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Little Known Baseball Facts

Maggs44

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Just some "musings" on ML Baseball. I thought I knew alot about baseball, being an old man, (I was 1 year old when Sports Illustrated was first published on August 16, 1954 with Eddie Mathews on the cover).

Little facts like during the 1880's walks were counted as hits, so .400 batting averages were much more comon. But I was suprised when I read the following.

Ruth Almost Got Extra HR in 1968
New York Daily News

San Fransisco – Barry Bonds' effort to overtake Babe Ruth on the all-time home run list could have been more difficult.

If an ad hoc Major League Baseball committee had had its way in 1968, Ruth's career total would have been one higher, at 715.

Researchers at the National Baseball Hall of Fame dug up old news clips last week about a ball Ruth hit into the stands that wasn't counted as a homer.

On July 8,1918, while playing left field for the Red Sox, Ruth hit a ball into the Fenway Park seats with Amos (Lightning) Strunk on first base in the bottom of the 10th inning against Cleveland. Under baseball's rules at the time, once Strunk scored from first the game was over, the Red Sox won 1-0, and Ruth was credited with a triple.

The rule was changed in 1920 so that a home run is a home run no matter when you hit it - unless you pass a base runner ahead of you or you don't actually round the bases.

In 1968, a "special records committee” reviewing data for a new encyclopedia decided Ruth should be credited with another home run, which would give him 715. Baseball was ready to recognize that total, but MLB public relations director Joe Reichle was in Japan when the vote was taken.

When Reichler returned, he argued against the 715 total and persuaded a couple of panelists to change their minds. Thus his total remained at 714.

That deprived Ruth of a homer, but another little-remembered quirk of the rules may have benefited him. Before 1931, balls that bounced over outfield fences were scored as homers, not doubles. Ruth played all but five of his big-league seasons before 1931, but there is no estimate of how many of his homers were bouncers.

Also, before 1920 umpires made fair or-foul rulings based on where the ball landed in the stands, not where it left the field. Ruth probably lost homers on balls that left the field fair but hooked so much they landed foul
The Milwaukee Jounal Sentinel staff contributed to this report
 
Thats a pretty cool little tidbit of information. Given these rules you're right who knows how many he would have hit. Hank and him might of been a little bit closer.

On a side note did anyone else see Bonds get robbed of 714 last night?

It was spectacular.
 
Very cool and odd information.

But on a side note:


I am so tired of the man-luv fest ESPN and BBTN have for Barry Bonds. I hope he hits the HR so I wont have to be subjected to more highlights and commentary from them about the quest to tie RUTH..!
 
I hope Bonds breaks arm playing the Cubs. He'd be done and I'd be happy that the Cubbies finally won a game.
 
Interesting factoids.

Bonds has really shot up to the top of my "People I Could Do Without" list in the last couple of years (up from somewhere near the middle).
 
I think those Philly fans the other night said it best. "Babe Ruth did it on hot dogs and beer, Aaron did it with class, what did you do it on"?

Doc.
 
Interesting factoids.

Bonds has really shot up to the top of my "People I Could Do Without" list in the last couple of years (up from somewhere near the middle).

I totally agree. I never really liked him, and every year, every day it seems he does more and more to turn people off. Does he do it on purpose, of is he just a *&%$##

The latest was his 713 homer in Philadelphia. A Bonds fan (and a serviceman at that) caught the ball. At a news conference after the game Bonds was asked if he would sign the ball for the fan... he quickly said no! Later, Bonds posed with the fan for a picture and Bonds' agent asked the fan to sign a release so Bonds could use the picture in his reality show. WHAT NERVE!!
 
Interesting factoids.

Bonds has really shot up to the top of my "People I Could Do Without" list in the last couple of years (up from somewhere near the middle).

I totally agree. I never really liked him, and every year, every day it seems he does more and more to turn people off. Does he do it on purpose, of is he just a *&%$##

The latest was his 713 homer in Philadelphia. A Bonds fan (and a serviceman at that) caught the ball. At a news conference after the game Bonds was asked if he would sign the ball for the fan... he quickly said no! Later, Bonds posed with the fan for a picture and Bonds' agent asked the fan to sign a release so Bonds could use the picture in his reality show. WHAT NERVE!!

I would have told him to go take a flying leap.
 
Here's another unknown/little known fact, that involves our business partner....

9. Chuck Lindstrom
Lindstrom, a catcher, played only one game in the Majors, the final White Sox contest of the season. But what a game it was. Lindstrom, the son of New York Giants Hall of Famer Freddie Lindstrom, tripled and walked in his two plate appearances, for a 1.000 batting average, a 1.000 OBP, and a major league record 3.000 slugging percentage. He also scored a run and batted in another. Lindstrom was sent back down to the minors the next season, and soon realized his career wasn't going anywhere. He retired and went on to coach for Lincoln College for 23 years. "I just didn't have the mental toughness for pro ball," he says in "Once Around the Bases," by Richard Tellis.
 
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