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In Vitolas Veritas?

A question to add to this.


Does the cigar do more for you BECAUSE it was 27 dollars and not 6 dollars? I've had a buch of 20 dollar-plus cigars that I wasn't really impressed with. I've had a couple that were uterrly wonderful. Troule is you don;t know what you are getting until you pay the frieght and strike the match. That's a main reason I tend to stay away from what the market calls ultra-premium. To me, knowing a cigar was expensive just adds pressure.


Wilkey's point about the wine was a great one. What if you actually like the 12 dollar bottle better? (You're a heathen I know :) ). We all have different preferences in our taste buds. I will take a regular line Padron Londres over an Opus X of any size any day. What does that mean? Nothing, except that I have smoked both and my taste buds don't care for the profile of the Opus. Just so you don't think I'm a price-only consumer if I had unlimited resources I'd have every Davidoff Diadema Finas that I could get my hands on. To my taste buds that is just about a perfect cigar, and we all know they ain't cheap.

I don't think 27 bucks in this case is outrageous for a couple of reasons.


Reason 1...It IS a Cohiba. The reputation of the brand proceeds it. Your taste buds may not find it to your liking but it will be well made and by all accounts an excellent cigar.


Reason 2...You can spend a boat load more on special dominican releases or under-authenticated vintage cigars where you are taking much more of a risk of getting something that isn't the same caliber of cigar.


If you have the 27 dollars, go for it. But don't go for it because others say it's great. Go for it if YOU think it's going to be great.

Not at all .... if a $6 cigar is good then it is good just as if a $15 wine is good to you then it's good to you. Last night I had a $14 bottle of 1983 Riesling a $35 bottle of Eno Pinot Noir and $300 bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon ... guess which one was the star of the evening? the Pinot was. Not because it was the least expensive or the most expensive but because it had the most to offer in your glass. Now, the $14 riesling was no slouch either as it was a very interesting wine at a great value but I ended up taking an order for a case of Pinot Noir.

What I appreciate most is when somebody takes the time to taste all of these different priced products and then reach their own conclusion on how these products match their palate. The people who think that a $25 cigar is going to never be worth the price and the people who think that $14 wine will never be good, without trying them for themselves, are the ones that drive me crazy. I tend to lose respect for that type of a persons palate and don't necessarily value their opinions on cigars, wine or food. It's just too easy to say that a FFOX, or Davidoff cigar is good, or that the French Laundry in Napa is an outstanding restaurant.

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The people who think that a $25 cigar is going to never be worth the price and the people who think that $14 wine will never be good, without trying them for themselves, are the ones that drive me crazy. I tend to lose respect for that type of a persons palate and don't necessarily value their opinions on cigars, wine or food. It's just too easy to say that a FFOX, or Davidoff cigar is good, or that the French Laundry in Napa is an outstanding restaurant.

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But isn't that why we have Suckling and Parker? :whistling:

Wilkey
 
The people who think that a $25 cigar is going to never be worth the price and the people who think that $14 wine will never be good, without trying them for themselves, are the ones that drive me crazy. I tend to lose respect for that type of a persons palate and don't necessarily value their opinions on cigars, wine or food. It's just too easy to say that a FFOX, or Davidoff cigar is good, or that the French Laundry in Napa is an outstanding restaurant.

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But isn't that why we have Suckling and Parker? :whistling:

Wilkey

Tell me about it .... just look around at all the people out shopping for wine this time of the year with the Wine Speculator top 100 list in hand. Of course, I'm still proud as all heck of my friends who made the list this year :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: .

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LOL @ Wilkey!

(Whose thoughts about what I said above about utility and authenticity, btw, I would be interested in hearing) ;)
 
What I appreciate most is when somebody takes the time to taste all of these different priced products and then reach their own conclusion on how these products match their palate. The people who think that a $25 cigar is going to never be worth the price and the people who think that $14 wine will never be good, without trying them for themselves, are the ones that drive me crazy. I tend to lose respect for that type of a persons palate and don't necessarily value their opinions on cigars, wine or food. It's just too easy to say that a FFOX, or Davidoff cigar is good, or that the French Laundry in Napa is an outstanding restaurant.

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“The infidelity of the Gentile world, and that more especially of men of rank and learning in it, is resolved into a principle which, in my judgment, will account for the inefficacy of any argument, or any evidence whatever, viz. contempt prior to examination.” <-----linky
 
“The infidelity of the Gentile world, and that more especially of men of rank and learning in it, is resolved into a principle which, in my judgment, will account for the inefficacy of any argument, or any evidence whatever, viz. contempt prior to examination.”

Huh. I've been familiar with the Herbert Spencer version for some years...been quite important in my life actually...but never knew the history of it. Thanks Gary :)
 
“The infidelity of the Gentile world, and that more especially of men of rank and learning in it, is resolved into a principle which, in my judgment, will account for the inefficacy of any argument, or any evidence whatever, viz. contempt prior to examination.”

Huh. I've been familiar with the Herbert Spencer version for some years...been quite important in my life actually...but never knew the history of it. Thanks Gary :)



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