California Unflavored Tobacco Law Registration Deadline Passes- Dunbarton pulls out!

[rbbrock]

Unfortunately they could care less about them not playing along. Thats not want they want.

If more companies did this on enough different issues to impact more of the population, they may eventually get fed up with it. Sure, one cigar company stopping doesn't make much difference other than an inconvenience. But if most cigar companies stopped, and most gun makers stopped, and most diesel vehicle manufacturers, and most outdoor equipment manufacturers, and most of every other industry that is stiflingly overregulated... Eventually people will get sick of not being able to buy the products they want, that their friends and family in other states can.

 

[cohibasurfer]

That's the stupid part. Sure, they could sue. For what? It's bullshit overreach and they know it. But as you said, they're playing with unlimited house money, versus making the retailer pay out of pocket for counsel. An almost exact parallel to the 2A issues, which I am also a big proponent of. We call it "lawfare" (instead of warfare) in that community. Thankfully there has been a lot of good headway made on that issue lately, though still a ways to go. As you said, there is no grassroots National Cigar Association or equivalent, nor are cigars/smoking covered in the Constitution, so we truly are at the mercy of the state legislatures.

I am glad to see some companies telling CA to stuff it, though. I'm sick of them thinking they can control the entire market on various issues (gas cans, "Prop 65" warnings, diesel trucks, vehicle emissions, etc.). No offense to the CA members here, but that state needs to stay in its own fucking lane and let the rest of the country drive in ours.

It's the politicians. Don't confuse us citizens with them. Everything is rigged. We can't vote them out. It's going to take an uprising.

 

[rbbrock]

It's the politicians. Don't confuse us citizens with them.

I know, hence why I said no offense to the members like you. I get that you're outnumbered. Buuuutttt:

Everything is rigged. We can't vote them out. It's going to take an uprising.

If enough people there didn't keep voting for it, and/or putting up with the rigged system, it wouldn't keep happening.

 

[cohibasurfer]

I know, hence why I said no offense to the members like you. I get that you're outnumbered. Buuuutttt:


If enough people there didn't keep voting for it, and/or putting up with the rigged system, it wouldn't keep happening.

Voting is rigged. Like I said to fix that people are going to have to take matters in their hands. Nobody wants that. But.... as time goes on.... they will get their way.

 

[Rod]

Voting is rigged. Like I said to fix that people are going to have to take matters in their hands. Nobody wants that. But.... as time goes on.... they will get their way.

Yep, lived in this state for 46 years. It's 100% rigged. It's time for the wave to turn... Cost of living here is through the roof, and gets worse every year. Where do all of the tax dollars go??? Oh, I know...

 

[Scap]

Sounds like Saka is a fan of Barrett.
Barrett gave Cali the middle finger regarding .50 cal rifles.

 

[MaytagMan]

Somebody needs to start an anonymous cigar drop ship company in Texas.

 

[TexasTraveler]

Somebody needs to start an anonymous cigar drop ship company in Texas.

"The Cigar Drop" has a nice ring to it...

 

[CigarStone]

It's the politicians. Don't confuse us citizens with them. Everything is rigged. We can't vote them out. It's going to take an uprising.

The unfortunate truth Michael is that the politicians act on behalf of the nitwits who elect them. And in California, the vast majority of residents are nitwits.
There should be a warning on cigars sold in California:

"Smoking cigars is known to the state of California to cause reasonably intelligent thought processes which is known to the state of California to be detrimental to the state of California"

 

[cohibasurfer]

The unfortunate truth Michael is that the politicians act on behalf of the nitwits who elect them. And in California, the vast majority of residents are nitwits.
There should be a warning on cigars sold in California:

"Smoking cigars is known to the state of California to cause reasonably intelligent thought processes which is known to the state of California to be detrimental to the state of California"

I believe that's a common misconception of non Californians. Most of the nitwits in Cal don't even vote. But I do believe ballots are cast on their behalf. I don't belong to either of the 2 corrupt party's. But with all I see... California is a red state. But the elections are rigged to tell a different story. I know it's hard to believe in a rigged election.... but the whole country thinks 2 airplanes took down 3 sky scrapers in New York... so.

 

[CigarStone]

I believe that's a common misconception of non Californians. Most of the nitwits in Cal don't even vote. But I do believe ballots are cast on their behalf. I don't belong to either of the 2 corrupt party's. But with all I see... California is a red state. But the elections are rigged to tell a different story. I know it's hard to believe in a rigged election.... but the whole country thinks 2 airplanes took down 3 sky scrapers in New York... so.

Oh, I don't think it's at all difficult to believe in a rigged election!

 

[whopper]

So if Rocky Patel has what 40 - 60 different vitolas, he has to send one box of each to the AG's office? Really a pity the entire industry didn't pull out. Be one hell of a war dance around the capital. Asshats!

I watched a YouTube video where Pete Johnson of Tatuaje addressed this.

He said they had to send in one cigar and an empty box for each unique cigar, they wished to sell in California.

Added the video. It’s 2 hours long:

 

[hydro-terp]

I watched a YouTube video where Pete Johnson of Tatuaje addressed this.

He said they had to send in one cigar and an empty box for each unique cigar, they wished to sell in California.

Lol that sounds a lot like the thing you had to do for years here in the peoples republic. Every handgun sold had to include a fired casing to submit to the state police. That went on for like 10 years and there was never a single crime solved from any of them.

HT

 

[Ralph]

I watched a YouTube video where Pete Johnson of Tatuaje addressed this.

He said they had to send in one cigar and an empty box for each unique cigar, they wished to sell in California.

Added the video. It’s 2 hours long:

One cigar and an empty box? You can't build up a humidor like that!

 

[TexasTraveler]

One cigar and an empty box? You can't build up a humidor like that!

Let's test that theory... Everyone on CP should send me a box with one cigar in it, starting with you,

 

[Ralph]

Let's test that theory... Everyone on CP should send me a box with one cigar in it, starting with you,

 

[CigarStone]

Let's test that theory... Everyone on CP should send me a box with one cigar in it, starting with you,

Aaron, as a Cowboys fan, you should know the results of a horribly lopsided trade!

If I spend the time to go to the drugstore and buy a pack of Backwoods Cigars, figure out what to do with the other nine, and mail you the one cigar, in its bag, there has got to be something in it for me?

Maybe a couple boxes of Cohiba reboostos and a box to be named later?

 

[CigarStone]

I believe that's a common misconception of non Californians. Most of the nitwits in Cal don't even vote. But I do believe ballots are cast on their behalf. I don't belong to either of the 2 corrupt party's. But with all I see... California is a red state. But the elections are rigged to tell a different story. I know it's hard to believe in a rigged election.... but the whole country thinks 2 airplanes took down 3 sky scrapers in New York... so.

I think you hit the nail on the head!

The dead people, and illegal aliens, who somehow elect the politicians in California are the ones being represented by said politicians.