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Hopin for a Special Day

Blue Dragon

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So I'm sittin here stressin out, probably because there isn't a d@mn thing I can do but wait. I am being sued by my previous employer for leaving his company and going to work for the competition. The lawsuit started back in December, but the critical day, at least the one leg I'm standing on, is coming up this Monday, summary judgement.

Why am I being sued? Well, good question. Yes, I signed a non-compete agreement when I was hired, and that is what they are sueing about. When I was hoping to be hired, I really needed a job; I read the non-compete agreement and thought it was ludacrice (sp?). But I needed a job, so I raised questions about it, which were replied with, "Well, we have never enforced this contract in the 20 years I have been working here. We would only go after someone if they stole from us. We know you are going to probably gain knowledge and move on, but hope that we make an ally that we can do business with at your new company." So I signed it. Let this be a warning to anyone that they better get this sort of thing in writing and signed, else it is all heresay.

I left the company because I felt like I got screwed and I wasn't very happy to begin with; the company said they would do X and didn't follow through. This time it was because I tried to do what was right by the customer, and my old company said they would make it up to me. I stayed in Anchorage, AK over labor day weekend, which I had vacation plans with my family, to help fix an installation that went horribly wrong to no fault of my own; it was all hardware related, and I was supposed to do the software piece. So I gave up my vacation and got the job done (and had the pleasure of meeting Swissy and PetersCreek).

My company said I could take some days off later to make up for the vacation ... but I didn't get it in writing. Later in the month, there is this company wide emphasis to make sure you let everyone know if you are going to be gone, so I sent an email, after approving it with my manager, that I was going to be gone for the last two days of a week to work on my house. Well, one of the owners said my email made it look like they were giving me comp time, and it is the company policy to not give comp time. So if I wanted to take that time off, I would have to use my earned vacation days. This pissed me off to no end ... now, not only do I loose 4 days of vacation that I had planned with my family, I have to loose 2 more because I did what I was supposed to do? WTF!?!

At that point I decided to have a different job by the first of the year, and I didn't care who with. I had feelers out to a couple companies, and then I was approached by the competition. Previously, I didn't want to screw my employers by working for the competition, but now I could care less. They made an offer, and I started the first part of Dec.

The old sales rep that I used to support was no longer working for "the company" but working for a manufacturer. He told the owners that they should go after me and my friend for leaving, and they thought it was a good idea. There were plenty of people who had left the company and started to work for a competitor, but I guess they had it in for me (as this goes on it definitely seems personal for some reason). SO again, get whatever your employer says in writing.

Before I accepted the offer with the competition, I checked into the validity of the non-compete I signed. Because basically it says that for 1 year I can't work for the competiton or any previous customer of "the company" within a 50 mile radius of the 6 major cities in ID. And since the company has been around for over 20 years, it pretty much would mean that I would have to move out of state to get a job in my field. Counsel said that it was an unreasonable burden and that it wouldn't hold up in court. Now I get to see if she was right. My lawyer put as one of the arguments in the brief that according to the non-compete agreement I couldn't even get a job as a janitor in Ontario, which is on the border of Oregon.

So wish me luck; I just needed to vent a little. I have saved a Taboada Salamone for a special occasion, and if we win, I smoke that to celebrate.

Thanks,
- C
 
Man that sucks! Having done almost the same thing in boise it was ruled that my former employer could not take away my right to earn a living(printing industry), I've never seen a non-compete ever hold up, but most people are afraid to test then because the company usually has more money for lawyers.
I hope you kick their ass than turn the tables on them in civil court!!!!
Daughter is a lawyer in our famially, just passed her bar :)
 
I was privy to a lot of this legal mumbo jumbo when we purchased our last company. I am not an attorney (thank God :p ), but from what I have seen, and what my lawyers told me, I don't think I would worry too awful much if I were you. Proof of anything is relative in these cases unless you are handing out business cards with your previous employers secrets printed on them!

I am sure you will be enjoying that Taboada soon enough.
 
snip.. There were plenty of people who had left the company and started to work for a competitor, but I guess they had it in for me (as this goes on it definitely seems personal for some reason). ...snip



Good luck BD. I'm no lawyer, but common sense tells me that the bolded text above is your out. If you and your lawyer can prove this (it's setting precedent), you're home free IMHO
 
Cory, I semi-work with the legal profession. I'm told universally that the non-compete agreements are worth less than the paper they're printed on. They're intended to prevent employees from jumping ship when the water starts to reach the deck line (as in your case), but is largely unenforceable unless you took company secrets with you and were passing them out at the new place...

Now - that being said - I'd really hate to be in the shitstorm you're in. I'm confident you'll be okay, but I hate being in those shoes you're in. I've been in a similar type circumstance - everything worked out okay, but it sucked while it was going on.

It helped me to take up a "hobby". I'd suggest collecting and smoking cigars... :thumbs:
 
This makes me think about my own situation. I was laid-off at the end of June...was forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Then the new company that hired me made me sign a non-compete. The two companies have similar equipment and "secrets". Part of my interview tacticts was to divulge the "secrets" of my previous employer... :sign: ! We'll now see what happens, if anything. I think I'll be OK..but you never know...I'll be reading this intently. :)

-Fetter
 
Good Luck..........I was laid off in April, but the company said they would allow me to work for anyone, and basically threw out the non-compete I had signed, 12 years earlier..........I am looking in others fields, so it shouldn't be an issue for me.....

Again........GOOD LUCK!!!!!
 
Yeah "Non Compete" clauses are generally unenforceable as thay are unreasonable and overly burdensom to the employee and their ability to earn a living in their trade. They can protect trade secrets and client lists but they cannot keep you from working for a competitor.

You should win this one.

Good luck.
 
Cory, I semi-work with the legal profession. I'm told universally that the non-compete agreements are worth less than the paper they're printed on. They're intended to prevent employees from jumping ship when the water starts to reach the deck line (as in your case), but is largely unenforceable unless you took company secrets with you and were passing them out at the new place...
George is right about this. Non-compete contracts are BS at best. Usually, they are for the people that delevop the products/enhancements/processes, but not for the genearl employees. Unless you are in a highly specialized role in your company creating a benchmark for your company within your industry, don't worry about it. I would turn around and slap a civil suit on them for harassment.
 
Dude ..... you've got some good Blues music, right? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Good luck with this!

David
As I mentioned in the pass thread, I really hope this is a positive coincidence and not a smattering of real Blues in my life. :whistling:

Thanks for the well wishes guys! I met with my attorney today and feel a little better, but am still nervous. Keep up the positive thoughts! :D

Idaho is a "Right to Work" state, which means an employer can fire you at any time for whatever reason s/he wants. It also means you can leave anytime you want. Because it is a right to work state, most non-competes don't hold a lot of weight. However, it is still a contract that was signed by both parties. Let's just hope the judge thinks as little of the plaintiff's arguments as she seemed to during the pre-trial. I'll give a status on Monday. <fingers crossed>
 
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