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SamClemmons
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Oh I dunno... the guys' right leg is missing.
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other1
Cigarpassaholic. Mmm.. cigarpassahol.
Is this real? I'm not sure I believe a bow would kill a gator that big. There was a news story this week about a gator that is alive swimming around a pond in FL with a butchers knife stabbed into it's head down to the hilt.
rknicker
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It's a lot harder to shoot one with a bow than a crossbow, I can tell you that much.
and whatever it's hanging on looks photochopped.
and whatever it's hanging on looks photochopped.
Allofus123
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Photoshop!
I believe most states regulate gator hunting... I know Texas does. There are only so many permits given and it is derived from population counts. Trust me when I tell there are plenty. Most people think they're endangered..... I know my Florida brothers know different also.
Actually, the way a gator is harvested is not much of a sport at all. You take a big hook, similar to a very large shark fishing hook, and slap some raw chicken on the hook. You then take a stick and wedge it into the side of the canal, river, bayou etc. You want the stick out over the waters edge so you can tie the hook and line off the end to dangle over the water. You don't want to hang it too close to the water as this will most likely hook a small gator. Hang it a good 3 to 4 foot above the water so only larger gators can get to it. The gator will rise up out of the water and grab the chicken (and hook) and as long as you have the other end secured good you'll have a gator when you return to check the line. Any ethical gator hunter will tell you that you set your lines the night before and check them the next morning.
Oh, did I tell you that the gator will not be dead yet? LOL! If you hook a gator you now have a pissed off gator on the other end. When you approach the area you will see your line from the bank going into the water. The gator will be on the bottom and you just pull him up. Of course the gator will prob have other idea's. How they dispatch the gator once he surfaces is up to the hunter but I found two quick pops with a 45 to the head does the trick quickly and a bit more logical then some of the other ways I've seen people want to brag about.
I believe most states regulate gator hunting... I know Texas does. There are only so many permits given and it is derived from population counts. Trust me when I tell there are plenty. Most people think they're endangered..... I know my Florida brothers know different also.
Actually, the way a gator is harvested is not much of a sport at all. You take a big hook, similar to a very large shark fishing hook, and slap some raw chicken on the hook. You then take a stick and wedge it into the side of the canal, river, bayou etc. You want the stick out over the waters edge so you can tie the hook and line off the end to dangle over the water. You don't want to hang it too close to the water as this will most likely hook a small gator. Hang it a good 3 to 4 foot above the water so only larger gators can get to it. The gator will rise up out of the water and grab the chicken (and hook) and as long as you have the other end secured good you'll have a gator when you return to check the line. Any ethical gator hunter will tell you that you set your lines the night before and check them the next morning.
Oh, did I tell you that the gator will not be dead yet? LOL! If you hook a gator you now have a pissed off gator on the other end. When you approach the area you will see your line from the bank going into the water. The gator will be on the bottom and you just pull him up. Of course the gator will prob have other idea's. How they dispatch the gator once he surfaces is up to the hunter but I found two quick pops with a 45 to the head does the trick quickly and a bit more logical then some of the other ways I've seen people want to brag about.
other1
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They aren't endangered in FL but it's still against the law to harm one without a permit. I do think they have started giving out limited hunting licenses because they have become so common.
MiamiCubano
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That was an amazing story. Just goes to show you. Never really knew quite what that meant, but I figured if there were ever a time I should use "just goes to show you," it was now.other1 said:
jaxstraww
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Pretty big into hunting and fishing out this way. Of course we have no "gators" in Pa. Someone touched on it above. Until this year only individuals with disabilities got to use crossbows. Meaning if your crippled (in a wheelchair for instance) you could get pushed out in a camo wheelchair and sit pretty waiting for a deer to run your way in a field. Now a compound bow 20 feet in the air after you called in daddy buck is a feat. Not a point and click device. This gator was harvested no doubt on a private "farm". Here we can pay between a few hundred to a few thousand and hunt on "farms". Here they have animals released on fenced property and you go hunting. Ghey is what I say. No sport at all. I mean thats part of hunting. You against the prey. Just got back from Mexico. Saw a bullfight last wend. and I knew what to expect. But you had to feel for the bastard 20 minutes in after being piked and then speared three times prior to the matador even getting involved. I say let the bull in there fresh and see if he can do the deed with just his sword. You bleed it out to its half dead and then stab it? Expect me to clap? Your a fuggin coward. Well I'm thinking outside the box. There are a few out there saying well a high powered rifle against a buck is the same thing. I say no its not. You have an objective and its done. Killing something by torturing it for a bit or hunting it inside a fenced in yard is not the same as strapping up and going off to the hunting cabin. Harvesting cheapens the allure of "real" hunting. Going to the cabin, firing up some smokes with brews and exchanging stories. Anything less, well is not even worth writing about.
