Oliva Conneticutt Shade

[Wurm]

I used to smoke nothing but Connecticut Shade wrappered cigars...

then they got boring.

Today, after not having one in a long time I decided to smoke one of the two Oliva Connecticut Shade Torpedos that I received in the 10 cigar Oliva collection CI currently has on sale for Father's day.

I was pleasantly surprised.

However, I'd really like to know why there seems to be a unwritten rule that all Connecticut wrapped cigars have to be mild. Come on cigar makers, drop a strand or two of ligero in there...

I did enjoy the cigar (other than the NUB I haven't had a bad Oliva yet) but bleh it could have been a lot better if it had of been a tad stronger.

Anyone else agree with me? And if anyone does know of a strong Connecticut cigar out there, let me know, as it stands now... I won't be buying any Connecticut wrappered cigars in the near (or far) future.

 

[brian29]

Though I haven't tried one for myself, I heard that Camacho has a new Connecticut wrapped cigar that is closer to a full bodied flavor. You may want to check it out.

Thanks,

Brian

 

[OckhamsFolly]

I believe La Flor Dominicana's Reserva Especial line uses Connecticut Shade for the cigars in the line with the colorado claro capas, and while they're not especially strong, I certainly wouldn't describe them as mild either. If you haven't tried them, maybe it's worth a shot.

 

[Marcos]

While I don't smoke hardly any CT shade wrapped cigars, most have really been to mild for my taste. Ct shade wrapper leaf is mild. Now while you can definitely beef it up with some strong filler/binder combo, that would probably overpower the wrapper. So maybe because it is so mild there aren't too many options like there may be for other heartier types of wrapper. Who knows? I do have one every now and then and they are nice for a change of pace.

 

[Nimrod]

How fast does Connecticut leaf burns compared to the Ligero leaf?

The reason why you see little or no strong Connecticut wrapper cigars might be because the manufacturers want the cigar to burn even.

 

[Wurm]

How fast does Connecticut leaf burns compared to the Ligero leaf?

The reason why you see little or no strong Connecticut wrapper cigars might be because the manufacturers want the cigar to burn even.

I'm talking about one thin strand of ligero added for flavor. And AFAIK As long as you light your cigar well, it doesn't matter what type of tobacco is in the middle, its going to burn at the same rate.

And if your hypothesis were correct, we wouldn't have so many other blends on the market.

 

[Nimrod]

How fast does Connecticut leaf burns compared to the Ligero leaf?

The reason why you see little or no strong Connecticut wrapper cigars might be because the manufacturers want the cigar to burn even.

I'm talking about one thin strand of ligero added for flavor. And AFAIK As long as you light your cigar well, it doesn't matter what type of tobacco is in the middle, its going to burn at the same rate.

And if your hypothesis were correct, we wouldn't have so many other blends on the market.

That is not what I have been told.
I was told Cameroon wrappers either burn too fast or too slow, I forget which. And that was the main reason why there are not that many strong cigars in Cameroon. There are other reasons as to why, for instance, the amount of people who like Cameroon, the fact the wrapper cracks, and Africa is having drought problems causing the wrapper to get even thinner.

When you do get an answer, please let me know.

 

[swampcat18]

Though I haven't tried one for myself, I heard that Camacho has a new Connecticut wrapped cigar that is closer to a full bodied flavor. You may want to check it out.

Thanks,

Brian

I'll second the Camacho mentioned by Brian. I haven't had it yet, but most Camacho's tend to be fairly strong. Also, I'll throw in the 601 Black label. I've only had one of those, but I was pleasantly suprised with it. I wouldn't call it strong, but it did have enough complexity to keep it interesting.

 

[Wurm]

How fast does Connecticut leaf burns compared to the Ligero leaf?

The reason why you see little or no strong Connecticut wrapper cigars might be because the manufacturers want the cigar to burn even.

I'm talking about one thin strand of ligero added for flavor. And AFAIK As long as you light your cigar well, it doesn't matter what type of tobacco is in the middle, its going to burn at the same rate.

And if your hypothesis were correct, we wouldn't have so many other blends on the market.

That is not what I have been told.
I was told Cameroon wrappers either burn too fast or too slow, I forget which. And that was the main reason why there are not that many strong cigars in Cameroon. There are other reasons as to why, for instance, the amount of people who like Cameroon, the fact the wrapper cracks, and Africa is having drought problems causing the wrapper to get even thinner.

When you do get an answer, please let me know.

LFD Cameroons are strong as hell... and in my experience Connecticut wrapped cigars burn at the same rate as a Maduro wrapped, someone mentioned they may not want to overpower the Connecticut wrapper, but with careful blending I'm sure you could make a Connecticut shade cigar with a bit more taste than most of the ones out there.

I guess I'll have to pick up one of the Comanchos and one of the 601s and see.

 

[Anthem]

LFD does one of the Ligero in a Connecticut shade, or at least they did as I am looking at it now.

 

[woodbm]

I love the Camacho Connecticut. Especially the belicoso size. Would definitely recommend trying it.

 

[4cbln3]

While I don't smoke hardly any CT shade wrapped cigars, most have really been to mild for my taste. Ct shade wrapper leaf is mild. Now while you can definitely beef it up with some strong filler/binder combo, that would probably overpower the wrapper. So maybe because it is so mild there aren't too many options like there may be for other heartier types of wrapper. Who knows? I do have one every now and then and they are nice for a change of pace.

I feel you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned CT leaf is mild and is reserved, IMHO, for specifically, a milder cigar. I tend to smoke milder cigars in the morning w/ my coffee so at least I can interact with the world, otherwise I'd be spinning :laugh:

I like Oliva's newest creation, it allows me to vary between Baccarat, Park Ave., or other "go to" morning brands.

Dave

 

[uptown_isy]

I sell the crap out of these Oliva Conn Reserves. People love them. I tried one and I thought it was very tasty. But my mild cigar customers really love them. If you're into the mild Conn wrapped cigars, try the Rocky 99.