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Pure Scumbag Part 2

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CalixEros

Big Building Builder
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Rochester, NY / Baltimore, MD
I figured I'd post this after reading IgwanaRob's scumbag story. This happened Monday night at work, and pissed me off all week. I've never had theft problems on my site this bad before, and this job is middle of no where South Carolina, where people I've met are generally pretty honest.

Some no good worthless pieces of **** hotwired the backhoe. He set up next to all the sub trailers, set down the outriggers, and started beating on them. They were all moved over a couple feet from beating on them so much. A couple even had holes gouged in them. They're all pretty bad, but you can't really tell from these pictures. They cleaned them all out; there was only one they couldn't get in to.

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Then they moved the backhoe and set up next to the office. They cut the chain holding the gangbox to the column and dragged it outside and beat it open with the backhoe. The worst part is these scumbags stole people's tool belts. That's not right, stealing the tools somebody needs to put food on their table. I only wished I could have caught them, then I'd be digging a couple extra holes in the back...

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This is the 3rd time our site has been hit. The electricians bought a $2k lock for the trailer after they got cleaned out once of ~10k worth of tools, all just about brand new. Then the other day they got hit again. The gangbox had a lot of the foreman's personal tools in it, including some expensive lasers. His company's insurance won't cover it and the company can't afford to cover it, so he's out half his tools. This type of stuff gets me so enraged. To make matters worse, they finally sent a detective out and he pretty much looked around for a few minutes and said sorry. There's been $20k+ worth of stuff taken from our site and we can't make things much more secure. The detective asked about some stuff we had stolen earlier, saying it's been used in other robberies to disable security cameras. I just thought he could have done a few more things to investigate...
 
Is your site secured with a fence? If so get a couple of Dogs, they are probably the BEST form of security, especially if they have a loud bark. I have a German Shepard in my house who would literally piss all over the floor if someone broke in, but she has a loud bark, and can look mean. You could also set up security cameras and an alarm, but all they are going to is record the crime or alert Police that a break in has occurred, not prevent one. At least with an alarm, get an outside audible(loud sucker), the bad guys are forced to act fast and can't spend all night breaking into things, hence get less, because they know the Cops are on the way. You could also hire on-site security at night, this is also a good deterrent.

The Best thing to Prevent is a Big Dog! :angry2:

As for the Detective, the value of your loss was huge, so I'm sure he is working the case. Even here in Kansas City, a property crime with that big of Loss would get a lot of attention. But, it is still only a property crime, so those usually take a back seat to violent crimes. Best thing you can do is Keep on that Detective's A$$, call him weekly and ask how the case is going. Call the Detective Sergeant in charge of the unit and ask him how things are going. Call the Captain, Lieutenant, and/or Major in charge of the Division. Ask all how things are going, Very Important, DO NOT BE AN A$$HOLE, But BE ANNOYING as well as NICE. Ask them if there is anything you can do to help them out in anyway. This shows everyone you are Very Concerned, but not trying to be a dick, and they will probably devoted any extra time into your case, just to get YOU off their back. :laugh:

Just a few thoughts, anyway, hopefully they catch those a$$holes. If there is anything I can do to help you out let me know.
 
being in construction for 25 years, i've experienced theft on the job many times, a lot of times it was an inside job. keep an eye out and see if anyone one acts differently. ugly i know, but reality. :angry2:
 
Apparantly the site does not have a security guard around at night? Whenever I do any contract work for Lifetime Fitness/LCA Construction, they always have a guy there all night usually starting around 7 or 8:00. And since I usually work in the evening (until around 2 or 3 am to avoid the congestion of all the other workers) I always end up getting checked by them every night.
 
Theft at construction is reaching epidemic proportions nationwide. Last month they hit our site and not only stole over 20K of tools and equipment but also got away with over 130K of building materials...framing lumber, OSB ply, millwork etc... I flat out don't leave any personal tools on site any more.
 
Sorry to hear that man. I've been on sites that have been vandalized and a few things stolen, but it sucks even more when you lose your personal tools! My old man is an electrician, got hit once (in his store room in an office building!) and learned his lesson. He can't lock the room (it belongs to the building) so what he did was set up a closed circuit camera and has the image projected on a TV. The TV is sitting right next to the door, so when you walk in, the first thing you see is your mug on the TV! The REALLY funny part, (that no one knows about) is that it isn't taping a damn thing! There is no VCR or anything, it just projects the image on the TV when you walk in. You could clean him out and no one would be the wiser, but since he has done that, he has not had a single problems since. Not so much as a switch plate has disappeared! Good luck getting all of that worked out. I think the dog is a good idea, but being a construction site, I guess that it might be difficult to figure out something to do with the dog once the construction project is over. Good luck!
 
