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Go Figure! Get a Sex Change Operation and Get FIRED!

Bargogirl said:
Has anybody stopped to consider that this may be a highly religous community? If a political figure is seen as doing something immoral or that could be a stumbling block to children or others, that could be some of the reasoning behind their decision. As an example of what I mean, a few years back at the same time as when the whole Clinton sex scandal happened, my son Matt was asked to write a paper on the president and what he stood for. Matthew wrote, "He is an adulterer and a liar." That was all he could bring himself to write about the man because of his disgust.

As for hormone therapy, you have to go through extensive counseling and approval from a doctor before you can begin the shots. He has every intention of going through with it. If I understood correctly, he has been married 14 years and has a teenage son?

Lets examine this for a moment. I assume a man who has invested 14 years in a relationship loves his family, no ands, ifs, or buts. No person who truly loves someone would put their family through the utter torment and chaos that he has for political gain. Also, who is to say he doesn't want to remain with his wife and child? For many transgendered people their identity has changed but not their love. The fact of the matter is that if he loves his family it will cause him to suffer watching them suffer.
Can you imagine the insecurities involved in being his child? Especially a teenage boy? The taunting from kids and the fear that oneday he might "turn" like dad? What about the wife? Assuming she has loved this man for 14 years or longer, she now has to suffer betrayal, and the agony of a decision to stay and allow her son to suffer through the humiliation or to leave and suffer through all the obstacles that divorce offers.

The devastation his personal life will experience dealing with this and rejection of family and friends will make it impossible for him to be an effective leader. After his family issues are somewhat settled, if that can ever be accomplished, and the operation is complete, "she" will probably be able to serve another community that will accept "her" based on ability as an effective leader.

But that's just my opinion.
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We weren't really discussing the religious aspect of this so much as the legal aspect. Under Largo city policy, you cannot fire a transgendered individual for being transgendered. That is what they are doing. It's defined as discrimination. If your religious views tell you that a transgendered person is immoral, your religious views are discriminatory.

Also, you seem to have some facts that we don't about this case and that was speculated on: whether he could have done this for political gain. And, last I checked, love is a two way street. His family should accept him for who he really is and while you could view this as a betrayal - what's worse: a transgendered individual constantly running a charade about their identity (ie. living a lie) or getting out with it, owning up and facing the consequences personal and otherwise? I'm pretty sure you'll struggle to find any code of morality that would recommend living a lie vs. being true to yourself and others, Christian or otherwise. One's gender identity isn't a moral issue, it just is.
 
moki said:
I found a picture of him after his operation! :)
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LOL @ Andrew!

Forget it Andrew..... I already tried to add a little humor and they didn't even blink. :D

Once again, nothing new here, happens all the time just most TG people in high profile jobs do not come out the closet in such fashion. If this was the local Wal-mart clerk nobody would utter a word about it..... hell, it never would have made the newspaper.

Still haven't seen whats so "special" about this..... upset the apple cart and you loose your apples. Anyone that thinks this guy felt everything was going to be business as usual is living in fantasyland. He knew the pros and cons of what the consequences could be and made a obvious thought out decision to do what he's doing. Sometimes the obvious is the obvious. :rolleyes:
 
He's not elected, he's a City Manager that's appointed by the elected City Commisioners and he can be fired without cause at any time.

It's also pretty clear that a majority of the city's residents want him fired too so the people who were elected by the people are responsibly carrying out the will of the people.

I don't feel bad for this guy at all, like Kenny said, he knew what he was in for.
 
Mrepp said:
Oh I don’t know, he’s an elected official isn’t he? Anytime an elected official causes a media circus there going to get the axe, especially when there contract it up soon. Besides since he is an elected official, chances are the counsel will hold a public vote to see if he should be reinstated. If they don’t reinstate him then he has nothing to sue about.
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No, he is not.
 
coventrycat86 said:
He's not elected, he's a City Manager that's appointed by the elected City Commisioners and he can be fired without cause at any time.

It's also pretty clear that a majority of the city's residents want him fired too so the people who were elected by the people are responsibly carrying out the will of the people.

I don't feel bad for this guy at all, like Kenny said, he knew what he was in for.
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He can be fired without cause, as long as that reason doesn't run foul of any laws, city policies, etc. Largo has a city policy that prevents discrimination against transgendered people, so you can't fire someone for being transgendered. The quotes, irresponsible or not, by the city commissoner in one of the articles makes it pretty clear that they are firing him for what, in Largo, is a discriminatory reason.

One of the reasons this country works so well is because we don't work on a simple majority, whether it's the will of the majority of the people in Largo or not ("hundred" of emails is far from clear, it's far from a scientific or representative sample of any city), the "will of the people" in this case has no bearing on him being fired or not. I think the City Manager probably didn't expect to be flat out fired when there is a specific policy protecting his situation - I'm sure he expected some heat, some deep digging to find dirt on him, etc, but the city council can't just flaunt city policies because they feel uncomfortable around someone.
 
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