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Exciting discovery while working

Shamrocker

Sheik Yerbouti
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Our company was contacted by an out-of-province surveying firm looking to have some legal survey work performed in Manitoba. During the course of the surveys, we discovered a number of survey monuments missing from the sections. Long story short, I had to travel 4 miles away to find the nearest relevant survey monument so I could begin retracing the steps of the original surveyor from back in 1800's.

I ended up digging a massive trench (12' x 3' and about 2' deep) with my assistant looking for any traces of evidence that a survey monument was placed there, either traces of rust from an iron post, or traces of wood from a wood post. Surprisingly enough, about 6" away from my calculated coordinate and about 1' below grade I discovered an almost perfect 2" x 2" square of brown-orange rotten wood in the clay under the topsoil.

The survey instructions given by the Surveyor General of Canada for surveys done in 1881 indicated that the north-east corner of sections in prairie land were to be monumented with 2" square wood posts, in a square mound, surrounded by 4 square pits. I was fortunate enough to be probably the first person to discover this evidence in maybe 100 years. I've got to say, sometimes my profession can drive me up the wall... digging holes for evidence that may not exist, dealing with clients that can be idiots, and a boss that sometimes flies off the handle for no apparent reason. Moments like these make all the difference, getting to be white-collar in the academic sense, blue-collar in the manual labour and outdoorsy sense, archaeologist, and historian all in one package.

If anyone wants to know more about what I do, feel free to ask. I enjoy educating people about my lesser known career.


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I've got to say, sometimes my profession can drive me up the wall... digging holes for evidence that may not exist, dealing with clients that can be idiots, and a boss that sometimes flies off the handle for no apparent reason.



I didn't know we worked for the same company :laugh:
 
I've got to say, sometimes my profession can drive me up the wall... digging holes for evidence that may not exist, dealing with clients that can be idiots, and a boss that sometimes flies off the handle for no apparent reason.



I didn't know we worked for the same company :laugh:

Come to think of it, I'm willing to bet you and I work for the same company as many others here :D
 
Amazing on how accurate they were over 100 years ago all things considered
 
Actually Keith, I wonder how much surveying has profoundly changed even in the last 2 to 3,000 years? I'm sure there had to be a sizable amount of surveyors on the Pyramids. I wouldn't mind knowing just how old the profession is.

Bryce
 
Amazing on how accurate they were over 100 years ago all things considered

I could be wrong on the precise dates, however on a trip to New Orleans last year it was pointed out that the original engineers had marked the old town with an expected high water mark in the 1700's. There is a physical mark or concrete marker to reflect this point in town the tour guide pointed out and Katrina did not flood that section of town. So even then, they could accurately figure where to build and live for a catastrophic event 200+ years in the future.

Old school has its merits.

PJ
 
Amazing on how accurate they were over 100 years ago all things considered

You're absolutely right. The fact that we can repeat today what was done a century or more ago with such different technology is just astounding. Back when this township I was working in was surveyed, they would have been using astornomical observations, theodolites accurate to a minute of arc, and a chain for distances. I was using survey grade GPS.

Actually Keith, I wonder how much surveying has profoundly changed even in the last 2 to 3,000 years? I'm sure there had to be a sizable amount of surveyors on the Pyramids. I wouldn't mind knowing just how old the profession is.

Bryce

Some say surveying is the oldest profession... others say the second oldest. :laugh: Either way, Pythagoras, Eratosthenes, Descartes, and a number of other historical figures contributed directly or indirectly to the evolution of today's surveying.

Heck, in the lifetime of Eratosthenes (276BC - 195BC) calculated the circumfrence of the Earth to within 1% of error based on today's measurements.
 
Amazing on how accurate they were over 100 years ago all things considered

You're absolutely right. The fact that we can repeat today what was done a century or more ago with such different technology is just astounding. Back when this township I was working in was surveyed, they would have been using astornomical observations, theodolites accurate to a minute of arc, and a chain for distances. I was using survey grade GPS.

Actually Keith, I wonder how much surveying has profoundly changed even in the last 2 to 3,000 years? I'm sure there had to be a sizable amount of surveyors on the Pyramids. I wouldn't mind knowing just how old the profession is.

Bryce

Some say surveying is the oldest profession... others say the second oldest. :laugh: Either way, Pythagoras, Eratosthenes, Descartes, and a number of other historical figures contributed directly or indirectly to the evolution of today's surveying.

Heck, in the lifetime of Eratosthenes (276BC - 195BC) calculated the circumfrence of the Earth to within 1% of error based on today's measurements.

Very facinating Keith. I actually googled the history of Surveying and found that men like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln were all surveyors prior to politics. Thanks for the great info!

Bryce
 
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