My neighborhood has officially gone to hell

[bilder]

Been a long time coming.

Last night just before midnight, the wife and I heard some shouting coming from next door. My wife saw a couple of folks pushing a fellow out the front door and a bunch of shouting. There had been some yelling going on over there earlier in the day and I took it that some serious drinking had been going on.

About three minutes later there is a knock on the door. It is the guy who got kicked out of the house next door. I open the door and immediately see that he is bleeding from the neck. He was so drunk that he could barely stand, but managed to ask if I could call the police. He was stabbed dead center in his throat, how he could talk I do not know.

I brought him in and called the cops while doing what I could for his wound. Guess his "friends" had some words with him and he got stabbed by the other guy next door. About three minutes later every cop in town is in my front yard. Shotguns, rifles, dogs, the works. Thank God my kids were asleep.

The cops took the vicitm over to the paramedics (they did not want to get anywhere near the action) and then they proceeded to talk my neighbors out of their home. For a moment I thought that the guy next door was going to be stupid and get himself shot, but they managed to get him to come out after 20 minutes or so.

Spent the next couple hours talking to the cops and having them photo the blood on my door. They finally finished up next door and I got to clean the blood off my door and entry way floor.

This area used to be a decent place to live (for a trailer park), but it has really gone downhill the last couple of years. Seems I have been calling the cops more and more lately. My wife is talking of selling out and moving now. I would be inclined to wait till spring when it would be easier to get the place ready for sale.

What a night.

 

[Swissy]

Been a long time coming.

Last night just before midnight, the wife and I heard some shouting coming from next door. My wife saw a couple of folks pushing a fellow out the front door and a bunch of shouting. There had been some yelling going on over there earlier in the day and I took it that some serious drinking had been going on.

About three minutes later there is a knock on the door. It is the guy who got kicked out of the house next door. I open the door and immediately see that he is bleeding from the neck. He was so drunk that he could barely stand, but managed to ask if I could call the police. He was stabbed dead center in his throat, how he could talk I do not know.

I brought him in and called the cops while doing what I could for his wound. Guess his "friends" had some words with him and he got stabbed by the other guy next door. About three minutes later every cop in town is in my front yard. Shotguns, rifles, dogs, the works. Thank God my kids were asleep.

The cops took the vicitm over to the paramedics (they did not want to get anywhere near the action) and then they proceeded to talk my neighbors out of their home. For a moment I thought that the guy next door was going to be stupid and get himself shot, but they managed to get him to come out after 20 minutes or so.

Spent the next couple hours talking to the cops and having them photo the blood on my door. They finally finished up next door and I got to clean the blood off my door and entry way floor.

This area used to be a decent place to live (for a trailer park), but it has really gone downhill the last couple of years. Seems I have been calling the cops more and more lately. My wife is talking of selling out and moving now. I would be inclined to wait till spring when it would be easier to get the place ready for sale.

What a night.

That sucks...never a fun situation to be in, I'm sure. As far as the medics not WANTING to be there, I can tell you they actually do. But our standard protocol is to stage away from the scene - and not approach until the police radio us that the area is secure. That way we don't have medics, who are there to help, shot, stabbed, beaten and God knows what else- it's happened before. I can tell you that is SUCKS... sitting there in a rig, away from the scene, watching someone waves us in, pointing to the victim, wondering why we're not moving, all the while knowing that someone desperately needs you. There have been times where we broke protocol, which was the best thing for the patient, but we ended up in the middle of a very, very bad situation. We got our asses handed to us officially, and a pat on the back unofficially.

The latest trend, I'm sure you've noticed, it to remove the trailer parks in town and they're putting up the site condos. Give them a few years, and they'll be even worse. Moutain View all over again!

Good thing you're ok...

 

[Saxjazzman]

I am glad that you all were safe. The truth be told, the 'good' neighborhoods are getting rarer and rarer these days. I think it may be safer on the battlefield!! :blush:

 

[dk_ace]

Been a long time coming.

