Getting Your Feet Wet Pass #4

ironpeddler

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Cparker said:
Pass has landed today. Humidity is 73%, Temperature 63 degrees. I inventoried the cigars and all are accounted for (absent the Centurion). The box has seen its better days and the corners are losing rigidity. I will replace with a new shipping box (of course I had the perfect box I threw away on Saturday).
 
Here are my Puts and Takes. The price difference is calculated relative to my cost in relation to the cigar I propose taking. Contacted Theron and he is ready to receive the pass when shipped. Really disappointed Delicia did not show up with the pass.
 
[SIZE=18pt]Puts                          Takes                                  Delta [/SIZE][SIZE=18pt]( to my cost )[/SIZE]
 
Cain  Daytona 654T --$5.64           Nica Rustica El Brujito $5.72     (#9)                     +.08
 
Smoke Inn- 116.50/24 = $4.85
Holts- 144.95/24= $6.04
CI- 144.99/24=$6.04
 
Illusione Holy Lance - $8.74            La Riqueza Belicoso $8.73      (#10)                       -.01
 
Smoke Inn – 229.95/25 = $9.20
Holts- N/A
CI-191.99/25 =$7.68
Serious Cigars -233.75/25 =9.35
 
JD Howard  Res. HR46- = $7.65        PG Symphony 20 Bombones 7.92    (#69)          +.27
 
Smoke Inn-183.95/24 = 7.66
Holts-182.95/24 = $7.62
CI- $183.99/24 = 7.67
 
Cuvee 151 Maduro Robusto = $4.78   El Rey Del Mundo Robusto 4.33     (#61)          -.27
 
Smoke Inn- 84.95/12 = $7.07
Holts-N/A
Cigar International-29.99/12 = $2.49...don't use the 'Sale Price' on this cigar, their regular price of $80.68 should be used
Serious Cigars-N/A
Famous Smoke – N/A
LINK for NH Cigars @ $85.99 a box...we'll consider this source in the calculation process. 
 
Davidoff Nicaraugua Diadema = $17.00     Viaje DE Sword 2  $17.69      (#67)             +.69
 
Smoke Inn- N/A (This vitola)
Holts – 204.06/12
CI - $204.06/12
Superior- $203.95/12
 
Warped La Colmena No. 44 = $13.04         Liga Privada 09  $13.60         (#19)              +.54
 
Smoke Inn- N/A
Holts – N/A
CI - $129.99/10 = $12.99
Superior- N/A
Famous Smoke Shoppe $130.99/10 = $13.10
Atlantic Cigars – 130.50/10 = $13.05
 
Chip...great job brother! 
 
One thing, recalculate the Cuvee 151 Robusto and select a different cigar as your TAKE using my suggestions above. 
 
Guys, while we really want to stick to the vendors that Brian recommended in the outset of the Pass, when it comes to an older cigar that is out of production or a cigar with limited distribution...go outside those vendors and always try to come up with 3 sources to set your PUT values. Post whatever you find and we'll discuss it as a group. Also, please don't use temporary sale pricing to calculate values, it creates a false value for that cigar that can't be substantiated once the sale has ended.  
 

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Gary,
 
Will do. I will recalculate and post revised P/T tonight.
 
Best 
 
Chip
 
BTW, if Delicia needs the gate code to my place, have her PM me.
 

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Well, was able to finish quicker than I thought, so here are the revised Puts and Takes per Gary's advice. Coordinating with Theron to ship.
 
[SIZE=18pt]Puts                                     Takes                           Delta[/SIZE]
[SIZE=18pt]                                                                                 ( to my cost )[/SIZE]
 
Cain  Daytona 654T --$5.64           # 9 Nica Rustica El Brujito $5.72                           +.08
 
Smoke Inn- 116.50/24 = $4.85
Holts- 144.95/24= $6.04
CI- 144.99/24=$6.04
 
Illusione Holy Lance - $8.74         #23 La Riqueza Belicoso $8.73                                -.01
 
Smoke Inn – 229.95/25 = $9.20
Holts- N/A
CI-191.99/25 =$7.68
Serious Cigars -233.75/25 =9.35
 
JD Howard  Res. HR46- = $7.65        #69 PG Symphony 20 Bombones 7.92              +.27
 
Smoke Inn-183.95/24 = 7.66
Holts-182.95/24 = $7.62
CI- $183.99/24 = 7.67
 
Cuvee 151 Maduro Robusto = $6.98       #53 Room 101 SA 808 $6.82                        -.16
 
