Can we find a better way to ship our packages?

How many packages do you ship for CP in an average month (If you use click-n-ship, check your histor

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I know some of us have had bad luck with USPS.

I live out in the country a ways. The nearest place I could take a UPS or FedEx package is at least 10 miles away. USPS comes to my house everyday (except Sunday, of course) and will pick up the packages I have for free. I also get my boxes for free.

I applaud the effort and would consider it for some of the more valuable packages I sometimes ship, but for the every day 5er I probably would still use USPS based on the price and convenience.

Good luck with this. I'm sure there are quite a few folks that would use it. I just probably wouldn't that much.

:thumbs:

What Alan said... USPS is just so damn easy and I haven't had any issues with lost packages.
X3....great service, free boxes, no issues, daily pick up....pretty happy at this point.

Regards - B.B.S.
 
Laudable Jeff, given your recent experiences. I ship 10-30 boxes a month - wifey is an eBay seller. I rarely have a problem, and the "free" materials and lower prices make the risk acceptable. Thanks for doing this. If you're able to pull this off, I'll consider using it.

Explain yourself young man ???

He's saying, nicely done since you lost a package recently.

Laudable = worthy of praise

Sorry Jeff - I'll stop with the big words! :sign:
 
Laudable Jeff, given your recent experiences. I ship 10-30 boxes a month - wifey is an eBay seller. I rarely have a problem, and the "free" materials and lower prices make the risk acceptable. Thanks for doing this. If you're able to pull this off, I'll consider using it.

Explain yourself young man ???

He's saying, nicely done since you lost a package recently.

Laudable = worthy of praise

Sorry Jeff - I'll stop with the big words! :sign:


I can tell by the delay in response that you had to go find a dictionary ;)
 
I've had two boxes show up completely empty to my house. Both with Super Premium cigars in them. The USPS did absolutely nothing about it, and borderline called me a liar.

I'm in.
 
Good on you for taking this up, Jeff.

I use USPS and over the last 5 years have shipped easily 6-700 packages for cigars and other things. I have never lost one and only one coming is has been lost. I can't see taking advantage of something like this unless the cost is in the $3.50 range.

And it'd have to be bone easy to use.

Wilkey
 
Laudable Jeff, given your recent experiences. I ship 10-30 boxes a month - wifey is an eBay seller. I rarely have a problem, and the "free" materials and lower prices make the risk acceptable. Thanks for doing this. If you're able to pull this off, I'll consider using it.

Explain yourself young man ???

He's saying, nicely done since you lost a package recently.

Laudable = worthy of praise

Sorry Jeff - I'll stop with the big words! :sign:


I can tell by the delay in response that you had to go find a dictionary ;)
You two get a friggin room!
 
I like the idea especially since ups and fedex have a far superior tracking system and it's convenient for me since they pickup at my work but what sways me is the additional cost of boxes (as Bruce mentioned all the insides of the free usps boxes are now stamped). If they had free boxes and the cost was a dollar more (5-6.00) I'd participate. USPS has been good to me so far with packages but for a little more $, I'd pay for better tracking.

Btw, for the proposed cost of fedex and ups, is that for 2-3day delivery as well?
 
Anyone can set up a ups account, pay and print labels just like click and ship. Then you just schedule a pick up and your done. The main difference I have seen is that ups actually weighs and measures the packages and bills you for any discrepency.

Thus far, the only package I have lost with usps, was just fine until the US Army got it into their system.
 
I like the idea especially since ups and fedex have a far superior tracking system and it's convenient for me since they pickup at my work but what sways me is the additional cost of boxes (as Bruce mentioned all the insides of the free usps boxes are now stamped). If they had free boxes and the cost was a dollar more (5-6.00) I'd participate. USPS has been good to me so far with packages but for a little more $, I'd pay for better tracking.

Btw, for the proposed cost of fedex and ups, is that for 2-3day delivery as well?

The costs listed in the poll were just to get a gauge of what people might be willing to pay. I have no idea what their cost may be but I assume it will be for 2-3 day ground service. As Rod pointed out, all UPS packages are insured to $100 at no extra cost and you can actually track it.
 
If the additional cost wasn't much AND I could do it online like Click 'n' Ship AND they would come and pick it up at my house I would likely use it. I like the free boxes, but I could probably make due with reusing a lot of the ones I get when I order stuff (and I order a lot of stuff online).

