So… We’re Allowed to Want to Buy Cigars, Just Not Good Ones?

[bluue13]

I love when asshats like this come around and think they’re gonna dismantle the whole operation or have us like “ohhhh damn you’re right! We need to change everything about this place for you!”

I’m gonna go smoke all 5 of my glass top LE’s at once with Todd now…

 

[Thoughts]

I'm gonna double down.....someone kicked his dog

 

[MrPerfecto]

You sure are caught up on fake cuban cigars and willing to die on that hill. Show us proof that this board is smoking 99% fake cuban cigars.

There’s a big difference between someone stating an opinion (which is what I did — “that’s just me”) and someone trying to defend a position with logic that… well… let’s just say wouldn’t pass a high-school debate club audition.

Stating something as fact with zero evidence? Yeah, that’s a fallacy. Stating an opinion based on research and the well-known reality of a massively faked market? That’s just common sense. You might want to brush up on Logic 101 — no shade, just saying I can’t be the only one seeing these philosophical potholes.

And listen, I get it. Really, I do. Gold star for effort. A+ for trying. But you’re missing the point by a country mile. I could write a whole dissertation on the flawed arguments used by the forum’s resident “wolf pack” — you know, the crew that circles newbs like they’re guarding Fort Knox, while claiming they’re just “experienced enthusiasts.”

It’s wild: you’re all apparently skilled enough to identify real Cubans from fakes at ten paces… but not quite skilled enough to simply scroll past a new guy asking for rare cigars. Instead, you need guard rails, a safety net, and an emotional support moderator.

The wolf pack energy is strong here. The old-timers love it. I get it — it must be fun, in a National Geographic kind of way. But let’s not pretend it’s anything more noble than what it is.

 

[MrPerfecto]

I love when asshats like this come around and think they’re gonna dismantle the whole operation or have us like “ohhhh damn you’re right! We need to change everything about this place for you!”

I’m gonna go smoke all 5 of my glass top LE’s at once with Todd now…

So now we’re doing personal insults?
Love that. Classic move.
It’s always funny when someone rolls in acting like they’re the final boss of logic and expects the whole forum to collapse in shame because they dropped a spicy paragraph.
But hey you and Todd enjoy those five glass top LEs.
That’s a bold pairing: premium tobacco with premium denial.


Light ’em all at once. Really complete the ritual.

 

[Smart Ash]

There’s a big difference between someone stating an opinion (which is what I did — “that’s just me”) and someone trying to defend a position with logic that… well… let’s just say wouldn’t pass a high-school debate club audition.


Stating something as fact with zero evidence? Yeah, that’s a fallacy. Stating an opinion based on research and the well-known reality of a massively faked market? That’s just common sense. You might want to brush up on Logic 101 — no shade, just saying I can’t be the only one seeing these philosophical potholes.


And listen, I get it. Really, I do. Gold star for effort. A+ for trying. But you’re missing the point by a country mile. I could write a whole dissertation on the flawed arguments used by the forum’s resident “wolf pack” — you know, the crew that circles newbs like they’re guarding Fort Knox, while claiming they’re just “experienced enthusiasts.”


It’s wild: you’re all apparently skilled enough to identify real Cubans from fakes at ten paces… but not quite skilled enough to simply scroll past a new guy asking for rare cigars. Instead, you need guard rails, a safety net, and an emotional support moderator.


The wolf pack energy is strong here. The old-timers love it. I get it — it must be fun, in a National Geographic kind of way. But let’s not pretend it’s anything more noble than what it is.

Ummm did you pay to be a member here? Are you trying to get your money back or something? If your membership was free, why do you continue posting and interacting with wolves and animals that you clearly have an issue with? It’s interesting to me that a group of guys on the internet have so much power over you. Let it go…

 

[MrPerfecto]

Ummm did you pay to be a member here? Are you trying to get your money back or something? If your membership was free, why do you continue posting and interacting with wolves and animals that you clearly have an issue with? It’s interesting to me that a group of guys on the internet have so much power over you. Let it go…

Why can’t you let it go?
You’re preaching “move on,” but you’re here replying to me like it’s a full-time job. Practice what you preach, my friend.
And no I’m not trying to get a refund on my free membership. I’m just pointing out something everyone already knows: the wolf-pack routine gets out of hand when it turns into public humiliation of people who probably don’t deserve it.
Funny thing is, I’ve actually helped a few new folks here. I knew this wolf-pack vibe existed long ago, but lately it’s like watching a village witch hunt everyone cheering, dancing, clapping while someone gets roasted for asking a question.
To that person, you’re rude and unwelcoming. To each other, you’re performing a comedy show.

I’m just saying the quiet part out loud.

 

[insight]

Show me lots of examples then. Not just one. Lots. Otherwise I will just chalk this up as a bare assertion fallacy. I have yet to see it happen in my time here. You would think those guys would have been publicly blasted here. Have yet to see that. Just newbs inquiring.

Why- who are you for me to prove I’m not making bare assertions? If you want to go hunt down misdeeds from 20-25 years ago go ahead. I already put in my work exposing scum, and if you don’t know what that means it sort of demonstrates a lack of situational awareness and exactly who you are talking to, considering your length of time on the board.

 

[MrPerfecto]

Why- who are you for me to prove I’m not making bare assertions? If you want to go hunt down misdeeds from 20-25 years ago go ahead. I already put in my work exposing scum, and if you don’t know what that means it sort of demonstrates a lack of situational awareness and exactly who you are talking to, considering your length of time on the board.

