Guns

[hydro-terp]

Its too small for my hand (requiring constant readjustment of grip), and it is (as mentioned about) pretty snappy. So I brought it home, cleaned and oiled it and put it in its lock box, and then put that in my cabinet.

3 years, 10 months and some change days later, it is still sitting in exactly the same place. The little lock box hasn't changed position, and the gun hasn't seen light in the entire time.

He's still my best friend, but I've come to the conclusion that he's not ever going to get back to a point that he'll be buying this back. And I'm ok with it, as I helped him out at that time.

It'll make a SHTF piece or maybe I'll use it as a trade for something at some point. Not in any hurry.

If you havent already, shoot it with the pierce pinky floor plate or the factory + mag or the magpull + mag so you dont have to tuck your pinky under. All my working mags for the 27 have the pinky plate and it fits my hand almost identically as the 23. You could also try a dif grain bullet. I run 180 g in 40. It softens it up.

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[hydro-terp]

The advances in terminal ballistics of modern 9mm lately have all but eliminated any real world stopping power differences.

Innovations in ballistics were not limited to 9mm. All calibers have benefited, including 40.

My carry guns are like a HF screwdriver in my mind. If used they will be confiscated and never returned. I like redundancy. In my personal situation I cant just walk down to the local shop and grab a replacement in anything close to a reasonable amount of time. 3 of my 4 are LEO trade ins that I didnt pay over $340 for because everyone is a 40 hater now. I will take that all day. Brought them in swapped out the extractor spring, checked the extractor, cups on the firing pin, maybe the pin spring. Recoil spring if if looked like it was shot a lot. Parts are dirt cheap.

All four are set up identical. Talon rubber grips, xs big dots, NY1 and - connector, smooth face G22 trigger. Internal parts all OEM. Thats it. The giant yellow tennis ball XS is a caveman red dot.

The beauty that no one realizes or talks about much with the 19/23 and 26/27 is that your reload mag can be a full size 17/22. You cant say that about many other platforms without talking about some wonky aftermarket mag.

I've run a NY1 and - connector in every Glock I own for about 20 years now. Im at like 8 now. Its sounds odd but its like peanut butter and chocolate. Firm take up and then crisp light break at the end. The NY1 is superior to the stock spring IIHO because its a compression spring. The opposite of the screen door type factory spring which I've seen break in a match and turn a functioning Glock into a $600 brick. That along with the $0.25 trigger job is all the secret sauce I have to offer.

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[rbbrock]

Funny thing about handguns; I still claim that there has to be a certain 'zen' between the handgun and owner. For example, if you pick up a Glock (or any pistol) and hate it....you're not going to shoot it well, and will likely fight it for some time. By the same token, if you pick up a handgun, feels good, like it, and think '...I could shoot this...'....then, things will go better.

SNIP

This is why I don't have a Glock, though I definitely have an appreciation for the ubiquity of the pistols, parts, knowledge, etc.

The S&W M&P series, and more recently the Sig P365, have been my go-to. I adore my P365 X Macro for the capacity : size ratio. The thing carries like a dream. I don't see myself buying any more Sigs given how the 320 fiasco is playing out, though.

 

[lucasbuck]

I'm with you on the .357 mag - would loved to have seen that blossom more. But, unfortunately, it's gone by the wayside. And it appears the 10mm is going with it!

But I have been eyeing the 5.7X28 - and almost bought the PSA Rock when it was at a very decent price. Love the concept of the round, but the mag capacity is the killer for me (Illinois banned "high capacity" magazines). So even though I have an exemption (retired LE),
PSA would not even remotely consider sending me the gun or mags... It seems to be the right thing for the right reason - a gun that has a lot of the 9mm characteristics with a significantly larger capacity magazine.

I’m so enamored with the 5.7! Been looking for a deal on the S&W 57 for a while now. Sorry about your state’s ban. That really sucks. My current carry guns are a Smith Shield Plus in 30SC & a Seecamp but I would definitely consider the Smith 57 if I can shoot it well, especially in winter when I can conceal it easier.

 

[rbbrock]

 

[DomnioMaestro]

If you havent already, shoot it with the pierce pinky floor plate or the factory + mag or the magpull + mag so you dont have to tuck your pinky under. All my working mags for the 27 have the pinky plate and it fits my hand almost identically as the 23. You could also try a dif grain bullet. I run 180 g in 40. It softens it up.

HT

I see your point. And I'm not wholly against it. It would just mean spending money on a gun that I dont really like.

I've heard about the gen 5's. Havent picked one up yet, or shot one.

 

[DomnioMaestro]

I’m so enamored with the 5.7! Been looking for a deal on the S&W 57 for a while now.

I am in the process of acquiring a 5.7. I absolutely love the way it shoots. I do not think that I will be carrying it though, as that round tends to really over penetrate....

 

[JCinPA]

After several posters’ comments about the Glocks, I’m going to use my Glock 45 (model, not caliber) at an IDPA match. My “zen” guns are 1911s or my 2011, but my G45 is 5th gen with a good trigger—I need to try competing with it.

Glocks are terrific guns. The main knock on them, at least as I see it, is aesthetic, not performance. When I open my gun safe to get papers or something else, I’ll frequently pick up a 1911 or a CZ or a revolver or my Beretta to fondle, but never a Glock. It would be like picking up a hammer to fondle when you go into the garage. It’s a tool. It’s not something you fall in love with like you can with a classic gun.