Related to what Greg asked about insuring cigars, would there be any issues with sending cigars? I know the rumor mill is always churning, but I thought I had heard something about tobacco shipments being forbidden in the future or something. It's probably a load of nonsense, but I guess it's something to consider.
 
I plan to let the poll go through the weekend and make some calls to carriers Monday in which I will address the insurance question, the on-line shipping question, the pick-up scheduling question, etc. and then I will get back probably in a new thread.

As of right now there are 44 votes regarding shipping volume which represent roughly 230 packages a month.

The big questions are:

1. Is 44 members 1/2 of the active participants in trades/bombs, etc....is it 1/4 or 1/8....................?

2. If we were able to establish an account, would people use it for shipping non CP packages thereby increasing our volume?

3. Some people will continue to use USPS for various reasons......how much would this effect the numbers represented by the poll?
 
Update:

The discussion with carriers is going just well enough to indicate there is reason to continue discussing it.

Regarding the ease of USPS let me say that the intent is to get better service at "close to" the same price. Again here are our goals:

1. Click-n-ship type ease
2. Scheduled home or office pick up
3. True tracking
4. Automatic insurance ($100 seems to be what they all do automatically)
5. Same time frame, 2-4 days

Above all else, it will be stipulated in the account (if it happens) that the master account has zero responsibility........all responsibility will reside with the member when they set up a sub account.

Keep the thoughts coming :thumbs:
 
Thanks for the effort.

I know alot of ppl would be interested in this.

For me I will continue to use USPS.

Can't beat free materials, free pick up and ease of use. For the price I dont htink it can be beat.

I have yet to lose a package in the 5 yrs of using USPS. I normally ship out 5-20 boxes a month.
 
Jeff -

One thing I would like to see is the ability to print the labels without postage. It can be done now through USPS, but when printing a label today, I saw that starting in May I will no longer be able to. If I want to do that, I need to download something else. I haven't done the download yet, so I don't really know about it. But, if I was able to print without paying without having to download more programs, that would be a plus.
 
Thanks for the effort.

I know alot of ppl would be interested in this.

For me I will continue to use USPS.

Can't beat free materials, free pick up and ease of use. For the price I dont htink it can be beat.

I have yet to lose a package in the 5 yrs of using USPS. I normally ship out 5-20 boxes a month.
Roger that. I'm still trying to grasp what the killer feature will be. Seems like true tracking and included insurance. I don't know how the former would add value for me, and on the latter, will they reimburse a shipper for $100 worth of Cuban cigars?

Mind you, Jeff, I'm not trying to be a naysayer and I really appreciate your bulldogging this for the benefit of the community. I'm just trying to see what the compelling point is.

Wilkey
 
Thanks for the effort.

I know alot of ppl would be interested in this.

For me I will continue to use USPS.

Can't beat free materials, free pick up and ease of use. For the price I dont htink it can be beat.

I have yet to lose a package in the 5 yrs of using USPS. I normally ship out 5-20 boxes a month.

Alex:

You summed this up well and please allow me use your comments to make a point.

I think it's a matter of risk control and peace of mind. 95% of all USPS users have had good luck, the problem is that if something does go wrong USPS leaves you holding the bag. I can tell you that I have had a few anxious moments about a package containing sticks I could not easily replace.

So using a "hypothetical" price of $6.00; for the additional $1.40 you will lose free supplies but you will gain tracking and insurance, ease of use and free pick up remain the same.

If you lose one nice bomb or trade valued at $100 or, God forbid, a rare irreplaceable stick..........for me it's a no-brainer.

One more thing we will lose is the brainiacs at USPS web site telling me they don't know what a DC# is and that a nine digit zip code only specifies the county......and then there's the wench PMG who will spend 3 minutes telling me she is too busy to spend 1 minute checking on something for me.

Edited to add. Wilkey, the prospect of losing a promised cigar or a valuable bomb/trade probably has varying impact based on the senders ability to duplicate the gift/bomb/trade so I can definitely see that the peace of mind thing will vary wildly......could also be read like this...............you F'ing FOG's who have 10 of every cigar known to man have to hearken back to your newbie days :D

Did he say Cuban Cigars?.....CUBAN CIGARS?......phhhht......DON'T EVEN TO ABOUT CUBAN CIGARS!.......CUBAN CIGARS?
 
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