Brady better than Montana

[the mayor]

I apologize for all those that arent men reading this.

As the Patriots go into their 3rd SuperBowl in 4 years the argument has arisen: is Brady better/as good as Montana? Here is a brief breakdown of stats as well as my thoughts.

Round 1 Success

Joe Montana - 4 SuperBowls - 4 Championships
8 time pro-bowler
16-7 in playoffs

Tom Brady - 2 SuperBowls - 2 Championships
1 time pro-bowler
8-0 in playoffs

Round 2 Meaningful Numbers

Career Completion %
Montana 63.2
Brady 61.6

Career TD
Montana 273
Brady 97

Career INT
Montana 139
Brady 52

TD/INT Ratio
Montana 1.96
Brady 1.87

Round 3 Intagibles
Montana
Negatives: Played in a capless era. Threw to the greatest wide receiver (PLAYER???) ever and had an incredible running game and defense to boot. Had arguably best coach ever.
Positives: Always won. Is one part of the most infamous pass in football (to Dwight Clark). Drove to win a SuperBowl at the end of the 4th quarter. Team relied on the offense. Even Hanes is his way.

Brady
Negatives: Plays in a capped era, no team can amass what the 70's Steelers or 90's Cowboys had. Defense wins championships, the Pats aren't known for their unrelenting offense. First championship was a blown call (in the snow against the Raiders?, the new 'tuck' rule) away from never happening.
Positives: Never loses. Seriously, NEVER, no really, NEVER. Won with average receivers and an average running game. LIVES at the Playboy Mansion.


Me personally, I rarely catch a Pats game, but when I do I rarely see Brady have an amazing game, a truly monumental 'THATS how you play football' game. I've never seen him take control of a game and win it. It's a lot like Rothlisomething, until he had to actually make a throw he was great, and when he had to win it... SOOOOOOOO as far as I see it Montana is on top, ESPN is making a story out of nothing. But what do you think?

 

[AVB]

Brady needs 5 more years to make this an equal comparison IMO. Right now I agree with you , it is a manufactured story.

 

[CoventryCat86]

Brady needs 5 more years to make this an equal comparison IMO. Right now I agree with you , it is a manufactured story.

[snapback]162008[/snapback]​

I second that.

 

[lucasbuck]

Brady is good, not great. He's in the right system and the right time with a genius head coach.

If you want to see the best ever watch some film of Dan Marino

 

[Maggs44]

How about compareing Brady to the the QB who has won the most NFL championshiops since 1960?

Bart Starr, 5 titles in 7 years. 3 in a row. Nobody has won 3 in a row.

Bruce

 

[ricmac25]

Brady is good, not great. He's in the right system and the right time with a genius head coach.

If you want to see the best ever watch some film of Dan Marino

[snapback]162087[/snapback]​

I knew I liked you for a reason. Let me take this a step further, I don't think Montana is ALL THAT either :0 . Oh no, blasphemy. I think Montana and Brady are good quarterbacks that just so happened to be members of great teams. I think way too much credit for a teams success is placed on the quarterback. Yeah, Dilfer and Hostetler are better than Marino because they won a Super Bowl, PUH - LEASE!


Elway didn't get his rings till he got a guy by the name of Terrell Davis. Marino never got his rings because his defenses SUCKED. In the Cigar Aficionado article ranking quarterbacks it said that in Marino's playoff losses, the defense averaged giving up 30 points a game. Montana and Brady didn't have to deal with that.

Do you honestly think, Elway and Marino couldn't win with the teams Montana and Brady had/have?

IMO they are both products of their systems.

Best Passer = Marino.
Best All Around QB = My heart hurts to say this, Elway.

 

[gr8full2day]

The "Best" ever conversation should NEVER include any Quarterback without a championship of some kind, i.e. Dan Marino/Peyton Manning great stats, NOT even close the GREATNESS!! Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, Bart Starr are the three greatest of all time.Elway is in ther as well (because he won 2, not went to 6)..NEVER lost a Championship game...Winning is the only stat that breaks the deal for Greatness. If MJ doesn't win 6 rings, then he wouldn't be the greatest player EVER. No debate, no questions Tom Brady is in the conversation. The era he plays in makes this run even MORE impressive because of the hard salary cap. Brady is a machine. He makes 5 bad throws a year, just like Montana, BUT game on the line and you need a win who do you turn to..Dan Marino(that is FF!!), Peyton Manning (Couldn't win big game even in high school),..Tom Brady is THE BEST QB today, not best stats, not best arm, but BEST winning percentage EVER...Sorry, your other arguments are nice, but winning is what he does best. No flash, no trash talk, no me me me, just Rings baby..BTW 2 time Superbowl MVP..That's 2 Escalades for those scoring a home. I am a Falcons fan, but I appreciate GREATNESS.. Bellichick is also as good as anyone EVER, especially with salary cap and players today. Keep the "but what about" BS for someone else, I ain't buying..Dan Marino, Peyton Manning, Culpepper stat monsters but average QB...Sorry...