But there is no doubt the Glock design will go down in history as one of the most influential guns of all time, like the 1911, the AK-47, the M16, the German P38 (I think the first of the wondernines? High cap, DA/SA). There is a reason Glocks are so popular. I’m gonna make an effort to use them more.

 

[SKYDIVNEKD]

I'm a .40 cal fan - been one since I was LE and we switched from 9mm to .40 during the controversy about the underpowered 9mm ammo (horror stories of people being shot multiple time with 9mm ammo and still walking unphased). I wanted some stopping power and did not like the bulk of the .45's at that time (plus the .45 was not a universal carry by LEO's). Thankfully 9mm ammo has much improved since those days as I now own quite a few 9mm pistols. But I've still had a soft spot for the .40's.

I've acquired several .40 pistols over the years, and have been blessed that each while being a LE trade-in purchase, all have been in excellent condition. Because of the price of .40 cal ammo when I bought them, I was able to buy that at pretty much a song and dance. My most recent purchase was a Glock 23 - and the only reason I bought it was because the price was really right. No doubt it's not pretty but it is utilitarian - though not pretty, it does the job. And as I've been playing armorer in my spare time - I love how supported it is with after reasonably priced market parts.

But I do have a question as I've been perusing through the various Glock aftermarket parts. Is there truly a value in replacing the OEM Glock trigger set up for something more fancy? I've come across the GlockStore V2 pyramid trigger system and it seems like a worthwhile upgrade (not horribly expensive for their Gen 5 version). Am I crazy thinking that I might want to make that investment?

Would love to hear your thoughts!

NO! Shoot it and you’ll get used to it! Learn the trigger reset, sight alignment/picture, you’re in! It may matter in a 1000 yard match, otherwise, NO!

Floyd T

My .02 cents. A pencil is ugly, but if I stab you with it, you’ll die! Body don’t give a shit bout pretty!

 

[SKYDIVNEKD]

Out of what I read, this stands out.

Shoot a pistol that fits your hand the first time.(if you’re not forced to accept it due to work(or girlfriend)). Then, shoot it enough to get familiar with it. Single round firing is a great way to figure it out. Aim small, miss small!!! Shoot at a thimble, not a building.

Figure out trigger control, sight alignment/picture. Dummy rounds in the mag will tell you volumes!

Have fun. Anyone getting rid of Glocks, let me know. “Getting rid of” is NOT the same as retail!

Floyd T

 

[ggiese]

Out of what I read, this stands out.

Shoot a pistol that fits your hand the first time.(if you’re not forced to accept it due to work(or girlfriend)). Then, shoot it enough to get familiar with it. Single round firing is a great way to figure it out. Aim small, miss small!!! Shoot at a thimble, not a building.

Figure out trigger control, sight alignment/picture. Dummy rounds in the mag will tell you volumes!

Have fun. Anyone getting rid of Glocks, let me know. “Getting rid of” is NOT the same as retail!

Floyd T

I was blessed with the "getting rid of part" when I picked up my Gen 5 Model 19 - $300 and he felt bad asking for so much (he was appreciative I bought it to close out his fathers estate). The nice thing - it helped me to "sell" it to momma (who does not like my gun budget at all). For $300 it's really a no-brainer in my book - especially with the retail over $600 around here. And it's in damn near new condition (looks like he may have only put less than 1000 rounds through it - and never carried it in a holster). Plus he had all of the original parts and pieces, including the Glock carrying case and grip extensions.

I was also very lucky because he dropped a lot of the other "stuff" his dad had for the gun - 10 mags (four 10 rd and six 15 round). He also have some Glock tools that are always handy to have - as well as a set of TruGlo Tritium sights (originally priced at $150 back when he bought them). I'm not sure they will still be night glow as they seem to be a few years old, but they are nice sights nonetheless! And they do look great on the aftermarket stainless slide I had picked up.

As I've been playing around with my new acquisition, I do appreciate the Gen 5 aspect. I have a Glock 23 (I believe it's a Gen 1) as well as the PSA Dagger Glock 17 clone (definitely a Gen 1). I'm a left handed shooter, so I really did not care for not being able to change out the mag release on them. But the Gen 5 is completely a different critter. Love that there was finally some consideration by Glock to address left vs. right handed shooters. And I also love the simplicity of the lower compared to earlier generations. Much, much easier to work on!

I did bite on the OEM Glock "Performance Trigger" setup, though (sorry Floyd - I do love a shorter trigger pull than the Gen 5 stock trigger). Found it on eBay for $98 with tax and shipping (a great deal!). Can't wait to drop that baby in and test it out. Seems like a very reasonably priced upgrade.

Now I just need to find a great red dot sight. I've been converting most of my pistols to red dots where I can, but not overly happy with the Burris Fastfire. The frame is pretty flimsy. Looking at possible installing a Holosun - seems to be a great balance between price point vs. performance.

BTW - for a cheaper Glock alternative I really, really like the PSA Dagger. I love the grip styling on it. It is one of my favorites to take to the range. It's as consistently reliable as the Glock counterpart - and really fits very well in my hand. And it looks much prettier than the Glock 19 (it's the pistol on the right)!

 

[hydro-terp]

Holosun is the way. They used to make one with a circle dot and the outside ring was like 6 moa. So if you didnt have good alignment it would steer you to find the dot. I played with one and then returned it which was prob a mistake now in hindsight.

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I have a bow with a red dot site…not a laser though that might be cool. It’s an older red dot and it’s an older bow. But give me a couple try’s and I can split a pencil at 20 yards.

Sadly it sits in the basement, all the fletching needs to be redone on the arrows, and I haven’t shot it in 10 years. But I know it will still shoot the same.