Smoke Inn- 84.95/12 = $7.07
Holts, Serious Cigars, Famous Smoke-N/A
CI -80.68/12= $6.72
NH Cigars - $7.16
 
Davidoff Nicaraugua Diadema = $17.00       #67 Viaje DE Sword  2 $17.69                +.69
 
Smoke Inn- N/A (This vitola)
Holts – 204.06/12
CI - $204.06/12
Superior- $203.95/12
 
Warped La Colmena No. 44 = $13.04     #19 Liga Privada 09  $13.60                           -.54
 
Smoke Inn- N/A
Holts – N/A
CI - $129.99/10 = $12.99
Superior- N/A
Famous Smoke Shoppe $130.99/10 = $13.10
Atlantic Cigars – 130.50/10 = $13.05
 
 
Well since I finished quicker than planned, probably too quick on the draw for Delicia. Can I at least get the full picture that was improperly cropped ?
 

ironpeddler

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Cparker said:
Well, was able to finish quicker than I thought, so here are the revised Puts and Takes per Gary's advice. Coordinating with Theron to ship.
 
[SIZE=18pt]Puts                                     Takes                           Delta[/SIZE]
[SIZE=18pt]                                                                                 ( to my cost )[/SIZE]
 
Cain  Daytona 654T --$5.64           # 9 Nica Rustica El Brujito $5.72                           +.08
 
Smoke Inn- 116.50/24 = $4.85
Holts- 144.95/24= $6.04
CI- 144.99/24=$6.04
 
Illusione Holy Lance - $8.74         #23 La Riqueza Belicoso $8.73                                -.01
 
Smoke Inn – 229.95/25 = $9.20
Holts- N/A
CI-191.99/25 =$7.68
Serious Cigars -233.75/25 =9.35
 
JD Howard  Res. HR46- = $7.65        #69 PG Symphony 20 Bombones 7.92              +.27
 
Smoke Inn-183.95/24 = 7.66
Holts-182.95/24 = $7.62
CI- $183.99/24 = 7.67
 
Cuvee 151 Maduro Robusto = $6.98       #53 Room 101 SA 808 $6.82                        -.16
 
Smoke Inn- 84.95/12 = $7.07
Holts, Serious Cigars, Famous Smoke-N/A
CI -80.68/12= $6.72
NH Cigars - $7.16
 
Davidoff Nicaraugua Diadema = $17.00       #67 Viaje DE Sword  2 $17.69                +.69
 
Smoke Inn- N/A (This vitola)
Holts – 204.06/12
CI - $204.06/12
Superior- $203.95/12
 
Warped La Colmena No. 44 = $13.04     #19 Liga Privada 09  $13.60                           -.54
 
Smoke Inn- N/A
Holts – N/A
CI - $129.99/10 = $12.99
Superior- N/A
Famous Smoke Shoppe $130.99/10 = $13.10
Atlantic Cigars – 130.50/10 = $13.05
 
 
Well since I finished quicker than planned, probably too quick on the draw for Delicia. Can I at least get the full picture that was improperly cropped ?
 
Looks like we're good to go now Chip...thank you for making the adjustment. Pack that thing up and get it off to Theron. 
 
Thanks for playing!  :thumbs:
 

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Gary, 
 
My apology on this and being a pain in the ass.
 
When bagging the Cain Daytona 654T, I noticed a residue that could be plume but could be mold. If I had to guess, I am going with mold as these are stored in a coolidor loose with no cellophane.
 
I am not comfortable putting it in the pass kit. I have some Cain Habano 654T. I inspected these and they are clean and clear. I would like to replace the Cain Daytona 654T with a Cain Habanero 654T. I revised my puts and takes pricing as below.
 
I should have inspected my puts before posting, but I was waiting to bag them until the puts and takes were cleared, and noticed this when bagging. I just do not feel comfortable putting the Daytona in the pass. I do not believe it materially changes the prices, but it is a different stick . (arguably, better.) 
 