So your evidence is… archaeology?
I asked for proof from this century, and you hit me with:
“Go dig through the ruins of 2001 and you’ll see.”
Bro, I asked for receipts, not a History Channel assignment.
I’m not firing up a dial-up modem to research ancient cigar crimes.
And this whole “if you don’t know who I am, you lack situational awareness” routine?
Relax, Batman.
This is a cigar forum, not Gotham City.
If the strength of your argument depends on me decoding events from the Bush administration era, then maybe just maybe — your argument needs a tune-up.
But hey, thank you for your courageous past service in the War on Forum Scumbags™.

Truly, the unsung hero we didn’t know we had.

 

[bluue13]

So now we’re doing personal insults?
Love that. Classic move.
It’s always funny when someone rolls in acting like they’re the final boss of logic and expects the whole forum to collapse in shame because they dropped a spicy paragraph.
But hey you and Todd enjoy those five glass top LEs.
That’s a bold pairing: premium tobacco with premium denial.


Light ’em all at once. Really complete the ritual.

Absolutely. Calling it as I see it. Isn’t it also funny that you’re doing the exact thing you just stated above? If you don’t like it here move on. You’re not going to change how it’s done here.

 

[MrPerfecto]

Absolutely. Calling it as I see it. Isn’t it also funny that you’re doing the exact thing you just stated above? If you don’t like it here move on. You’re not going to change how it’s done here.

Ah, the classic “If you don’t like it, leave” defense.
Timeless. Elegant. Always the final refuge of someone out of material.
And no, I’m not “doing the same thing” pointing out contradictions isn’t the same as handing out personal insults like party favors.
But I get it.
Traditions matter here.
Glass-top LEs, wolf-pack pile-ons, and the sacred mantra:
“Change nothing. Ever.”
Don’t worry I’m not trying to remodel the forum.
I’m just narrating the comedy show as it unfolds.

Carry on. I’ll grab some popcorn.

 

[insight]

So your evidence is… archaeology?
I asked for proof from this century, and you hit me with:
“Go dig through the ruins of 2001 and you’ll see.”
Bro, I asked for receipts, not a History Channel assignment.
I’m not firing up a dial-up modem to research ancient cigar crimes.
And this whole “if you don’t know who I am, you lack situational awareness” routine?
Relax, Batman.
This is a cigar forum, not Gotham City.
If the strength of your argument depends on me decoding events from the Bush administration era, then maybe just maybe — your argument needs a tune-up.
But hey, thank you for your courageous past service in the War on Forum Scumbags™.

Truly, the unsung hero we didn’t know we had.

 

[bluue13]

Carry on. I’ll grab some popcorn.

Just recording for posterity.

Where’s that hammer…

 

[MrPerfecto]

Just recording for posterity.

Where’s that hammer…

Ah yes, "recording for posterity."
Nothing says totally not bothered like documenting forum banter like it’s going into the Library of Congress.
And the “Where’s that hammer…” bit?
Relax Thor it’s a cigar forum, not Ragnarök.

If you swing it too hard you might crack one of those precious glass-tops.

 

[Scap]

I fixed it on my end.

 

[MrPerfecto]

I fixed it on my end.
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Ah yes the classic “I’m ignoring you” announcement.
Truly one of the great forum traditions.
Nothing says “I’m unbothered” quite like…
publicly telling everyone you’re bothered.
I love when someone is so determined to “ignore” me that they take the time to:

• click my profile,
• navigate to my post,
• type a dramatic exit note,
• and then post it in my thread so everyone can witness the ceremony.

That’s not ignoring that’s a press release.

If anything, this man didn’t ignore me.
He notified the entire tribe that he is beginning his ignoring journey.
A ribbon-cutting event.

Honestly?
It’s adorable.
Peak wolf-pack theater.
The equivalent of a wolf blowing a tiny horn to announce he’s walking away.

 

[BlindedByScience]

What I don't get is.....what is it you want..?? Do you have cigars to sell, are you looking to buy some, want a rule changed....?? Seriously, is there something you'd like to achieve..?? If so, let's actually discuss. Keep in mind this forum has been around a very long time, far longer than your or my membership, and it's worked pretty well, so far. Lots of contributors think so. Rules exist for a reason and because of precedence.

Or, did you just swing by to piss on the membership to make it all smell better....?? Looking like the latter to me. Tiny horn blowing, indeed.

 

[smellysell]

You're all wasting your breath, he clearly has made up his mind and is just trolling at this point.

 

[Johnny-O!]

What I don't get is.....what is it you want..?? Do you have cigars to sell, are you looking to buy some, want a rule changed....?? Seriously, is there something you'd like to achieve..?? If so, let's actually discuss. Keep in mind this forum has been around a very long time, far longer than your or my membership, and it's worked pretty well, so far. Lots of contributors think so. Rules exist for a reason and because of precedence.

Or, did you just swing by to piss on the membership to make it all smell better....?? Looking like the latter to me. Tiny horn blowing, indeed.

All trolls have one thing in common. Some deep seated trauma from their childhood and the internet is their place to fight that monster. I dunno, maybe he was gang banged by a pack of wolves in his grandmothers basement. At OLH we had a guy named Senor Perfecto who was going to tell the owner of the web site how to run things. He got bounced. I wonder if this is the same dude. The time frame is right.

 

[insight]

All trolls have one thing in common. Some deep seated trauma from their childhood and the internet is their place to fight that monster. I dunno, maybe he was gang banged by a pack of wolves in his grandmothers basement. At OLH we had a guy named Senor Perfecto who was going to tell the owner of the web site how to run things. He got bounced. I wonder if this is the same dude. The time frame is right.

Wade surely loved that, he is a big fan of being told how to run his board by strangers.

 

[Rod]

@MrPerfecto I have one question for you... Why are you having AI literally write your entire posts for you? You seriously can't hold a conversation without having AI write for you? That says a lot...

Carry on with your crash-out...