Getting Your Feet Wet Pass #4

ironpeddler

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Kxthor911 said:
 
 

OK so here at work tonight I'm on my phone looking at the cigar list. I would like to take the opus angel share (17.44). I would like to replace this with a viaje double edge sword 2. My questions are these - the original cigar that was taken for the angle share was a double edge sword. Was it the first or the second? Also only smoke Inn had the double edge sword 2 in Stock and the price comes to 18.62 a stick. I looked up the msrp of the cigar and that is 18.63 which is in the 7.5 percent range.
Please forgive any typos. I'm on my phone because we are not allowed Internet at work and I'm trying to be proactive with the pass to get it out Tuesday. Thanks guys.
 
I believe it was the first.
So would this put and take be OK?
 


 
When you get home and near a computer, poke around the Internet and do a little more research on the DES. Then we'll see where we're at with the trade.

Anyone else have an opinion?  :whistling:
 

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I found that I paid 17.63 a stick when I ordered my order from Atlantic the box was 334.95 from them. My personal opinion is since the Double Edge Sword 2 is actually no longer made its a good swap. The Angels Share are rare sticks as well but are made every year. Since I have quite a few of the Viaje's left I do not have a problem making the swap but there are more senior members here that might have an issue with it. That's why I'm asking. :). I'm on my PC now but getting ready to work out a bit and get ready for work tonight. I will be looking at the list and seeing what else I can swap out tonight while at work (for my other puts and takes that is.) Thanks
 

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ironpeddler said:
 
 

 

OK so here at work tonight I'm on my phone looking at the cigar list. I would like to take the opus angel share (17.44). I would like to replace this with a viaje double edge sword 2. My questions are these - the original cigar that was taken for the angle share was a double edge sword. Was it the first or the second? Also only smoke Inn had the double edge sword 2 in Stock and the price comes to 18.62 a stick. I looked up the msrp of the cigar and that is 18.63 which is in the 7.5 percent range.
Please forgive any typos. I'm on my phone because we are not allowed Internet at work and I'm trying to be proactive with the pass to get it out Tuesday. Thanks guys.
 
I believe it was the first.
So would this put and take be OK?
 


 
When you get home and near a computer, poke around the Internet and do a little more research on the DES. Then we'll see where we're at with the trade.

Anyone else have an opinion?  :whistling:
 


 
http://www.seriouscigars.com/Viaje_Cigars_7717_details

318.50/19 = 16.76

http://www.smokeinn.com/eshop/Viaje-CE-Double-Edged-Sword-2.html

353.95/19 = 18.62

$17.69 Final price
 
Price wise, looks good to me.
 

ironpeddler

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Kxthor911 said:
I found that I paid 17.63 a stick when I ordered my order from Atlantic the box was 334.95 from them. My personal opinion is since the Double Edge Sword 2 is actually no longer made its a good swap. The Angels Share are rare sticks as well but are made every year. Since I have quite a few of the Viaje's left I do not have a problem making the swap but there are more senior members here that might have an issue with it. That's why I'm asking. :). I'm on my PC now but getting ready to work out a bit and get ready for work tonight. I will be looking at the list and seeing what else I can swap out tonight while at work (for my other puts and takes that is.) Thanks
 
 
whylieineedacigar said:
 
 


 

 

OK so here at work tonight I'm on my phone looking at the cigar list. I would like to take the opus angel share (17.44). I would like to replace this with a viaje double edge sword 2. My questions are these - the original cigar that was taken for the angle share was a double edge sword. Was it the first or the second? Also only smoke Inn had the double edge sword 2 in Stock and the price comes to 18.62 a stick. I looked up the msrp of the cigar and that is 18.63 which is in the 7.5 percent range.
Please forgive any typos. I'm on my phone because we are not allowed Internet at work and I'm trying to be proactive with the pass to get it out Tuesday. Thanks guys.
 
I believe it was the first.
So would this put and take be OK?
 