Thanks

Chip
 
[SIZE=18pt]Puts                                     Takes                                  Delta[/SIZE]
[SIZE=18pt]                                                                                 ( to my cost )[/SIZE]
 
Cain  Habano 654T --$ 6.01          # 9 Nica Rustica El Brujito $5.72                              -.29
 
Smoke Inn- 137.95/24 = $5.75
Holts- 144.95/24= $6.04
CI- 149.99/24=$6.24
 
Illusione Holy Lance - $8.74         #23 La Riqueza Belicoso $8.73                                  -.01
 
Smoke Inn – 229.95/25 = $9.20
Holts- N/A
CI-191.99/25 =$7.68
Serious Cigars -233.75/25 =9.35
 
JD Howard  Res. HR46- = $7.65               #69 PG Symphony 20 Bombones 7.92            +.27
 
Smoke Inn-183.95/24 = 7.66
Holts-182.95/24 = $7.62
CI- $183.99/24 = 7.67
 
Cuvee 151 Maduro Robusto = $6.98    #53 Room 101 SA 808 $6.82                       -.16
 
Smoke Inn- 84.95/12 = $7.07
Holts, Serious Cigars, Famous Smoke-N/A
CI -80.68/12= $6.72
NH Cigars - $7.16
 
Davidoff Nicaraugua Diadema = $17.00  #67 Viaje DE Sword  2 $17.69                 +.69
 
Smoke Inn- N/A (This vitola)
Holts – 204.06/12
CI - $204.06/12
Superior- $203.95/12
 
Warped La Colmena No. 44 = $13.04     #19 Liga Privada 09  $13.60         -.54
 
Smoke Inn- N/A
Holts – N/A
CI - $129.99/10 = $12.99
Superior- N/A
Famous Smoke Shoppe $130.99/10 = $13.10
Atlantic Cigars – 130.50/10 = $13.05
 

ironpeddler

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Cparker said:
Gary, 
 
My apology on this and being a pain in the ass.
 
When bagging the Cain Daytona 654T, I noticed a residue that could be plume but could be mold. If I had to guess, I am going with mold as these are stored in a coolidor loose with no cellophane.
 
I am not comfortable putting it in the pass kit. I have some Cain Habano 654T. I inspected these and they are clean and clear. I would like to replace the Cain Daytona 654T with a Cain Habanero 654T. I revised my puts and takes pricing as below.
 
I should have inspected my puts before posting, but I was waiting to bag them until the puts and takes were cleared, and noticed this when bagging. I just do not feel comfortable putting the Daytona in the pass. I do not believe it materially changes the prices, but it is a different stick . (arguably, better.) 
 
Thanks
Chip
 
[SIZE=18pt]Puts                                     Takes                                  Delta[/SIZE]
[SIZE=18pt]                                                                                 ( to my cost )[/SIZE]
 
Cain  Habano 654T --$ 6.01          # 9 Nica Rustica El Brujito $5.72                              -.29
 
Smoke Inn- 137.95/24 = $5.75
Holts- 144.95/24= $6.04
CI- 149.99/24=$6.24
 
Illusione Holy Lance - $8.74         #23 La Riqueza Belicoso $8.73                                  -.01
 
Smoke Inn – 229.95/25 = $9.20
Holts- N/A
CI-191.99/25 =$7.68
Serious Cigars -233.75/25 =9.35
 
JD Howard  Res. HR46- = $7.65               #69 PG Symphony 20 Bombones 7.92            +.27
 
Smoke Inn-183.95/24 = 7.66
Holts-182.95/24 = $7.62
CI- $183.99/24 = 7.67
 
Cuvee 151 Maduro Robusto = $6.98    #53 Room 101 SA 808 $6.82                       -.16
 
Smoke Inn- 84.95/12 = $7.07
Holts, Serious Cigars, Famous Smoke-N/A
CI -80.68/12= $6.72
NH Cigars - $7.16
 
Davidoff Nicaraugua Diadema = $17.00  #67 Viaje DE Sword  2 $17.69                 +.69
 
Smoke Inn- N/A (This vitola)
Holts – 204.06/12
CI - $204.06/12
Superior- $203.95/12
 
Warped La Colmena No. 44 = $13.04     #19 Liga Privada 09  $13.60         -.54
 
Smoke Inn- N/A
Holts – N/A
CI - $129.99/10 = $12.99
Superior- N/A
Famous Smoke Shoppe $130.99/10 = $13.10
Atlantic Cigars – 130.50/10 = $13.05
 
No problem Chip, I'm glad you caught it.
 
Gentlemen, this is a great example of what's what a true BOTL does! :thumbs:  
 
The math looks like it's within the limits, so we are still on schedule. 

FYI: Rod just moved the Pass to the 'Cigar Passes in Progress' page....thank you sir!
 

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Chip, great catch. Glad your paying attention, as I am sure the other brothers down the road are as well.
 
Cheers, P&T's look good as well.
 

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Pass shipped out to today. 
 
