airlines and smokeless tobacco

[verhoevc]

So I'm sitting in the Atlanta airport right now, and am bored so I figured I'd share a funny little anecdote from my flight. Let me preface this with the fact cigars are the only tobacco I use, so I'm not biased towards smokeless.
The flight attendant is going through the usual speech, but when gets to the smoking part it has now been changed to, "and please refrain from smoking, as well as using smokeless tobacco products on the plane, tampering... Etc"
I couldn't help but laugh at this. What is the ban on smokeless helping? Is second-hand non-smoke harmful to people now too? And if the reasoning behind this is simply that its icky' can we make it illegal for the guy across the aisle to fart while on the plane too?
Chris

 

[NASTY]

So I'm sitting in the Atlanta airport right now, and am bored so I figured I'd share a funny little anecdote from my flight. Let me preface this with the fact cigars are the only tobacco I use, so I'm not biased towards smokeless.
The flight attendant is going through the usual speech, but when gets to the smoking part it has now been changed to, "and please refrain from smoking, as well as using smokeless tobacco products on the plane, tampering... Etc"
I couldn't help but laugh at this. What is the ban on smokeless helping? Is second-hand non-smoke harmful to people now too? And if the reasoning behind this is simply that its icky' can we make it illegal for the guy across the aisle to fart while on the plane too?
Chris

I would actually second that notion. If you knowingly have the SBDs (silent but deadly) farts, you must run to the bathroom and stay there until the methane dissipates.

 

[Marcos]

While I don't agree with it, my only thought would be to prevent people from spitting in cups and bottles while next to you.

 

[CRQuarto]

While I don't agree with it, my only thought would be to prevent people from spitting in cups and bottles while next to you.

Not much is as disgusting as someone's spit cup spilling on your pant leg. Trust me, I know. :angry:

 

[LilBastage]

While I don't agree with it, my only thought would be to prevent people from spitting in cups and bottles while next to you.

Or on the floor.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of people out there that could stand to be hit upside the head with a manners stick.

 

[CigarAl]

So I'm sitting in the Atlanta airport right now, and am bored so I figured I'd share a funny little anecdote from my flight. Let me preface this with the fact cigars are the only tobacco I use, so I'm not biased towards smokeless.
The flight attendant is going through the usual speech, but when gets to the smoking part it has now been changed to, "and please refrain from smoking, as well as using smokeless tobacco products on the plane, tampering... Etc"
I couldn't help but laugh at this. What is the ban on smokeless helping? Is second-hand non-smoke harmful to people now too? And if the reasoning behind this is simply that its icky' can we make it illegal for the guy across the aisle to fart while on the plane too?
Chris

I would actually second that notion. If you knowingly have the SBDs (silent but deadly) farts, you must run to the bathroom and stay there until the methane dissipates.

Could they also ban people from removing their shoes....

I have no idea why when some people board a plane they think they are in the comfort of their own homes.....

I mean really.....do you think those people take their shoes off when they go out to dinner?

And It is the people who should not be removing their shoes who always remove them.........

 

[Q_The_Cop]

I dip Copenhagen Snuff since I quit smoking. I fly a pretty good bit here and there and have never had a problem with other people. Most people say, it's nowhere near as bad as smoking cigarettes. I haven't had a problem with airlines either, though I haven't heard that in the announcements yet.

 

[tmoney2007]

I dip Copenhagen Snuff since I quit smoking. I fly a pretty good bit here and there and have never had a problem with other people. Most people say, it's nowhere near as bad as smoking cigarettes. I haven't had a problem with airlines either, though I haven't heard that in the announcements yet.

I respectfully disagree. Seeing a coke bottle filled with spit is freaking gross.

 

[4cbln3]

My friends use American dip and they have to spit, but I ended up liking Swedish Snus and because it's pasteurized using food grade sugar, salt, water, and tobacco you swallow the tobacco juice and get your fix that way. If you spit, you end up not feeling a thing.

I actually started with American dip and spitting, but because my daughter wouldn't like to give me a kiss on the cheek if she thought I had a mouthful of spit, I searched out Snus and I've been happy ever since.Who knew this stuff has been around for hundreds of years in Sweden.

 

[cabaiguan juan]

My friends use American dip and they have to spit, but I ended up liking Swedish Snus and because it's pasteurized using food grade sugar, salt, water, and tobacco you swallow the tobacco juice and get your fix that way. If you spit, you end up not feeling a thing.

I actually started with American dip and spitting, but because my daughter wouldn't like to give me a kiss on the cheek if she thought I had a mouthful of spit, I searched out Snus and I've been happy ever since.Who knew this stuff has been around for hundreds of years in Sweden.

wait, you can actually swallow the snus? I tried some swidish snus and i was told i didn't need to spit, but i understood that to mean that you could get away with out building up spit. I ended up just spitting anyway and didnt feel anything from the snus. You arer saying that i could have just swollowed that spit and not felt terrible?

 

[Q_The_Cop]

Yeah that's their big tag line. You don't have to spit at all. I tried some when it first came to Ga, but I found it a little to sweet for me. But I swallowed the whole time and never felt any ill effects. Really good idea!

 

[verhoevc]

I agree, spit cups are GROSS. But then that kinda proves my point, the REASON for the ban is the "ew factor" and therefore why is that the ONLY "ew" thing banned?
Chris

 

[4cbln3]

Yeah that's their big tag line. You don't have to spit at all. I tried some when it first came to Ga, but I found it a little to sweet for me. But I swallowed the whole time and never felt any ill effects. Really good idea!