Last night just before midnight, the wife and I heard some shouting coming from next door. My wife saw a couple of folks pushing a fellow out the front door and a bunch of shouting. There had been some yelling going on over there earlier in the day and I took it that some serious drinking had been going on.

About three minutes later there is a knock on the door. It is the guy who got kicked out of the house next door. I open the door and immediately see that he is bleeding from the neck. He was so drunk that he could barely stand, but managed to ask if I could call the police. He was stabbed dead center in his throat, how he could talk I do not know.

I brought him in and called the cops while doing what I could for his wound. Guess his "friends" had some words with him and he got stabbed by the other guy next door. About three minutes later every cop in town is in my front yard. Shotguns, rifles, dogs, the works. Thank God my kids were asleep.

The cops took the vicitm over to the paramedics (they did not want to get anywhere near the action) and then they proceeded to talk my neighbors out of their home. For a moment I thought that the guy next door was going to be stupid and get himself shot, but they managed to get him to come out after 20 minutes or so.

Spent the next couple hours talking to the cops and having them photo the blood on my door. They finally finished up next door and I got to clean the blood off my door and entry way floor.

This area used to be a decent place to live (for a trailer park), but it has really gone downhill the last couple of years. Seems I have been calling the cops more and more lately. My wife is talking of selling out and moving now. I would be inclined to wait till spring when it would be easier to get the place ready for sale.

What a night.

That sucks...never a fun situation to be in, I'm sure. As far as the medics not WANTING to be there, I can tell you they actually do. But our standard protocol is to stage away from the scene - and not approach until the police radio us that the area is secure. That way we don't have medics, who are there to help, shot, stabbed, beaten and God knows what else- it's happened before. I can tell you that is SUCKS... sitting there in a rig, away from the scene, watching someone waves us in, pointing to the victim, wondering why we're not moving, all the while knowing that someone desperately needs you. There have been times where we broke protocol, which was the best thing for the patient, but we ended up in the middle of a very, very bad situation. We got our asses handed to us officially, and a pat on the back unofficially.

The latest trend, I'm sure you've noticed, it to remove the trailer parks in town and they're putting up the site condos. Give them a few years, and they'll be even worse. Moutain View all over again!

Good thing you're ok...

We were told not to go near the action, but to send the "copometers" in. I never really listened to that, but I thought the term was funny. The advice was particularly for toxic spills on the highway. They told us to grab binoculars and check on them every few minutes to see if they were still standing before we went in.

I'm sorry to hear about your neighborhood though. My wife and I dealt with a bad apartment for a few months when we moved to this area. I spent way too many nights with a loaded shotgun at arm's length. My advice is to get out of there ASAP. Your peace of mind alone is worth it.

I know that's easier said than done, but you might want to give it some serious thought. I didn't think we could move because we were in a year lease, but I negotiated with them for about two weeks and got it down to a thirty day notice and reletting charge. It doesn't usually go that smoothly, but it is possible.

D

 

[bilder]

The cops were commenting on how the ambulance would not come any closer. The suspect was behind my place, so they could have pulled up front with no danger at all. I think the cops did not like the idea of hauling a bleeding drunk through the snow any farther than they had to.

Been enjoying a very quiet day today. Amazing how the traffic level has dropped off when everyone next door is in jail.

 

[Swissy]

Well, I can say that the info we get over the radio is minimal at best - there is no way for use to 'decipher' what we're being told. If they say we're responding to a stabbing/shooting/fight victim, stage for APD... well, we respond and stage until APD tells us we're clear to enter. I've been in too many fights with drunks/wifes/husbands/brothers/sisters/sons/etc... because they did not want us treating 'so and so'. And a lot of times it's because someone thought it was safe to enter before the cops even got there, but if someone goes rushing in we can't just let them go alone. I've been swung at, threatened with a knife, gun, pitpull, rottwieler, baseball bat and a few other sharp pointy objects. They don't pay me enough to jump in front of a knife, gun or person with ill will towards me or my crew. That's why they give cops guns and us bandaids and hoses. Going to court to testify about these incidents SUCKS... about the lowest form of fun I can think of regarding my job. Nowadays, I'm more than happy to fetch the gurney and let the new kids tussle with some 300 pound gorilla that doesn't want us in his house.

