and comes right out pump.
 
Diesel Grinch said:
Robbie that's not really the same thing as bio-diesel. I think it's call VOS. I was thinking of converting my truck to do this but it's to much work. By the time I factored in the cost of my time it was the same as #2 Diesel. What they do is this. You get all that used veggy oil from restaurant and then filter it real well. After which you have a second tank in your truck which has more filters that you fill with this filter oil. You start your truck with #2 diesel the switch to the Veggy oil. Depending on what the oil was used for you smell like fries going down the road. And then before you shut down you switch back to #2 diesel for a bit.

Bio-Diesel isn't used and comes right out pump.
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Hmm, the episode of Trucks I watched, they did what I said - no extra tank, no extra filters, no converting the truck. You prepare it in a giant vat that is part of the kit (the one they had did up to 40 gallons). He ran the truck, a Dodge pickup, not too old, straight off Bio-Diesel (as they called they entire show). Stacy he said he noticed a slight mileage bump as well (and it smelled like french fries too :p), and they mentioned you can go back and forth with regular fuel without any problems.

I'm beginning to see why the whole idea is not taking off - no standard way of doing it yet. Too many ways of doing this ensures major incompatibilities, and that nobody can just take a long drive and fill up anywhere.

Edited to add link to show description - If I remember later, I'll try to find the details.
 
Did a little looking and thats a third way of using veggy oil. I just checked one of my diesel sites and a guy from texas is doing this. I like option 1 at the pump with no work.
 
I read up on E85 at E85.com (I think that is URL). It lists autos by manufacturer that are able to use it. It has to have a special computer program, etc. and special engine changes (probably gasket related).

Site said an E85 vehicle will get better mileage on E85 and worse when not using E85.

I have two stations with it within 20 miles of home. It is about .40 less but wil ruin your nonE85 vehicle quickly.
 
supposedly these people (e85) are in an expansion mode. i'm waiting for them to build close to my home. sure is the right time! ;)
 
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