I don't know what's going on lately...
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CoventryCat86
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I can't remember where this came from, I think it might have been Floyd:
"Even though you have a right to free speech doesn't mean you have to excercise it"
For you "free speech" fanatics, as Moki pointed out, this is NOT necessarily a "free speech" situation. This is a PRIVATELY OWNED board by a fine gentleman by the name of Rod Linsalato (screen name "Rod" in case ya didn't know).
Another thought about free speech, there's such a thing as "free speech" but there are also other things like:
1. Creating a public disturbance (an infraction in Connecticut)
2. Breach of Peace (a misdemeanor in Connecticut)
3. Inciting a riot (a more serious misdemeanor)
4. Rioting (a felony)
indybob, if this were the real world, you'd be in jail by now. Your "free speech" is slanderous, obnoxious, rude, ignorant and downright stupid. I have no use for you and and your trolling crap laced with numerous personal insults. A smart thing for you to do would be to quietly ride off into the sunset.
orangeperson, WOW you're not far behind indybob. Looks to me like ya might want to follow him out the door, or not but if you don't clean up your act, you're not going to find this a very pleasant place to pass your time.
wrum,..............the jury's still out but I think a verdict is forthcoming in the very near future.
"Even though you have a right to free speech doesn't mean you have to excercise it"
For you "free speech" fanatics, as Moki pointed out, this is NOT necessarily a "free speech" situation. This is a PRIVATELY OWNED board by a fine gentleman by the name of Rod Linsalato (screen name "Rod" in case ya didn't know).
Another thought about free speech, there's such a thing as "free speech" but there are also other things like:
1. Creating a public disturbance (an infraction in Connecticut)
2. Breach of Peace (a misdemeanor in Connecticut)
3. Inciting a riot (a more serious misdemeanor)
4. Rioting (a felony)
indybob, if this were the real world, you'd be in jail by now. Your "free speech" is slanderous, obnoxious, rude, ignorant and downright stupid. I have no use for you and and your trolling crap laced with numerous personal insults. A smart thing for you to do would be to quietly ride off into the sunset.
orangeperson, WOW you're not far behind indybob. Looks to me like ya might want to follow him out the door, or not but if you don't clean up your act, you're not going to find this a very pleasant place to pass your time.
wrum,..............the jury's still out but I think a verdict is forthcoming in the very near future.
DePasta
Stop it! That tickles!
Oh crap, I ate a peach the other day!
Sorry, I had to do it.
-Dan
CoventryCat86
Corresponding authority
ddepaola said:
Oh crap, I ate a peach the other day!
Sorry, I had to do it.
-Dan
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Ooooops :laugh:
I fixed that while I was fixing another error (too bad ya missed what that one was and I ain't tellin' ya :laugh: )
godfather
New Member
CC, you handled yourself all wrong. Many people say you're a mean bully remember? You're not supposed to take constructive criticism in stride and learn from your mistakes...:laugh: :laugh:
CoventryCat86
Corresponding authority
godfather said:
Damn
Lemme try again.....
%^#$U$*%&&*&ddepaola Don't you have ANYTHING else better to do with your time that CORRECT people's spelling? I mean what a DICK you are :angry: Only people with a small penis do that. This is a pet peeve of mine.
Jerk, asshat, pooofter, bully, know-it-all, you think you're BETTER than me HUH? Yeah well I'm a DOCTOR or was that a LAWYER, I dunno but all I know is I'm BETTER than you and you suck.
(How's that godfather?)
Lopaka
That flyer guy!
coventrycat86 said:godfather said:
Damn
Lemme try again.....
%^#$U$*%&&*&ddepaola Don't you have ANYTHING else better to do with your time that CORRECT people's spelling? I mean what a DICK you are :angry: Only people with a small penis do that. This is a pet peeve of mine.
Jerk, asshat, pooofter, bully, know-it-all, you think you're BETTER than me HUH? Yeah well I'm a DOCTOR or was that a LAWYER, I dunno but all I know is I'm BETTER than you and you suck.
(How's that godfather?)
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Holy Christmas Batman! I was in tears reading that and coffee is all over the computer, carpet, TV... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
IgwanaRob
I'm just 2 people short of a threesome
coventrycat86 said:
Is that a euphemism for no sex before marriage?
:whistling:
(damn you editing faster than I could wuote...)
IgwanaRob
I'm just 2 people short of a threesome
(double post deleted)
DePasta
Stop it! That tickles!
coventrycat86 said:godfather said:
Damn
Lemme try again.....
%^#$U$*%&&*&ddepaola Don't you have ANYTHING else better to do with your time that CORRECT people's spelling? I mean what a DICK you are :angry: Only people with a small penis do that. This is a pet peeve of mine.
Jerk, asshat, pooofter, bully, know-it-all, you think you're BETTER than me HUH? Yeah well I'm a DOCTOR or was that a LAWYER, I dunno but all I know is I'm BETTER than you and you suck.