Funny thing about the cops commenting - more than once we've been yelled at for coming in without a radio call - even after a cop waved us in at the door.

 

[bilder]

Well, I can say that the info we get over the radio is minimal at best - there is no way for use to 'decipher' what we're being told. If they say we're responding to a stabbing/shooting/fight victim, stage for APD... well, we respond and stage until APD tells us we're clear to enter. I've been in too many fights with drunks/wifes/husbands/brothers/sisters/sons/etc... because they did not want us treating 'so and so'. And a lot of times it's because someone thought it was safe to enter before the cops even got there, but if someone goes rushing in we can't just let them go alone. I've been swung at, threatened with a knife, gun, pitpull, rottwieler, baseball bat and a few other sharp pointy objects. They don't pay me enough to jump in front of a knife, gun or person with ill will towards me or my crew. That's why they give cops guns and us bandaids and hoses. Going to court to testify about these incidents SUCKS... about the lowest form of fun I can think of regarding my job. Nowadays, I'm more than happy to fetch the gurney and let the new kids tussle with some 300 pound gorilla that doesn't want us in his house.

Funny thing about the cops commenting - more than once we've been yelled at for coming in without a radio call - even after a cop waved us in at the door.

From what I saw last night, I can understand the lack of communication. They were having enough trouble talking to each other let alone someone else.

The owners son-in-law stopped by a few minutes ago. They are evicting the renters and will be living next door themselves for the rest of the winter. This is great news as the son-in law and his wife are the only sober members of that family I have met.

 

[hoshnasi]

Well, I can say that the info we get over the radio is minimal at best - there is no way for use to 'decipher' what we're being told. If they say we're responding to a stabbing/shooting/fight victim, stage for APD... well, we respond and stage until APD tells us we're clear to enter. I've been in too many fights with drunks/wifes/husbands/brothers/sisters/sons/etc... because they did not want us treating 'so and so'. And a lot of times it's because someone thought it was safe to enter before the cops even got there, but if someone goes rushing in we can't just let them go alone. I've been swung at, threatened with a knife, gun, pitpull, rottwieler, baseball bat and a few other sharp pointy objects. They don't pay me enough to jump in front of a knife, gun or person with ill will towards me or my crew. That's why they give cops guns and us bandaids and hoses. Going to court to testify about these incidents SUCKS... about the lowest form of fun I can think of regarding my job. Nowadays, I'm more than happy to fetch the gurney and let the new kids tussle with some 300 pound gorilla that doesn't want us in his house.

Funny thing about the cops commenting - more than once we've been yelled at for coming in without a radio call - even after a cop waved us in at the door.

Stay safe buddy. I'm thankful for the work you do. I am sorry you have/had to deal with things like that for simply trying to help injured people.

I think in my younger days (I know I am only 25) I would say "Defend yourself, be ready for living in a bad area. train your body and your mind." Nowadays, I thinks its best living the civilized way when you have the choice to do so and get out of there. I understand if you can't, I really do. I have lived in some bad areas, both as a child and an adult.

 

[npedersen]

Damn- just read the thread! I bought a house with an RV park behind us. Narrow minded that I was at the time I thought that was going to be the hot spot. Boy was I wrong! The worst place to love in lovely Sierra Vista is in the nice neighbor hoods, with home owners ass. and watch groups and such. These "rich punks" all want to be hard and are shooting each other in the family friendly parks.

Last summer while I was working nights the wife would call me saying we need to move because the gut shot's were getting more and more frequent. That god these "punks" are shooting each other in the areas she wants move to, saves me at least $150,000!

Morale of the story is buy land in the country, no neighbors no problems! I agree with Saxjazzman, safer on the battlefield.

Glad your O.K.

P.S. I probrably would not have answered the door unless there were flashing lights outside, good on ya for being brave and saveing that man's life and disrupting what I call "natural selection" LOL

 

[Swissy]

From what I saw last night, I can understand the lack of communication. They were having enough trouble talking to each other let alone someone else.

