Weapon/Ammo Storage braggin'

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AVB

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As some of you may know gun safes aren't really safes. Most are "Residential Security Containers" which only require 12 gauge steel and not many will stop a good cordless grinder so whatever you get is really going to be based on how long you want to keep the criminals busy, how much storage you need and how pretty do you want it to look. For the Corps a gun safe that was in an area accessed by those that didn't have weapons authorization had to be a minimum of 1/4" plate steel and pretty much be equal to a TL-30 rating (attack with tools for 30 minutes) You won't find a "gun safe" with a TL-30 rating for under $5K

That said, I have a pretty decent unit for my stuff but I have some that aren't that valuable, that I don't shoot much or that I want to move out to make some room for new or better toys. Plus I really have wanted someplace to put all that ammo. So I've been looking for an ammo safe not as a replacement but as an augment to make it a bit harder to steal a few thousand rounds.
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Last night I stole this one - a Mesa Safe MGL36-AS-C. If you do a search you'll see what the normal cost is. I got it on closeout for under $500 delivered. Should be here next week.
 
That is a hell of a deal Ray! My buddy who is a locksmith recommended these over the usual suspects like Liberty Safes etc. Says they have a great burn rating and one of the hardest drill plates he’s ever seen. I’ve been on the fence about upgrading and the cheapest I’ve ever seen was around $1k. I considered that a deal.
 
jfields said:
That is a hell of a deal Ray! My buddy who is a locksmith recommended these over the usual suspects like Liberty Safes etc. Says they have a great burn rating and one of the hardest drill plates he’s ever seen. I’ve been on the fence about upgrading and the cheapest I’ve ever seen was around $1k. I considered that a deal.
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I was looking hard at Steelwater safes too but instead of getting one big safe I decided that 2 would work out better for me. If I see anything I'll PM you but you'd have to act fast. There were 2 more of the one I got and by the time I finished my order both were gone.
 
Looks like a good deal, Ray.

If they bring a grinder and have time, someone that knows what they are doing can get into almost anything. The trick is to lay the safe on its face and cut the back open. What you can do is make it so hard to get into, most grab and run guys will move on to easier targets.

My safe weighs an honest 1000 pounds, and has a hell of a thick door with multiple bolts. It got multiple lag bolts through it into the floor joists and the wall studs behind it. It also sits in front of a monitored motion detector. It'll stop all but the most determined and savy dirtbag. Oh, and the alarm is going off so their time is short. Short of a real concrete vault with a serious door, it's about the best you can do.
 
BlindedByScience said:
Looks like a good deal, Ray.

If they bring a grinder and have time, someone that knows what they are doing can get into almost anything. The trick is to lay the safe on its face and cut the back open. What you can do is make it so hard to get into, most grab and run guys will move on to easier targets.

My safe weighs an honest 1000 pounds, and has a hell of a thick door with multiple bolts. It got multiple lag bolts through it into the floor joists and the wall studs behind it. It also sits in front of a monitored motion detector. It'll stop all but the most determined and savy dirtbag. Oh, and the alarm is going off so their time is short. Short of a real concrete vault with a serious door, it's about the best you can do.
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My little 16 rifle safe clocks in at 750 lbs and is bolted into concrete as this one will be too. The trade off is the more holes you put in the safe the less fire protection you have too and even that depends on how well you think weapons will actually hold up if heated to 350 degrees for an hour (a standard internal rating). The reason thieves like to lay down a safe is leverage for prying since they can cut the sides just as easily as the back.

There was an real bank safe, not the vault itself but a safe in the vault that was for sale I was thinking about. They only wanted $1200 for it but it would have cost me over $2K to move it 40 miles and install the 2 ton beast. Sure would have been impressive if not beyond what I would ever need though.
 
I'm glad I live so close to the local PD and have a burglar alarm. Kept me from having to go that extreme on my safe.

Wish I had a Graffunder TL just for bragging rights, but damn you almost need a reinforced foundation to support it.
 
OK, so it arrived, I put it in place bolted it into the concrete floor and put all my ammo in it. 8,000 rounds later and I have a case of ammo insufficiency. Even with all the other things I put in I could double the amount of ammo before filling it up. It looks sad because there is so much empty space. I shoot the bigger stuff too, no wimpy 5.56 or 9 mil, it is all 7.62, 40 S&W, 10 mil and 45. Maybe another 600-800 rounds will at least make it look over half full. If I stopped using ammo cans I bet I could hit 30,000 rounds easy. Nothing like having a goal. :)
 
....like getting a Staebell cabinet. You load your collection in and it occurs to you how much more room you have....
 
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