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Flavor Apiphony!

humboldtflyer

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Well, I have been smoking stogeys for about three years now and my favorite cigar has pretty much always been an Onyx Reserve robusto. I am an evening smoker and I ALWAYS smoke with a beer in the other hand. This morning for the first time (I had the slows really bad. Couldn't seem to wake up.) I tried my cigar with a french roast cofee. I must tell you it was a totally different experience.
This cigar with my normal evening beer, has a great earthy sweet and chocolatey flavor for me. But on this occasion, with a mid-morning (11:00am) cup of joe was a muich more pronounced tart cherry/coconut and earthy vanilla type flavor. It was quite startling to me actually. It was even hard for me to process the flavors, as my mind wasn't really ready for such a dramatic change. Strange to say the least, but definitely a great smoking experience.
I guess it all goes back to moki's post. (what affects the taste of a cigar)
 
If I'm going to try and sit down to review a cigar, I usually smoke in the mornings. My palate seems to be more apt to pick up on flavors earlier in the day.
 
I love beer bro, but I can't do it with a cigar. The wheat/hops/barley and alcohol combined produce flavors that dominate the palate (IMO). Personally, I go with a coke or a non-acidic tasting cup of coffee with milk and a touch of sugar. Neither of those seem to dominate the flavors of the cigar, but will usually pronounce sweeter qualities. Which I can live with.

However, a truly great cigar, doesn't need the accompaniment of any drink. Maybe a water. But then, you're talking ISOM.

One man's opinions.

Edit to add: Now, if you're drinking a flavorless Bud Lite like my man Sirius Joe usually does, that's a different story. I'm referring to real beer, not that watered down crap :)
 
I love beer bro, but I can't do it with a cigar. The wheat/hops/barley and alcohol combined produce flavors that dominate the palate (IMO). Personally, I go with a coke or a non-acidic tasting cup of coffee with milk and a touch of sugar. Neither of those seem to dominate the flavors of the cigar, but will usually pronounce sweeter qualities. Which I can live with.

However, a truly great cigar, doesn't need the accompaniment of any drink. Maybe a water. But then, you're talking ISOM.

One man's opinions.

To each their own. I love my cigars coupled with a good, hearty beer, or scotch, or rum. Depends on my mood, and, sometimes, the time of day. My morning smokes are almost always with a cafe con leche, the combination I find very difficult to beat. The smoothiness of the cafe con leche, with the smooth creaminess of a morning smoke (RASS are one of these for me), is beyond compare.

Long, long ago I used to smoke cigars with Coke and found it good for cleansing the palate as I smoked. But, I don't drink sodas any longer and found that it was pretty much a factor of the carbonated beverage doing the cleansing, which can be just as easily accomplished by a bottle of Pelligrino, which I sometimes use as a beverage to go along with my smokes.
 
If I'm going to try and sit down to review a cigar, I usually smoke in the mornings. My palate seems to be more apt to pick up on flavors earlier in the day.


So, you tend to have a full palate in the evening?

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Great to read you've made a wonderful discovery. It's funny how taste changes when I smoke after dinner meals - Cool!
 
Interesting point on the carbonation MC. I'm going to have to try that with a sparkling water. Would certainly be better than a mouth rotting away in Coke acids.

You still admit though, the coffee and cream is tough to beat. If I had to do a beer, I mean if my arm was really twisted, a Guinness would suffice.
 
If I'm going to try and sit down to review a cigar, I usually smoke in the mornings. My palate seems to be more apt to pick up on flavors earlier in the day.


So, you tend to have a full palate in the evening?


Nah...you really, really don't want to know what happens to Brandon's palate as the day progresses.
 
For me the cigar is rarely the event. It is an embellishment. "The play is the thing."

Doc.
 
If I'm going to try and sit down to review a cigar, I usually smoke in the mornings. My palate seems to be more apt to pick up on flavors earlier in the day.


So, you tend to have a full palate in the evening?


Nah...you really, really don't want to know what happens to Brandon's palate as the day progresses.


You shoulda heard the words coming out of my palate last night, as I was pulling my foot back into the attic, after falling through the kitchen ceiling. Needless to say the construction will now involve a small piece of the kitchen as well.

:sign:
 
If I'm going to try and sit down to review a cigar, I usually smoke in the mornings. My palate seems to be more apt to pick up on flavors earlier in the day.


So, you tend to have a full palate in the evening?


Nah...you really, really don't want to know what happens to Brandon's palate as the day progresses.


You shoulda heard the words coming out of my palate last night, as I was pulling my foot back into the attic, after falling through the kitchen ceiling. Needless to say the construction will now involve a small piece of the kitchen as well.

:sign:


LMAO

Best of Luck!
 
For me the cigar is rarely the event. It is an embellishment. "The play is the thing."

Doc.

Interesting point Doc. Find myself in the same situation sometimes. But, it is also a chicken-and-egg kind of thing, at least to a degree. Many times, events surround cigars, others, the cigars surrounding the event. The bottom line, both are made much more enjoyable by the presence of them.
 
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You shoulda heard the words coming out of my palate last night, as I was pulling my foot back into the attic, after falling through the kitchen ceiling. Needless to say the construction will now involve a small piece of the kitchen as well.

:sign:
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Some of the best reconstruction projects start out this way :)
 
For me the cigar is rarely the event. It is an embellishment. "The play is the thing."

Doc.

Interesting point Doc. Find myself in the same situation sometimes. But, it is also a chicken-and-egg kind of thing, at least to a degree. Many times, events surround cigars, others, the cigars surrounding the event. The bottom line, both are made much more enjoyable by the presence of them.


That is very interesting as I find that the cigar for me is a hypnotic event. Most of the time I smoke alone and I tune out everything around me so it becomes the event. On a rare occasion when it is reversed I find the enjoyment is not the same. By the way when my wife comes out back at time, she mentions that I look like I'm asleep. I guess I us it to unwind and look at nature or something like that.

Now to the epiphany, yes the same cigar can taste differently depending the drink at hand.
 
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