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On this Day, 1945

Devil Doc

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It was on this day in 1945 that Allied planes began the bombing of the German city of Dresden in World War II. At the beginning of the war, both Hitler and Churchill vowed that they would not attack civilian targets. But the German's broke their promise and used incendiary bombs on London, and Great Britain quickly followed suit. By 1943, the British had begun firebombing cities like Hamburg, creating firestorms that reached 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit, with hurricane-force winds, which boiled all the water in the city and sucked all the oxygen out of the atmosphere, killing tens of thousands of people. The Allied military commanders argued that saturation bombing of German cities was the only way to force the Nazis to surrender.

One of the cities on the list for possible firebombing was Dresden, long considered one of the most beautiful cities in Europe and often called Florence on the Elbe. It had also become a sanctuary for refugees from all over Germany. Allied military commanders considered it an appropriate target because it was a source of optical equipment used in German submarines and fighter planes.

But still, Dresden might not have been bombed on this day if it hadn't been for the good weather. When cloud breaks were reported over the city, the British RAF went ahead with the attack and dropped 2,700 tons of bombs on Dresden, half of them incendiary. An area of almost 13 square miles was totally destroyed. No one knows exactly how many people died. Estimates have ranged from 35,000 to more than 135,000.

One of the survivors was an American GI named Kurt Vonnegut, who'd been a prisoner of war since the Battle of the Bulge. The night of the bombing, he and his fellow prisoners were locked in a slaughterhouse underground, and when they climbed up to the surface after the bombing was over they found the city had been reduced to ashes. The Germans forced Vonnegut and his fellow soldiers to collect the bodies, and they found that most of the people had died of asphyxiation.

Vonnegut spent 20 years trying to write about the experience. He finally had to give up on writing a true account of the event, and instead wrote the novel Slaughterhouse Five (1969), because he said, "You can't remember pure nonsense. It was pure nonsense ... the destruction of that city." The war in Europe ended just three months after the bombing of Dresden.


Doc.
 
Wow - great stuff Doc.

The sheer madness of war, any war. Destructions, loss of life, who ALWAYS gains from it?

Brian
 
After reading Slaughter house 5 i wondered about the mind of a man that could write about such " nonsense", thanks for putting a little perspective on the subject. Thanks for the read, as always, very informative and interesting. :0
 
The bombing of Dresden had a major impact on the course of the war. Churchill was said to question the morality of using such tactics days after the bombing. German sources that reported the aftermath of the bombing have been accused of inflating the number of dead as a part of their propaganda campaign. Several historians think a more accurate number of civilians killed was between 25,000 on the low side to 40,000 on the high side. Never the less, this was a tragedy that led to many others.

Curtis LeMay studied the results of the Dresden bombing and chose to use incendiary bombs on Japanese civilian centers in 1944 and 1945. The number of Japanese killed will never be known, but estimates range from 1,000,000 to 2,000,000 killed. It is amazing that the Western world was shocked at the horrific deaths at Dresden but little to no attention was paid to the firebombing of Japan.
 
Vonnegut is one of my favorite authors, if you liked Slaughterhouse 5, try Mother Night, it is written in a simillar vein. The rest of his stuff is wildly funny, even if he does stick to pall-malls :D .

Billy
 
Vonnegut is one of my favorite authors also, and S.H. Five one of my all time favs.

Thanks for the history lesson Doc, I knew he was in the war, but didn't realize the level of the personal experience that went into that book (a pretty good movie too).

P.S. When the ice caps melt (if you believe in that sort of thing), I have some Ice 9 safely stored in a coolidor. :laugh:
 
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