The owners son-in-law stopped by a few minutes ago. They are evicting the renters and will be living next door themselves for the rest of the winter. This is great news as the son-in law and his wife are the only sober members of that family I have met.

:laugh: I have some stories of 'lack of communication' that would shock you! I love it when we roll up and the officer looks at us with a blank look and asks "why are you here... I told dispatch we don't need you..." Either the radio call was missed, they told the wrong crew, they got busy with real 911 calls, or we missed it due to lousy radio traffic. We get a good chuckle every so often, either at the cops or at ourselves!

best thing going Mike... the owners moving in! Nothing like actually owning the place to take care of it. How some people can just trash soemthing 'because it's not mine' never fails to amaze me (and piss me off!) Your trailer court has always been one of the nicest in town - but all good things must come to an end I guess... too bad, too. And they just gave you your own stoplight! :whistling:

 

[mmburtch]

Drunk low lifes and bull moose! That's a bit more excitement than necessary. Congrats on the new neighbor.

 

[jgohlke]

We live in a pretty nice neighborhood of single-family homes. A couple of years ago, when the house next to us was a rental, the couple that moved in had a screaming fight, in the driveway, at midnight, on their FIRST NIGHT in the house, about who's eff'ing crack it was....

"It's your f----ing crack."

"No it's not, it's yours!"

Apparently, they had both been trying to get sober and somebody brought crack into their new house.

We opened a window and yelled STFU at them. Needless to say, drunk people don't reason all that well, so after another 20 minutes of them yelling at each other, we called the cops. By the time, the cops got there (only a few minutes), they had discovered that it was actually the mom's crack (her mother was staying with them). When the cops showed up, the couple had just finished pushing and chasing the old lady around the yard where she fell over a broken riding mower and gashed her leg pretty good.

They lived there for 7 months and we called the cops on them regularly. They even called the cops on each other a couple of times.

The worst though, was the beagle they chained to the mower in the backyard and then forgot about. The dog barked 24hrs/day for 3 weeks straight. It was so wrapped around the mower, it only had about 6 inches of chain. I don't think they ever fed or watered it. The funniest thing was, they had a birthday party for one of the kids, inflatable jump house, relatives, BBQ, picnic tables..the whole bit. The dog was about 40 feet away from them and it barked the whole day. They never yelled at it or even tried to get it to stop barking. We called animal control on them for that.

 

[antaean]

Mike,

Its a good thing your pass has been in a nice safe place like Detroit :laugh:

First the accident, now a stabbing...what the devil is going on up there? You got a thing against holidays? I also saw a pic of Swissy swimming in ice water. Has Alaska gone crazy or is this just biz as usual?

Cheers,
antaean

 

[bilder]

From what I saw last night, I can understand the lack of communication. They were having enough trouble talking to each other let alone someone else.

The owners son-in-law stopped by a few minutes ago. They are evicting the renters and will be living next door themselves for the rest of the winter. This is great news as the son-in law and his wife are the only sober members of that family I have met.

:laugh: I have some stories of 'lack of communication' that would shock you! I love it when we roll up and the officer looks at us with a blank look and asks "why are you here... I told dispatch we don't need you..." Either the radio call was missed, they told the wrong crew, they got busy with real 911 calls, or we missed it due to lousy radio traffic. We get a good chuckle every so often, either at the cops or at ourselves!

best thing going Mike... the owners moving in! Nothing like actually owning the place to take care of it. How some people can just trash soemthing 'because it's not mine' never fails to amaze me (and piss me off!) Your trailer court has always been one of the nicest in town - but all good things must come to an end I guess... too bad, too. And they just gave you your own stoplight! :whistling:

I hear that. This was actually a pretty nice area to live in. I have lived here for over 10 years and until recently have had little trouble. Most folks were owner/occupiers and we all watched out for each other. The last few years a lot of owners have bought larger homes and have rented out their trailers. I would say the ratio of renters to owners is 50/50 now. Most of the trouble is from renters. Most of the owners do no background checks of any kind and we have been getting all kinds of folks moving in and out.

Sadly for me the two places next to me have been rentals with poor choices of tenants.