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So whatdoya think?

Smokin'Tone

I just might be your huckleberry
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Well, whatdya think? 2.38 million a year not enough (average) for the players. You think they'll strike or not? Haven't heard anything as of 8.30p EST. Tomorrow is the lock out if they can't agree on the money garbage.

What do you think SHOULD be the new national passtime if your beginning to get sick of Baseball?
 
Stadium Herf Competition, who can smoke the most cigars per quarter, and you get extra points for Opus or Cusano Corojo
 
I think it WILL happen and I think its offensive. But I think it will be a short one.
 
I am sorry for my last post here, I know you guys are serious about this, but I think pro ball players are a bunch of whiny cry babies who are already overpaid and a strike is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Of course there are exceptions to my synopsis of their existance, but not many.I prefer to watch High School or College Ball. So if they do strike, I will have to say that it will not take any skin off of my nose.
 
Not real good timing for a strike. Football season's about to start. The baseball players will go on strike and nobody's gonna even notice.
 
I also think it is sad. The money they make is unbelievable. Im not a big Baseball fan, but this applies to all the major sports. I also watch a lot of High School and College. Geaux LSU!!! :D
 
FatherTiresius said:
Not real good timing for a strike.
Valid point and for three reasons:

1) The NFL is by far, the most popular league in the land right now and to give them more momentum would be virtual suicide.

2) September 11, 2002 will put things back into perspective for our nation and bickering over principles that apply to the most wealthy of our society will not reflect well on anyone associated with MLB. Think about it: What if President Bush was pushing for the Estate (aka Death) Tax to be repealed and was sitting out his job to get it done. I would not agree with the action, despite agreeing with the principle of doing away with such a tax. At this time, it would be incredibly short-sighted.

3) People still haven't made it back to the pro parks since 1994's disaster. If we miss another World Series or ALCS, I am pretty much gone. Golf is gaining steam with me anyway as a summer sport that fits my weekends-off schedule.

Hey, I love baseball and always will. Maybe now I will replace my Detroit Tigers cap with something more appropriate, like a Lions hat.
 
Geaux LSU!!!
Yeah, baby...YEAH!

How they looking this year? Sounds to me like it all depends on the quarterback position. If Mauck plays well they have a chance to repeat, if not....well it could be ugly. I guess we'll find out Saturday what they've got. Geaux Tigres!!!
 
LSU: Arguably the best college football setting in the world. I have heard that the Snake Pit is amazing.
 
the Snake Pit is amazing
Hmm, that would be Death Valley, right? Or are we talking about a different LSU? Tiger Stadium is indeed a remarkable place, it's now one of the 5 largest football stadiums I believe. It also has (or had when I went to school there) one of the largest student sections in the NCAA. Which accounts for the noise and intensity in that place.

Here's a story about Tiger Stadium...I don't know whether it's true or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was. C-dude, you can back me up here if you've heard this.

Most people don't know that Tiger Stadium is also a dormitory. The story I was told is that Huey Long (being such a rabid LSU fan), while governor of Louisiana, wanted a new football stadium for the Tigers. But the legislature wouldn't appropriate any money for such a frivolous purpose. So Huey asked them for money to build a new dorm on the LSU campus. Oh sure, said the legislators, for that you can have all the money you need. So Huey thanked them and took the money and had the contractor design a dormitory in the shape of a football stadium. :D
 
I gave up on major league baseball after their previous strike in the early 90's. If my annual salary was over two million dollars a year, never mind the contract endorsement income, I would wake up every day with an ear to ear smile on my face.

I don't care whether the players go out on strike or not, now that they are a non-factor with me.

What I WOULD like, is for the fans to go on strike to make THEIR point about player walkouts. I would love to see something like an All-Star game with ZERO people in the stands. Maybe that would open up the ball player's eyes and stop all of this millonaires on strike nonsense.

Sam
 
GO AHEAD AND STRIKE AND KILL BASEBALL FOR GOOD. IT HASN'T BEEN THE SAME SINCE THE 94' STIKE ANYWAY. IT IS A NOWIN SITUATION. IF THEY DON'T STRIKE THEY GET NO MORE MONEY, BUT IF THEY DO STRIKE BASEBALL IN A WHOLE BASEBALL LOOSES OUT. PEOPLE WILL QUIT WATCHING. I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A GAME SINCE 93'.
I HOPE THERE IS NO STRIKE BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY AREN'T LISTENING TO ME.
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Well, this comes a little late. Who cares. The whole sport could have gone away as far as I'm concerned. :lookup:
 
08/30/2002 12:02 pm ET

Deal in place, games go on
By Tom Singer / MLB.com

NEW YORK -- The sport with no clock completed one of its most memorable deadline performances in history Friday morning.


Major League Baseball owners and the players association -- through an exhaustive sequence of all-night discussions Thursday that led to a climactic late-morning gathering in Commissioner Bud Selig's office -- settled their differences on various off-the-field adjustments and, for the first time, successfully negotiated a collective bargaining agreement without enduring a work stoppage.