 
When you get home and near a computer, poke around the Internet and do a little more research on the DES. Then we'll see where we're at with the trade.

Anyone else have an opinion?  :whistling:
 


 
http://www.seriouscigars.com/Viaje_Cigars_7717_details

318.50/19 = 16.76

http://www.smokeinn.com/eshop/Viaje-CE-Double-Edged-Sword-2.html

353.95/19 = 18.62

$17.69 Final price
 
Price wise, looks good to me.
 


 
Good research Eickel....in light of those numbers, let's call it good trade Nick.  :thumbs:
 

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Gary, thanks. Guys, I'm going to one more day in shipping this, sorry. Worked last night, today/tonight is my first day off in 8 days. I work a rotating shift (12 hour days). I will be going through the pass here in a couple of hours and posting the rest of my puts and takes. Sorry for the delay but work tends to get in the way sometimes.
 

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Kxthor911 said:
Gary, thanks. Guys, I'm going to one more day in shipping this, sorry. Worked last night, today/tonight is my first day off in 8 days. I work a rotating shift (12 hour days). I will be going through the pass here in a couple of hours and posting the rest of my puts and takes. Sorry for the delay but work tends to get in the way sometimes.
 
Take all the time you need brother.... As long as you get it done by 3:13 PM today of course :laugh:
 

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whylieineedacigar said:
Gary, thanks. Guys, I'm going to one more day in shipping this, sorry. Worked last night, today/tonight is my first day off in 8 days. I work a rotating shift (12 hour days). I will be going through the pass here in a couple of hours and posting the rest of my puts and takes. Sorry for the delay but work tends to get in the way sometimes.
 
Take all the time you need brother.... As long as you get it done by 3:13 PM today of course :laugh:
Always a smartass in the crew lmao ;). I think the difference here is who is not the smartass lmao.
 

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Kxthor911 said:
Gary, thanks. Guys, I'm going to one more day in shipping this, sorry. Worked last night, today/tonight is my first day off in 8 days. I work a rotating shift (12 hour days). I will be going through the pass here in a couple of hours and posting the rest of my puts and takes. Sorry for the delay but work tends to get in the way sometimes.
 
No worries Nick...take your time, we all understand. An extra day or two isn't going to kill us.
 
Open the box, take in the aroma, check out the different cigars you may have never seen before, and then make your selections. In my Pass experiences, when you check out all the cigars, sometimes a few stand out out in person that didn't on paper. Remember, cigars are like women's breasts, you need to touch & feel them in order to get more familiar with their finest traits. 
 
Enjoy the experience brother!  :thumbs:
 

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Kxthor911 said:
 
 

Gary, thanks. Guys, I'm going to one more day in shipping this, sorry. Worked last night, today/tonight is my first day off in 8 days. I work a rotating shift (12 hour days). I will be going through the pass here in a couple of hours and posting the rest of my puts and takes. Sorry for the delay but work tends to get in the way sometimes.
 
Take all the time you need brother.... As long as you get it done by 3:13 PM today of course :laugh:
Always a smartass in the crew lmao ;). I think the difference here is who is not the smartass lmao.
 


 
:laugh: :laugh: :D
 

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Ok guys just sorted through all the cigars. They look really nice all laid out across my table. The humidity of the box looked good and all the boveda packs inside the ziplock bags are in good shape. Will be posting my puts and takes soon.
 

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First couple of puts and takes!
 
Take 
 
AF Opus X Angel Share
 
Put 
 
Viaje Double Edge Sword 2
 
_____________________
 
Take 
 
Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda - 8.97
 
Put 
 
Viaje Antidote
 
Smoke Inn - 5 pack 44.75/5 = 8.95
holts - na
ci - na
serious cigar - 213.50/24 = 8.89
atlantic cigar - 214.00/24 = 8.91
 
average = 8.91
 
________________________
 
Take
 
Don Pepin Blue Fundadore - 7.70
 
Put
 
Paul Garmirian Symphony 20 Bombones Extra
 
Atlantic cigar 198/25 = 7.92
PG website msrp - 220/25 = 8.80
 
average 8.36 (+/- .41)
Its showing that the cigar must be at least 7.95 but I would like to try this cigar anyways. Can this exception be made?
 