(How's that godfather?)
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Well you're just a meenie!
Remember newbs have feelings too!
Small penis! (have you been talking to my wife?)
-Dan
theorangeman
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Regarding Sam's post earlier...
Okay Sam, that's fine and I can respect your decision. However, please do keep in mind that what you have posted has been taken out of context and isn't a very fair representation of the whole issue. What others, who read this thread, won’t see is all of the shots ggiese took at me during that thread as well as many other threads prior to that whole debacle. I couldn't understand at the time why he kept doing so. I kept biting my tongue, so to speak, and just took shot after shot. Even if I wasn't involved in a certain thread, he would bring my name up in a condescending way (it was clearly personal). However, after a while, I had enough of the disrespect he was showing me, whether I am a new member or not. My beef in that thread was 99% with ggiese; it really wasn’t a larger issue than that, even if I may have confused this fact.
In regards to the last comment, I agree with you whole heartedly and I do apologize. I shouldn't classify people being "in his welcome party" just because they don't agree with me. That was wrong, and you made a very good point.
In an effort to help you or anyone else who cares understand; I did believe that there was some support being given to ggiese that wasn't due to the issue at hand but was instead simply out of friendship. I certainly made the mistake by putting you and perhaps a couple others into this group. Godfather’s post earlier in this thread illustrates this exact point. I believe at times people will blindly back up a friend, without really considering the issue in its entirety and whether the friend might be off a bit as well. In fairness to Godfather, I have to admit that over the years, I too have been guilty of this (and I think we all have). Therefore, I don't have any hard feelings towards Godfather or anyone else, regardless of what their opinion is of me.
The last thing that I want to make very clear is that I have the utmost respect for this place and the gentleman that built it. As I shared with you last night, I have come to appreciate the fact that people look out for each other here and this is one of the very few places a person can come (on-line) that they don't have to worry about getting scammed. The trust that has been established on this board is very unique. For that, again, I very much do appreciate.
I also really like it here and intend on being around for a long time regardless of what a few people might want. I've met many wonderful and knowledgeable people here. I've traded, been in passes, participated in bombs, and organized group buys with guys and I have never had any issues.
I have made the decision to do my very best not to participate in threads that may get controversial because that's not why I came here and isn't what I enjoy doing. Therefore, as I've done since the blow-up a couple of weeks ago, I've decided to just stick with the aspects of this board that I like and enjoy and will allow others to do their thing. If a member chooses to continue to take shots at me in other non-related threads, that is their prerogative and I will not engage in anymore bantering.
The main reason for this post, is to clear the air a bit and to offer some explanation of my actions (words) as well as apologize to anyone who I may have offended mistakenly in the thread a couple of weeks ago. One last thing that I do want to mention is that I do understand that in an effort for this place to continue being the special place it has become, it must be protected and guys need to be called out at times. What I don't agree with though is that occasionally it gets a little personal rather than sticking with the issue at hand. I also believe that this is precisely what happened between ggiese and myself a couple weeks ago.
At any rate, that's my side of things for what it's worth. As I mentioned above, I will continue to stick to the less controversial threads and be more mindful of what I post. I very much enjoy the discussion concerning cigars, humidors, cigar passes and other such topics. Therefore, I will stick with those topics in an effort to enjoy this board as well as to stay out of the way of others from doing what they want to do. I expect that there will probably be much discussion concerning my post, and that is fine, but I hope that those of you who may disagree with me will at least understand that my intentions are good and I am confident that you will see this over time.
Take care gentleman, and as promised, I’m back to the threads that are more up my alley. Therefore, I will leave this thread with my words behind. If anyone would like me to explain anything further, please send me a pm, and I would be more than happy to do so publicly or privately. I don’t mean to duck out of this thread, but I believe that I have explained my position as best as I can, and to be consistent with what I have stated above, I intend to stick to what I enjoy; discussion about cigars.
~ theorangeman
Okay Sam, that's fine and I can respect your decision. However, please do keep in mind that what you have posted has been taken out of context and isn't a very fair representation of the whole issue. What others, who read this thread, won’t see is all of the shots ggiese took at me during that thread as well as many other threads prior to that whole debacle. I couldn't understand at the time why he kept doing so. I kept biting my tongue, so to speak, and just took shot after shot. Even if I wasn't involved in a certain thread, he would bring my name up in a condescending way (it was clearly personal). However, after a while, I had enough of the disrespect he was showing me, whether I am a new member or not. My beef in that thread was 99% with ggiese; it really wasn’t a larger issue than that, even if I may have confused this fact.
In regards to the last comment, I agree with you whole heartedly and I do apologize. I shouldn't classify people being "in his welcome party" just because they don't agree with me. That was wrong, and you made a very good point.