UPS Tracking No. 1z8845x90312337833. Shows anticipated delivery on Monday, 2/28.
 
Handing off to Theron.
 
Thanks for letting me participate.
 

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Cparker said:
Pass shipped out to today. 
 
UPS Tracking No. 1z8845x90312337833. Shows anticipated delivery on Monday, 2/28.
 
Handing off to Theron.
 
Thanks for letting me participate.
 
Nice job Chip, thanks for playing!
 
So far you guys are doing a great job! 
 

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Hi all, package was delivered this morning.  I'll have my P & T's posted tonight.

Gary, quick question for you:  you said to use the list price for the boxes & not the sale price?
 
For example, Smoke Inn has the Oliva Serie O maduro robusto:  List price $143.95/20  & their price as $115.95/20.
 
Am I understanding you correctly to use the $143.95 for my pricing?
 
Thanks.
 

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Theron I beli that is correct because you do not want to devalue the stick for later on. Looking forward to seeing your puts and takes brother. Long ashes and have fun.
 

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theronray said:
Hi all, package was delivered this morning.  I'll have my P & T's posted tonight.

Gary, quick question for you:  you said to use the list price for the boxes & not the sale price?
 
For example, Smoke Inn has the Oliva Serie O maduro robusto:  List price $143.95/20  & their price as $115.95/20.
 
Am I understanding you correctly to use the $143.95 for my pricing?
 
Thanks.
That is correct...do not use temporary Sale pricing.
 

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Nick/Gary,  appreciate it.  I'll have my trades posted this evening.
 

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I spoke with Frank to see if he is ready to receive the pass when I finish with it tomorrow.  Has mentioned he will be going out of town this weekend and didn't want the box to sit outside or be untended at his home while he is away.  If it's alright with #2 & Gary, I will hold onto the pass until Saturday or Monday & ship it then. Also, this will allow me a bit longer to sort though the sticks & see what I'd like to trade out.  If this isn;t an issue, I'll post P & T's after work tomorrow & see what the group's thoughts are.
 

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theronray said:
I spoke with Frank to see if he is ready to receive the pass when I finish with it tomorrow.  Has mentioned he will be going out of town this weekend and didn't want the box to sit outside or be untended at his home while he is away.  If it's alright with #2 & Gary, I will hold onto the pass until Saturday or Monday & ship it then. Also, this will allow me a bit longer to sort though the sticks & see what I'd like to trade out.  If this isn;t an issue, I'll post P & T's after work tomorrow & see what the group's thoughts are.
Sounds like a good plan to me!
 

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Alright, here's my proposals for P & T's:
 
Put:  Oliva O robusto maduro                              Take:   #16) La Palina El Dario Kill Bill  ($7.14)
         Smoke Inn:       $143.95/20 = $7.20
         Holts:                $123.95/20 = $6.20
         Cigars Intl:        $146.78/20 = $7.34
         Avg Price:         $6.91
 
Put:  Undercrown Corona Viva                            Take:   #7) Ortega Serie #12 maduro  ($6.37)
         Smoke Inn:       $181.25/25 = $7.25
         Cigars Intl:        $175.94/25 = $7.04
         Serious:            $136.95/25 = $5.48
         Avg Price:         $6.59
 
Put:   Don Pepin Blue Exclusivo                          Take:   #11) La Aroma de Cuba Mi Amor  ($7.55)
         Cigars Intl:        $223.44/24 = $9.31
         Serious:            $119.95/24 = $5.00
         Famous:           $223.44/24 = $9.31
         Avg Prce:          $7.87
 
Put:   Herrera Estelli Lonsdale                             Take:  #68) Viaje Antidote  ($8.91)
         Smoke Inn:       $223.95/25 = $8.96
         Cigars Intl:        $228.00/25 = $9.12
         Serious:            $204.95/25 = $8.20
         Avg Price:         $8.76
 
Put:   Jamie Garcia No. 4                                     Take:  #70) Viaje Super Lance  ($9.69)
         Smoke Inn:       $240.00/23 = $10.43
         Holts:                $215.95/23 = $9.39
         Cigars Intl:        $240.00/23 = $10.43
         Avg Price:         $10.09
 
Put:  Arturo Fuente Anejo Reserva #46               Take:   #74) Illusione HL  ($8.74)
         Famous:           $212.50/25 = $8.50
         Holts:                $212.50/25 = $8.50
         Jack Schwarz:  $214.50/25 = $8.58
         Avg Price:         $8.53
 
 
Thoughts of these?
 
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