At 11:30 a.m., merely 90 minutes before the negotiating deadline set two weeks ago by the player, the Boston Red Sox climbed aboard buses outside Fenway Park. A bit later, the Cubs began taking batting practice in Wrigley Field. The Braves and Orioles were also given clearance to fly, to Montreal and Anaheim, respectively.

Baseball players and clubs mobilized around the nation as as word emanated from New York of an accord.

''I got a call at 10:50 (a.m.) Chicago time from Tony Bernazard (of the union)," said Joe Girardi, the Cubs' player representative. "He said, 'Call your guys and go to the ballpark.' I'm thrilled. I'm really happy to be going back, and I'm really thrilled for the game. I was optimistic all the time. People realize after '94 that we couldn't afford another one. We couldn't go down that road again.''

Don Fehr, executive director of the players association, and Selig held a joint press conference in New York at 1 p.m., during which each talked about "the long, hard and winding road" to the labor agreement.

Demonstrating a spirit of resolve and compromise not typically seen in the previous 30 years of the sport's management-union dealings, representatives of both sides went about the business of dealmaking as a strike deadline set two weeks earlier loomed a mere minutes away -- with one team, the Boston Red Sox, pushing back a charter flight to Cleveland by more than several hours after players gathered for further instructions in the Fenway Park clubhouse at 7:30 a.m..

As a result, the season picks up where it left off, and the game that has an average current player salary of $2.4 million can forge ahead with a system that should help narrow the talent gap between large- and small-revenue ballclubs.

The four-year CBA includes initiatives designed to more effectively address economic disparity among franchises -- expanding the use of local revenue sharing and a competitive balance tax on payrolls -- while at the same time elevating minimum salaries from $200,000 this season to $300,000 in 2003 and providing a $500 million benefit plan. Furthermore, a new rule that's part of the deal would shorten the four-year period to fund deferred contracts.

In an unprecedented gesture, players accepted a policy that authorizes random testing for steroid use -- a policy that originally was proposed by management as one with more substantial teeth.

The owners also pulled back on their plans to eliminate any teams, agreeing to not revisit contraction during the life of the agreement, set to expire on October 31, 2006.

The agreement also ensures harmony in a sport that risked being closed for business just days before the anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Friday's deal ends a negotation that intensified after the players set the deadline for Aug. 30 two weeks ago.

Those two rivals took the field on time and as scheduled, as will 28 other teams Friday night for a full slate of games kicking off the Labor Day weekend
 
It's a shame that teachers don't have a National Union like they do within the induividual states. That's one strike that I would be behind 100%.
 
Sam The Man said:
What I WOULD like, is for the fans to go on strike to make THEIR point about player walkouts. I would love to see something like an All-Star game with ZERO people in the stands. Maybe that would open up the ball player's eyes and stop all of this millonaires on strike nonsense.

Sam
Now there is an idea!!!

Now that the dust has settled, and those Millionaire crybabies have made a Pact, I say that the people who really pay all their salaries should do exactly as Sam has so elequintly (sp?) put. Let them play to a crowd of ZERO and get a feel of what really makes them the money. Then maybe next time they start wanting to squable over a few extra $1000 bills per game they will remember when the Fans went on Strike for better Players and Team Owners.

Call it "The Spectator Strike of 2002" The day the Park was empty!!

Take me out for a snow cone
Take me out for some beer
Don't even go neer the baseball park
The players and owners can fight in the dark
Well it's root, root root Beer and ice cream
That gives all my children a thrill
And it's 1...2....3 Strikes your out
Now it's NO Big Deal

:D :0 :sneaky:
 
no strike but I really could care less, still won't be able to take my boy to a game wothout spending the big $$$$ Thanks players, managers, and owners. I guess we can thank ourselves for taking it.
Me, I'll be going to see the San Antonio Missions (minors).
 
From what I understood, 1 point of conflict was that the players are not getting as much money as they could be getting. The owners are making apparently infinitely more than the players receive. Well what the hell else is new. I certainly don't make as much money as the owner of the company I work for. Does anyone? Besides, if I make $5.25 /hour, I will be dissatisfied if the owners of the company i work for are making millions and my wage would stay the same. If I make millions a/year and the owners of the company I work for are making trillions...I don't think I'd mind too much. I mean at what point does it stop being about principle and become more about greed? "ITS NOT RIGHT, I SHOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT COLORED VETTE FOR EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, I'M TIRED OF BEING OPRESSED BY THOSE DAMN GREEDY OWNERS!"
....C'mon give me a break.... ???
 
BASEBALL, WHO GIVES A RATS A--!!! OVER PAID, UNDER WORKED BABY'S!! (sorry for screaming). As with all professional sports owners, players and all involved they are more concerned with the mighty $$$$! And they all what to be our heroes? back in the 50's, 60's and 70's those were players that played for the love of the sport and the admiration of the fans! Give me college football or give me death!!!!!! GO WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sneaky:
 
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