___________________________________
Still working on others just wanted to let y'all know I'm working on this now.
 

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Ok here are the rest guys...
 
Take 
 
Herrera Esteli Piramide - 9.72 (+/- .48)
 
Put
 
Viaje Super Lance (My favorite Viaje, these are awesome with 6-8 months)
 
Serious cigars - 242.95/25 = 9.71
atlantic cigar - 234.00/25 = 9.36
ci - na
famous - na
holts - na
smoke inn - 5 pack 54.00/5 = 10.80
 
average - 9.95
 
__________________________________
 
Take 
 
Padron 1926 #6 Maduro - 12.38 (+/- .92)
 
Put
 
Paul Garmirian Symphony 20 Short Robusto (PG cigars are amazing)
 
atlantic cigar - 292.50/25 = 11.70
PG website msrp - 325/25 = 13
holts - na
ci - na
famous - na
 
average - 12.35
 
______________________________
 
Take
 
Little Gomez Diez Lusitano - 11.14 (+/- .83)
 
Put
 
Illusione Ultra #1 (these should have about 18 months on them by now)
 
smoke inn - 216.00/20 = 10.80
serious cigars 208.50/20 = 10.40
 
average - 10.60
 

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"Remember, cigars are like women's breasts, you need to touch & feel them in order to get more familiar with their finest traits."
 
Really ?? Lmao, worst analogy ever for something that you cut and smoke to develop familiarity. 
 

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Cparker said:
"Remember, cigars are like women's breasts, you need to touch & feel them in order to get more familiar with their finest traits."
 
Really ?? Lmao, worst analogy ever for something that you cut and smoke to develop familiarity.
Oh, but I do so love the touch and feel part.
 

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Kxthor911, you didn't happen to run across the missing El Centurion in the pass did you? It was #63 and I am 99.9% sure (only a Sith deals in absolutes) that it was in there when I sent it along.

Cheers
 

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llwydtp said:
Kxthor911, you didn't happen to run across the missing El Centurion in the pass did you? It was #63 and I am 99.9% sure (only a Sith deals in absolutes) that it was in there when I sent it along.

Cheers
 
I was wondering the same thing. A cigar can't just disappear and be unaccounted for. Even if an honest mistake was made along the way we need to at least try to figure out who made it and for that person to come forward because obviously they have the cigar in their possession. If someone took a wrong cigar by mistake for their puts then that would be a different story.
 

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Kxthor911 said:
First couple of puts and takes!
 
Take 
 
AF Opus X Angel Share
 
Put 
 
Viaje Double Edge Sword 2...GOOD
 
_____________________
 
Take 
 
Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda - 8.97
 
Put 
 
Viaje Antidote
 
Smoke Inn - 5 pack 44.75/5 = 8.95
holts - na
ci - na
serious cigar - 213.50/24 = 8.89
atlantic cigar - 214.00/24 = 8.91
 
average = 8.91....we don't generally use 5-pack pricing because it's too high. But being so close in price to the box prices, let's call it GOOD
 
________________________
 
Take
 
Don Pepin Blue Fundadore - 7.70
 
Put
 
Paul Garmirian Symphony 20 Bombones Extra
 
Atlantic cigar 198/25 = 7.92
PG website msrp - 220/25 = 8.80
 
average 8.36 (+/- .41)
Its showing that the cigar must be at least 7.95 but I would like to try this cigar anyways. Can this exception be made? YES, but this one is a little shaky with the sources used. Find a few others outside our normal ones.
 
___________________________________

Still working on others just wanted to let y'all know I'm working on this now.
 
 
Kxthor911 said:
Ok here are the rest guys...
 