txmatt
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I enjoy eating gator tail meat. As you would expect, it tastest like chicken.golfgar said:
Talk to Joe M. about that, he likes tail I understand.... :sign:
Allofus123
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First, IMO, the above photo is a photoshop creation... but.... for the sake of argumentjaxstraww said:
lets say its real.Why do you say there's no doubt it was harvested on a "farm"?
jaxstraww
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That looks as marshy as my back yard. Far from being the Keys or otherwise. Unless that big bastard walked up and said shoot me with an arrow I doubt you could even nail a wild gator with one. Hence I think it would have been in a private farm. Just conjecture but I'm not sure those are even waders or boots on the guy.
At the end of the day it may be a photoshop job. That thing would have to way over 1000 pounds and cherry picking it on a tree and not a crane would be a feat in itself.
At the end of the day it may be a photoshop job. That thing would have to way over 1000 pounds and cherry picking it on a tree and not a crane would be a feat in itself.
gawntrail
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I agree with you.jaxstraww said:
I also think there should be a special tag you can pay for. It would be fairly expensive and limited, probably $50,000 per, with a lottery drawing for 1200
tags. The hunting region would be an island in the Carribean, Central America, or somewhere in the South Pacific.
It would be inhabited by criminals sentenced to death from the US. There would be a small airport and sea port, controlled by the Military. The Hunting Club would reside on the commanding bluffs overlooking the entire island. The adjacent golf course would be world class and included in the package.
You would be welcome for a 1 week safari. Armed with a lever action 30/30, and a vintage single action Colt .45, you would be grouped in 3s with a guide. The criminals would also be armed. Adorned with mausers and enfields, this would be an adventure to remember. Not for the faint of heart. A T-shirt and trophy photos would be life long memories of your stay.
You would be helping to rid our country of its death row expenses, and it would generate a profit. Win-Win situation if you ask me.
Now, that would be worth shimmying through the boonies for.
M. Gipson
jaxstraww
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Did I see this movie?
I hear what your saying. I see our gator picture leading to a bigger debate. Where did I put my mouse eating popcorn picture.
So how does everyone feel when our tax dollars goes and feeds thousands of rapists and murderers?
I hear what your saying. I see our gator picture leading to a bigger debate. Where did I put my mouse eating popcorn picture.
So how does everyone feel when our tax dollars goes and feeds thousands of rapists and murderers?
gawntrail
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But, the movie had the hunted just running for their lives. Not sporting if you ask me.jaxstraww said:
And as far as the money goes, this is my personal belief;
The accused has the right to a speedy trial, legal representation, and the right of appeal, gauranteed (sp?) by the law. The general public (footing the bill for said rights) should also receive reciprocity:
The right to expedient execution of sentencing.
Of course, after the appeal process has been exausted. I say a 24 month period of time is more than enough. Convicted felon has 24 months to win 1 of 4 appeals. On the second anniversary date, he gets shipped to the island.
Just my 2 cents.
And yeah, you are damn right..........I'd pony up the $50K in a heart beat
M. Gipson
Allofus123
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LOL, yea, I'll have to go with the photoshop but for other reasoning.jaxstraww said:
You can most definently take a gator with a crossbow.... (if legal) trust me. I've seen a gator dispatched with a compond bow. It wasn't pretty and took 4 shots but the end result was the same. Shoot it between the eyes and its over. We can discard it not being marshy because, if its real (and thats a big if), we have no idea where the animal was taken. We've got gators on our duck lease and its not unusual for them to be bathing in the sun in fields within 100 yards.
Anyway, just thought there was a bit of speculating there.
On another note, last year on the lease there were two ducklings swimming across one of the ponds. They had pretty much made it out to about the middle when we saw what we'd call a small gator (3/4ft) on a direct path heading towards them. The ducklings were too far across already to turn around and started angling to the side away from the gator. From our view it was pretty obvious to us that we were about to witness a blood bath because the gator had the angle and speed and would surely overtake them. About the time the gator got not more than a few feet away from them the mother duck flew in and landed to the side of the gator and started flapping its wings in the water making a hugh comotion. Damn if that gator didn't turn towards the mother duck and she continued to flap her wings in the water while swimming the other way leading the gator away. The ducklings made it to the other side and once the mother duck had the gator back out in the middle of the pond she flew off.
Quite a thing to witness.BACCHUS
Recovering Non-Skier
LMAO! Matt, you are missing the point. Look at all the exquisite wallets, shoes and belts hanging in that tree. A dead gator is a thing of beauty.Matt R said:How friggin' hard is it to shoot an alligator with a bow?? I know these things are kinda fast, but one this big never had a chance against this guy. Is that what hunting is really about??
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