Thanks for the replies guys. After going thru the humi we decided on a couple of WOAM's. My son John seemed to enjoy it. I ask him if he could taste anything and he was able to detect the flavors of coffee and leather. Which was right on with what I was tasting from these WOAM's from this year. Hope I have not made a monster. Because the rest of the box is gonna get a little sleep. I might see if he wants another on my B-Day thinking maybe a Boli PC.