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Re: Nice gat. I like it a lot. Short backstory.

I got myself a Nighthawk Custom GRP recon for my 50th birthday present to myself 19 years ago. I was afraid to shoot the damn thing! Now I’m not normally like that. I shoot everything in my safes so why do that? I don’t like safe queens. I guess the price made me baby it.

So I decided to sell it, on a forum and a guy said “take a trade on an SFX9?” I looked it up and said hell yes! So he’s shooting the shit out of my old Nighthawk and I’m shooting the shit out of this thing.

Not normally what I’d buy, although I’ve commissioned some expensive project guns. But this is the only high-end in my safes. Love it to death. One of my regular carry guns and will only shoot this in IDPA. EDIT: I don’t mean will only shoot it in IDPA. I will shoot it all the time. I won’t shoot anything else but what I carry in IDPA is what I meant.

Every man should have one high-end gun in their safe. Don’t need to make it a habit but get one. Thank me later. This is a dream gun.
 
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OK. Does anyone else enjoy cleaning your guns almost as much as shooting them? Almost. Or am I just weird. I really enjoy the process!

I love to shoot. And I clean everything after each trip out.

I cannot say I enjoy the cleaning.

Lately I've only been taking one to the range, so I only have to clean one when i get home. I dunno. Spending almost an hour (sometimes more) cleaning, just takes away from the experience for me anymore.
 
Wow! An hour?! Yikes. No wonder you don’t like it.

I just posted a 15 minute post on this and lost it moving my iPad location. I’ll post it later.
 
I love to shoot. And I clean everything after each trip out.

I cannot say I enjoy the cleaning.

Lately I've only been taking one to the range, so I only have to clean one when i get home. I dunno. Spending almost an hour (sometimes more) cleaning, just takes away from the experience for me anymore.
I used to be meticulous about cleaning my guns, particularly the barrel. A friend of mine is a sniper on the Cleveland SWAT team and we used to shoot together quite a bit. He told me that the only thing he does with the barrel of his sniper rifles is pull a bore snake through it two or three times and that's it.

He said this was the only way you could have a reliable cold bore shot. Maybe he doesn't care about the longevity of a gun because his sniper rifles are provided to him but I have found his comments to be true regarding a cold bore shot.

I have a couple guns that are an absolute pain in the ass to clean but they are worth it! 22 ammo is particularly dirty and my Remington Nylon is a real chore to clean but it is an awesome gun!
 
I used to be meticulous about cleaning my guns, particularly the barrel. A friend of mine is a sniper on the Cleveland SWAT team and we used to shoot together quite a bit. He told me that the only thing he does with the barrel of his sniper rifles is pull a bore snake through it two or three times and that's it.

He said this was the only way you could have a reliable cold bore shot. Maybe he doesn't care about the longevity of a gun because his sniper rifles are provided to him but I have found his comments to be true regarding a cold bore shot.

I have a couple guns that are an absolute pain in the ass to clean but they are worth it! 22 ammo is particularly dirty and my Remington Nylon is a real chore to clean but it is an awesome gun!

Those Nylon 66 are so accurate and reliable. Love that rifle.
 
@DomnioMaestro

Can't believe I lost this work before, but recreated it here. So, it should take you 10-15 minutes to clean and lube a handgun. Anything over that is just satisfying some mild (or not so mild) OCD impulse. I used to do that, but this guy and Bill Wilson got me off that. Mrgunsngear's credibility is high because he was a small arms armorer and instructor in the Army. He knows his stuff. Bill Wilson, who makes some of the finest guns in the industry, is equally nonchalant about cleaning. Mostly clean and lubed is just fine.

Like Mrgunsngear, I keep old thinning t-shirts in a bag to use for gun cleaning, haven't used patches in forever. I have his picks (Tipton, at Amazon) but the only thing I really use is a channel cleaning tool, like this. Perfect for any gun with a slide.


I also keep the free toothbrushes from each dental visit to use for gun cleaning. Only thing I've splurged on for the chore is a cleaning mat, which will protect your work surface and keep you out of trouble with the spousal unit if you clean in the kitchen or at the dining table.


After most range trips, before I have several hundred round through it:

I follow Bill Wilson's cleaning regimen. I use the blue, heavy-duty shop paper towels and a toothbrush. Oh, and a boresnake. After a range trip, I run a wet patch through the barrel then let it soak for a bit. I then brush the frame and slide with the toothbrush. Then I use the paper towels to thoroughly wipe down the frame and slide using the channel cleaning tool, no CLP or cleaner, I don't bother. Brush the barrel, then wipe thoroughly with the paper towels, run the boresnake thorugh it once, lube and reassemble. This is fine until I get 300-500 rounds through it. I'm no longer OCD about it, but if you don't feel comfortable just using dry paper towels, I've heard good things about Breakthrough Clean Technology wipes. May make you feel better about it, but I will never bother. If it's good enough for Bill Wilson, it's good enough for me.


After 300-500 rounds I use Mrgunsngear's process:

He was done with that CZ-75 in about 12 minutes I think, minus the intro and ending of the video. It's plenty, and any CLP will do. BreakFree, Clenzoil (a favorite of mine), Hoppes Boresnake CLP, they all work, none are magical. Once I determined that guns don't need to be white glove clean (I mean come on, even if you leave a little carbon on there how much will that degrade steel or 7076 aluminum in a well-lubed gun?), my cleaning went from an hour to less than 15 minutes and I never looked back. You may not enjoy it like I do, but you'll dread it a whole lot less if you chop 45 minutes off the chore, guaranteed!

I'm not a cleaning product freak, the over-the-top breathless reviews you read about "Miracle" gun cleaning products are all bullshit, IMNSHO. However ... as I got older I became more conscious of health issues, especially after having some small squamous skin cancer spots removed. I wanted to go more non-toxic and I wanted better lubricity than you get with a CLP. Mind you, Mrgunsandgear doesn't care about that and he was an Army armorer, remember? If he doesn't care you don't need to care.

But I did finally switch to a cleaner/lube regimen several years ago, and I'm happier about it. I use M-Pro 7 Gun Cleaner. It cleans great, doesn't smell, and is non-toxic, just what I like. I don't claim it's any better than any other product out there, I just like it.


And I switched to Wilson Combat Ultima-Lube Oil. Again, not claiming it's better than any other gun oil, but I like the viscosity of it and it works well. Any gun oil will work better than CLP as a lubricant and for protection.



But basically, I clean with dry paper towels and the boresnake, then oil the gun until I get 300-500 rounds through it, 10 minutes on average. Then I use the M-Pro 7, bore brushes, etcetera, followed by the gun oil at 300-500 rounds, maybe 15 minutes. Adding 45 minutes to the chore won't do anything for your gun, trust me. You're wasting time and making yourself crazy in the process. Stop it! 😅
 
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