Take 
 
Herrera Esteli Piramide - 9.72 (+/- .48)
 
Put
 
Viaje Super Lance (My favorite Viaje, these are awesome with 6-8 months)
 
Serious cigars - 242.95/25 = 9.71
atlantic cigar - 234.00/25 = 9.36
ci - na
famous - na
holts - na
smoke inn - 5 pack 54.00/5 = 10.80...$250.00/25=$10.00 As per phone call to them.
 
average - 9.95...again, we don't generally use 5-pack pricing, too high. Go outside the vendors Brian mentioned to get some more box pricing if possible. GOOD
 
__________________________________
 
Take 
 
Padron 1926 #6 Maduro - 12.38 (+/- .92)
 
Put
 
Paul Garmirian Symphony 20 Short Robusto (PG cigars are amazing)
 
atlantic cigar - 292.50/25 = 11.70
PG website msrp - 325/25 = 13
holts - na
ci - na
famous - na
 
average - 12.35...the PG website is all MSRP. Can you find alternative sources outside our normal ones? 
 
______________________________
 
Take
 
Little Gomez Diez Lusitano - 11.14 (+/- .83)
 
Put
 
Illusione Ultra #1 (these should have about 18 months on them by now)
 
smoke inn - 216.00/20 = 10.80
serious cigars 208.50/20 = 10.40
 
average - 10.60...GOOD
 
Nice job so far Nick...just tune it up a bit as I mentioned above. 

Cparker said:
"Remember, cigars are like women's breasts, you need to touch & feel them in order to get more familiar with their finest traits."
 
Really ?? Lmao, worst analogy ever for something that you cut and smoke to develop familiarity. 
 
More of a tactile thing Chip...based solely on the pre-cut ritual. Now the smoking part, that involves lips and....  :whistling:  

whylieineedacigar said:
 
Kxthor911, you didn't happen to run across the missing El Centurion in the pass did you? It was #63 and I am 99.9% sure (only a Sith deals in absolutes) that it was in there when I sent it along.

Cheers
 
I was wondering the same thing. A cigar can't just disappear and be unaccounted for. Even if an honest mistake was made along the way we need to at least try to figure out who made it and for that person to come forward because obviously they have the cigar in their possession. If someone took a wrong cigar by mistake for their puts then that would be a different story.
 
 
Guys...it is what it is. We can't start speculating at this point. 
 

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Paul Garmirian Symphony 20 Bombones Extra - jackswartz has them for 198 a box. Right in line with Atlantic pricing.


Paul Garmirian Symphony 20 short robusto - Jackswartz has them for 292.50. Right in line with atlantic.

I was having some problems finding sources for PGs since they are kinda rare cigars and the 20s are limited editions.
whylieineedacigar said:
Kxthor911, you didn't happen to run across the missing El Centurion in the pass did you? It was #63 and I am 99.9% sure (only a Sith deals in absolutes) that it was in there when I sent it along.
Cheers
 
I was wondering the same thing. A cigar can't just disappear and be unaccounted for. Even if an honest mistake was made along the way we need to at least try to figure out who made it and for that person to come forward because obviously they have the cigar in their possession. If someone took a wrong cigar by mistake for their puts then that would be a different story.
I laid all the cigars out in order by the numbers on the list. I didn't see number 63. I will look again before I send it off.
 

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Kxthor911 said:
 

Kxthor911, you didn't happen to run across the missing El Centurion in the pass did you? It was #63 and I am 99.9% sure (only a Sith deals in absolutes) that it was in there when I sent it along.
Cheers
 
I was wondering the same thing. A cigar can't just disappear and be unaccounted for. Even if an honest mistake was made along the way we need to at least try to figure out who made it and for that person to come forward because obviously they have the cigar in their possession. If someone took a wrong cigar by mistake for their puts then that would be a different story.
I laid all the cigars out in order by the numbers on the list. I didn't see number 63. I will look again before I send it off.
 


 
I did the same and took pictures just in case. I looked everywhere and could not find #63. :(
 
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