Sorry to hear that Calix. I agree with the dog idea (if the site is fenced). Certainly a very good deterant. Also (if the site is fenced) I would invest in some razor-wire if it's not too cost constraining.

I certainly hope the POS' responsible get what's coming to them.
 
If they had enough privacy and time to fire up a backhoe and bash the $h!t out of some shipping containers, I'm not thinking anything that makes a loud sound would be a deterrent.
 
This is a food processing plant. They tend to build these things in the middle of nowhere for the cheap land. They had to be at it for a couple hours to do all this.

It usually is an inside job, but I can't think of anyone I would begin ti suspect that's working on site now. The site is not fenced, and the owner doesn't want to pay for one, so my hands are tied. I work for a very large company, so they won't allow a dog or anything that could cause them legal problems...

As for the investigation, I don't know all that much about police procedures. There were clear tire tracks leading up to the building and he never looked at wheelbase or type of tires. We told him they had to remove this locking bar from the inside of the big trailer they cleaned out and nobody's touched it, but he didn't print it or anything. I can get pretty much anybody's fingerprints legally that's working on our site in the event they got a suspect. Maybe I just watch too much tv and that's not how detectives work, but it just didn't seem like this was too important to them.
 
We just found out DeWalt makes a jobsite security system that uses motion sensors, locks with low voltage circuits that go off when cut, vibration sensors, etc. that are connected to a central alarm that notifies you by cell phone and the police if you choose when they go off. It seems like a pretty good system at a reasonable price, but this job is just about done so it will probably wait until the next time we have problems.
 
That really sucks..

But there is a reason you guys were hit 3 times.. its an easy mark.

You for sure have a guy or guys who know your schedule, and what you have to take.

Plus, they can operate the equipment! so they are probably on your crew.


Nobody would spend hours on a job site if they did not know what was going on.

These guys knew exactly what to take, when to do it and how to do it.

I would clean house and install security, but dont tell the rest of the crew.
 
Lumberg said:
If they had enough privacy and time to fire up a backhoe and bash the $h!t out of some shipping containers, I'm not thinking anything that makes a loud sound would be a deterrent.
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Have you ever tried to do something, that requires alittle bit of thinking, with a 130 decibel siren blaring in your ear? It's very painful as well as annoying!
 
CalixEros said:
As for the investigation, I don't know all that much about police procedures. There were clear tire tracks leading up to the building and he never looked at wheelbase or type of tires. We told him they had to remove this locking bar from the inside of the big trailer they cleaned out and nobody's touched it, but he didn't print it or anything. I can get pretty much anybody's fingerprints legally that's working on our site in the event they got a suspect. Maybe I just watch too much tv and that's not how detectives work, but it just didn't seem like this was too important to them.
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Best thing you can do is Keep on that Detective's A$$, call him weekly and ask how the case is going. Call the Detective Sergeant in charge of the unit and ask him how things are going. Call the Captain, Lieutenant, and/or Major in charge of the Division. Ask all how things are going, Very Important, DO NOT BE AN A$$HOLE, But BE ANNOYING as well as NICE. Ask them if there is anything you can do to help them out in anyway. This shows everyone you are Very Concerned, but not trying to be a dick, and they will probably devoted any extra time into your case, just to get YOU off their back.

Like I said above, this should take care of your concerns! :) The loudest voice is usually the one that gets heard.
 
This sh*t happens everyday to hundreds of jobsites across america. Thank goodness for insurance and understanding employees.

The sad part about the whole thing is that if they want your tools bad enough nothing is going to stop them.

Rich
 
I am a fire alarm contractor and as a small part of our business we install security systems. I have installed security systems in job site trailers with motion detectors in the trailer, a loud siren, and a connection to the central station by long range radio, so cutting the phone line is useless. I have on a few occassions ran a security cable from the trailer to tool boxes outside. Someone cutting the wire or disconnecting it would trip the alarm. Not rocket science. Get the owner to contact an alarm company near you.
Peter
 
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