In an effort to help you or anyone else who cares understand; I did believe that there was some support being given to ggiese that wasn't due to the issue at hand but was instead simply out of friendship. I certainly made the mistake by putting you and perhaps a couple others into this group. Godfather’s post earlier in this thread illustrates this exact point. I believe at times people will blindly back up a friend, without really considering the issue in its entirety and whether the friend might be off a bit as well. In fairness to Godfather, I have to admit that over the years, I too have been guilty of this (and I think we all have). Therefore, I don't have any hard feelings towards Godfather or anyone else, regardless of what their opinion is of me.
The last thing that I want to make very clear is that I have the utmost respect for this place and the gentleman that built it. As I shared with you last night, I have come to appreciate the fact that people look out for each other here and this is one of the very few places a person can come (on-line) that they don't have to worry about getting scammed. The trust that has been established on this board is very unique. For that, again, I very much do appreciate.
I also really like it here and intend on being around for a long time regardless of what a few people might want. I've met many wonderful and knowledgeable people here. I've traded, been in passes, participated in bombs, and organized group buys with guys and I have never had any issues.
I have made the decision to do my very best not to participate in threads that may get controversial because that's not why I came here and isn't what I enjoy doing. Therefore, as I've done since the blow-up a couple of weeks ago, I've decided to just stick with the aspects of this board that I like and enjoy and will allow others to do their thing. If a member chooses to continue to take shots at me in other non-related threads, that is their prerogative and I will not engage in anymore bantering.
The main reason for this post, is to clear the air a bit and to offer some explanation of my actions (words) as well as apologize to anyone who I may have offended mistakenly in the thread a couple of weeks ago. One last thing that I do want to mention is that I do understand that in an effort for this place to continue being the special place it has become, it must be protected and guys need to be called out at times. What I don't agree with though is that occasionally it gets a little personal rather than sticking with the issue at hand. I also believe that this is precisely what happened between ggiese and myself a couple weeks ago.
At any rate, that's my side of things for what it's worth. As I mentioned above, I will continue to stick to the less controversial threads and be more mindful of what I post. I very much enjoy the discussion concerning cigars, humidors, cigar passes and other such topics. Therefore, I will stick with those topics in an effort to enjoy this board as well as to stay out of the way of others from doing what they want to do. I expect that there will probably be much discussion concerning my post, and that is fine, but I hope that those of you who may disagree with me will at least understand that my intentions are good and I am confident that you will see this over time.
Take care gentleman, and as promised, I’m back to the threads that are more up my alley. Therefore, I will leave this thread with my words behind. If anyone would like me to explain anything further, please send me a pm, and I would be more than happy to do so publicly or privately. I don’t mean to duck out of this thread, but I believe that I have explained my position as best as I can, and to be consistent with what I have stated above, I intend to stick to what I enjoy; discussion about cigars.
~ theorangeman
godfather
New Member
coventrycat86 said:godfather said:
Damn
Lemme try again.....
%^#$U$*%&&*&ddepaola Don't you have ANYTHING else better to do with your time that CORRECT people's spelling? I mean what a DICK you are :angry: Only people with a small penis do that. This is a pet peeve of mine.
Jerk, asshat, pooofter, bully, know-it-all, you think you're BETTER than me HUH? Yeah well I'm a DOCTOR or was that a LAWYER, I dunno but all I know is I'm BETTER than you and you suck.
(How's that godfather?)
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: :laugh:
CoventryCat86
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theorangeperson said:Regarding Sam's post earlier...
I don’t mean to duck out of this thread, but I believe that I have explained my position as best as I can, and to be consistent with what I have stated above, I intend to stick to what I enjoy; discussion about cigars.
~ theorangeperson
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Now, you're REALLY starting to piss me off. :angry:
This BS is a case of "I'm sorry but your an a$$"
orangeperson, you disgust me.......
godfather
New Member
orangeman said:
That's b.s. orangeman, you simply LEFT the thread after I justified backing ggiese on the 'Aged A-La-Cart Split' THREAD.
At the time I had my beef with you, you were parading around this forum like you owned the place. This thread is a perfect example:
http://www.cigarpass.com/forumsipb/index.php?showtopic=16808
This thread was out of line and definitely rubbed me the wrong way. I'm sure this is "one of the examples" you felt like ggiese was taking "shots" at you.
This was just plain STUPID in my opinion and I know you're smarter than that (maybe not... :laugh
. Do you notice EVERY section of the forum has a section saying NOT to discuss this?Here let me remind you again: http://www.cigarpass.com/forums/index.php?...nounce&f=5&id=5
This was ONE example that proved you had NO regard for this board and instead, you were looking out for #1. I hope you've since APOLOGIZED to Rod for your behavior on that thread and YOU learned something from ggiese's valid points there as well.