Exactly as Q mentioned, it's designed to be swallowed. Most people start off with the sweet stuff, me included, as they try to mimic the American market I believe, but the taste of say, apple or wintergreen, is waaaay different. I moved onto the "regular tobacco taste" brands after my 2nd order and it doesn't feel like I have residual sugar on the back of my throat which made my throat tickle.

Snus History for some fun facts. I like history with my hobbies.

I'd rather smoke little cigars instead, but when life is hectic and/or you can't step outside these are great. I hike, play volleyball, watch movies, and drive (especially when it's raining hard, you don't need to roll down the window). Plus, the flavor lasts anywhere from 1/2 an hour to an hour for me. YMMV, as I've read some users keep it in for hours. They have forums just like CP!

I use the pouch version instead of loose as I couldn't "bake a prie" which is how traditional users pack a pinch. In fact, the containers come with a little indention w/ cover so you can throw your used ones in there until you reach a trash can, keeping the environment a little cleaner :thumbs:

I'm not dogging on regular Cope, Skoal, plug, rope,or long cut users as the rest of my friends all use those, it's just another alternative that I ended up liking for personal reasons. Plus................drumroll please...............SCHIP doesn't get a dime! as it's outside the country. You'll pay the 3% out of country charge to Visa or AX, but a can costs 2-4 dollars.

Sorry to be so long winded guys! Dave

 

[BigJake6904]

I dip. Always have. Frankly, I don't care if it offends anyone...just like I don't care if the smoke from my cigar offends anyone. Anti-smoking nazis are just like anti-dipping nazis, there will always be some excuse for everyone to justify their point of view....but at the end of the day, you're wasting your breath.

I find some of the responses here to be pretty hypocritical. You all smoke and bitch about anti-smoking nazis, when smoke actually can effect other people, yet some here take the position against smokeless tobacco when the only ill effect anyone can have is their eyesight from "seeing spit."

Get over it.

I've always dipped on planes, and I always will...it calms my nerves. Why don't I care? Well, I don't have to spit...I'll just swallow. No different than someone eating.

/endrant

 

[Yeahthatsme]

I dip. Always have. Frankly, I don't care if it offends anyone...just like I don't care if the smoke from my cigar offends anyone. Anti-smoking nazis are just like anti-dipping nazis, there will always be some excuse for everyone to justify their point of view....but at the end of the day, you're wasting your breath.

I find some of the responses here to be pretty hypocritical. You all smoke and bitch about anti-smoking nazis, when smoke actually can effect other people, yet some here take the position against smokeless tobacco when the only ill effect anyone can have is their eyesight from "seeing spit."

Get over it.

I've always dipped on planes, and I always will...it calms my nerves. Why don't I care? Well, I don't have to spit...I'll just swallow. No different than someone eating.

/endrant

I believe that in this context the complaint isn't about chewing in general, but chewing on a plane where the people around you have nowhere to go to avoid your spit bottle, which is a valid complaint in my opinion.

 

[BigJake6904]

I believe that in this context the complaint isn't about chewing in general, but chewing on a plane where the people around you have nowhere to go to avoid your spit bottle, which is a valid complaint in my opinion.

Not everyone spits, or uses a bottle...but people will still complain if someone has a "fat lip."

 

[NullSmurf]

Suffice it to say that there are a multitude of contextual reasons for them to outlaw smokeless other than "you shouldn't use tobacco...ewwww!" I'm good with that.

 

[LilBastage]

I sat next to a guy in one of my college classes that dipped. He spit on the floor. The floor was carpeted. It stank, it was disgusting, and it is costly to replace the carpet (and it has to be replaced, cleaning doesn't get it out).

I don't complain about anti-smoking sentiment. My complaint has always been and always will be about the government making the choice for private property owners when it comes to allowing smoking or not. As far as I know this isn't a governmental action; it's a decision the airline has made. It's their airplane, they can make whatever rules they want.

There's nothing hypocritical in what I stated. Spitting on someone else's floor is rude and destructive to their property. Anybody that does that deserves a smack upside the head with a manners stick. If they do it in my house they'll be asked to leave and presented with the cleaning bill or the bill to replace the carpet.

 

[wanlail]

I sat next to a guy in one of my college classes that dipped. He spit on the floor. The floor was carpeted. It stank, it was disgusting, and it is costly to replace the carpet (and it has to be replaced, cleaning doesn't get it out).

I don't complain about anti-smoking sentiment. My complaint has always been and always will be about the government making the choice for private property owners when it comes to allowing smoking or not. As far as I know this isn't a governmental action; it's a decision the airline has made. It's their airplane, they can make whatever rules they want.

There's nothing hypocritical in what I stated. Spitting on someone else's floor is rude and destructive to their property. Anybody that does that deserves a smack upside the head with a manners stick. If they do it in my house they'll be asked to leave and presented with the cleaning bill or the bill to replace the carpet.

What a d*ck. We've had guys spit on our warehouse floor, but thats concrete. Its not as nasty as in the carpet. 70% of my office dips and about 85% smokes. I don't have to worry about people complaining.

 

[wavescrashing]

My friends use American dip and they have to spit, but I ended up liking Swedish Snus and because it's pasteurized using food grade sugar, salt, water, and tobacco you swallow the tobacco juice and get your fix that way. If you spit, you end up not feeling a thing.

I actually started with American dip and spitting, but because my daughter wouldn't like to give me a kiss on the cheek if she thought I had a mouthful of spit, I searched out Snus and I've been happy ever since.Who knew this stuff has been around for hundreds of years in Sweden.

I swear by snus as well. I use it on all car rides, planes, and deployments. I never got into dipping specifically because of the spitting...not a fan, so I'd think no one would complain about snus. I wonder if the "any tobacco product" rule is on every airline now.