Then you continued with your arrogant and cocky attitude here:
http://www.cigarpass.com/forumsipb/index.php?showtopic=16974
Re-read the thread, there were other people that didn't like your attitude as well. I'm really not going to ARGUE my reasoning point for point with you.
At that point, you were 2 for 2 in my book as being out of line.
orangeman said:
Don't sit here and try to JUSTIFY my actions orangie for me and TALK down to me. Instead of making these BLIND assumptions, why don't you simply asked why I defended ggiese? Your lies and b.s. are simply amazing... :thumbs: :thumbs:
I'm really not going to sit here and refute my justifying actions for backing ggiese on that other thread. Remember, when you challenged me, YOU LEFT the thread. At this point orange, it's IRRELVANT, LOOK AROUND YOU MAN. You've stepped on enough people's toes where they're pretty upset with your behavior and are calling you on it. If you think it's just ggiese, you need to spend a LITTLE more time reading.
I didn't realize you were my PR speaker here either... :laugh: :laugh:
godfather
New Member
BTW, I think your post calling me out is one pile of crap... :laugh:
Do you single me out because of my "join date" and "post count?" I'd be willing to bet cigars that's why you did it.
I like how you DON'T call out the many OTHER people on this board who have issues with you. This is too much, but thanks for playing... :laugh:
Do you single me out because of my "join date" and "post count?" I'd be willing to bet cigars that's why you did it.
I like how you DON'T call out the many OTHER people on this board who have issues with you. This is too much, but thanks for playing... :laugh:
You know, I really do enjoy reading these discussions. I wonder what the longest case in CigarPass history is of something like this back and forth? What weasal has stayed longer than say 4 months and continued to debate the same issue for which the weasal was called a weasal, this is so much fun!
Thanks Grandpa!
Thanks Grandpa!
SamClemmons
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Not going to wash orangeperson. If George has it in for you he has good reason. Having read some of your posts I'm not surprised.NA
Lee
Well-Known Member
Orange has been running off at the mouth since he registered....wannabe
ggiese
Well-Known Member
PM's are for sneaks. You want to discuss it - here's the proper forum for it. That way - no ones words can be misconstrued.
Orangie as the "voice of reason":
theorangeman said:That's sad, I like Rob and I wish we had more guys like him on CP. He seems like a stand up guy, great sense of humor, and was just trying to make light of a situation that, in my opinion, was blown WAY out of proportion.
Stick around Rob - we need more guys like you around here.
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Like your opinion is all that matters... "we need more guys like you around here"
You weren't even called into this - you saw fit to stick your 2 cents in:
theorangeman said:
Clearly your intentions were shown here...
theorangeman said:
That's BS and you know it, orangie... You wanted to take out the "playground bully" (your words) because YOU didn't like it. YOU weren't going to stand for it. That was despite the majority of the members CLEARLY viewing the situation differently. YOU just felt you HAD to jump into that thread and act as the arbitrator... Why did you do that? Because you just couldn't help yourself...
Way back - I offered this suggestion after you wanted to be the "arbitrator" of a thread and shut down any further discussion - when you had a whopping 150 posts under your belt...
theorangeman said:
I've got a suggestion for ya... Don't look... If you're not happy with what's in this thread, don't look... That'll solve the problem just fine!!!
And your response?
theorangeman said:Thanks guys, for the wise advice of not reading if I don't like it. Boy, I couldn't of thought of that one on my own
This isn't that big of a deal, just voicing my opinion... my panties aren't in a bunch (so don't worry)
Ok, carry on...
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But you continued to carry on... and carry on.... and carry on... Trying to be the newbie arbitrator, bent on changing things around here... And then you bitched like a woman giving birth to a bowling ball because YOU felt it should end, and it didn't. Like your word SHOULD be the last word...
You've expressed your displeasure a number of times in a number of ways. Now you're trying to tell the board that you don't have any intention of continuing with any of this "drama". You've been called on it by others - and now you're trying to say to Neal that it was all taken out of context? Go back and re-read what you've posted - you're not going to convince anyone you had any other intention other than to put the "schoolyard bully" stuff to an end. In other words - you didn't like the way the thread was being handled, so you felt that it should end and no one should go against that. And if you do - you are a "schoolyard bully". Sorry, orangie - you were WRONG...
Orangie - you're the Energizer bunny - you CAN'T quit - you're like a moth to a flame... And you aren't going to BS anyone into thinking you're only here for the happy discussion. You've been involved in way too many controversies in your couple of months here for you to pretend it never happened...
You talk about my "friends" jumping to my defense. Do you think it is at all possible that you've made a number of new "friends" because of your assinine posts, arrogant attitude, hard headed tactics and refusal to listen to reason?
Good luck with this one...
CoventryCat86
Corresponding authority
One for orangeperson, the other for indybob.
wrum can go in the trash next week.
Sorry but the garbage man has a "two asshat per week" limit.