Mixed Cigars and Their Effect on Taste

[Grinn]

As an aspiring cigar afficionado, I was wondering about something. Oftentimes a single cigar will have a filler, binder and/or wrapper that comes from multiple countries. For example, the Don Lino Africa Kifaro's filler consists of tobacco from Cameroon, the Dominican Republic, Mexico and Nicaragua.

Let's say that I like the Kifaro a lot and I find two other cigars that are exactly the same as the Kifaro except that one (Cigar A) has a filler from the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua and Honduras and the other (Cigar B) from Nicaragua, Brazil and Columbia. Would I be more likely to enjoy Cigar A than Cigar B since it more closely matches the countries of origin of the fillers for the Kifaro?

The obvious answer would be "yes", but then it occurred to me that the combination of fillers in the Kifaro might make for a completely unique taste signature. That Cigar A and Cigar B's fillers are no more likely to taste like the Kifaro than a purely Columbian or Brazilian filler.

When considering your answer, don't get caught up on the fact that I'm using the filler as my example. Consider the same question if it were asked for the wrapper or the binder.

Also, when you say the Kifaro's filler is from Dominican Republic, Nicaragua and Honduras does that mean that all (or at least most) Kifaros contain tobaccos from all three countries, or just that they all contain at least some of those countries?

 

[MoeCizlak]

I ain't sayin' nothin'!

 

[grateful1]

As an aspiring cigar afficionado, I was wondering about something. Oftentimes a single cigar will have a filler, binder and/or wrapper that comes from multiple countries. For example, the Don Lino Africa Kifaro's filler consists of tobacco from Cameroon, the Dominican Republic, Mexico and Nicaragua.

Let's say that I like the Kifaro a lot and I find two other cigars that are exactly the same as the Kifaro except that one (Cigar A) has a filler from the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua and Honduras and the other (Cigar B) from Nicaragua, Brazil and Columbia. Would I be more likely to enjoy Cigar A than Cigar B since it more closely matches the countries of origin of the fillers for the Kifaro?

The obvious answer would be "yes", but then it occurred to me that the combination of fillers in the Kifaro might make for a completely unique taste signature. That Cigar A and Cigar B's fillers are no more likely to taste like the Kifaro than a purely Columbian or Brazilian filler.

When considering your answer, don't get caught up on the fact that I'm using the filler as my example. Consider the same question if it were asked for the wrapper or the binder.

Also, when you say the Kifaro's filler is from Dominican Republic, Nicaragua and Honduras does that mean that all (or at least most) Kifaros contain tobaccos from all three countries, or just that they all contain at least some of those countries?

What do you mean? An African or European swallow?

 

[CBoukal]

The Answer is 6.5

 

[_Deon_]

To answer tha quesion, it was just me a matter of taste. You can get diffent filler combinations to have similar taste.

 

[Grinn]

To answer tha quesion, it was just me a matter of taste. You can get diffent filler combinations to have similar taste.

That makes sense. So in your opinion, unless they're exactly the same combination, two cigars having a similar filler combination doesn't mean they will have a similar taste.

 

[kann]

As an aspiring cigar afficionado, I was wondering about something. Oftentimes a single cigar will have a filler, binder and/or wrapper that comes from multiple countries. For example, the Don Lino Africa Kifaro's filler consists of tobacco from Cameroon, the Dominican Republic, Mexico and Nicaragua. Let's say that I like the Kifaro a lot and I find two other cigars that are exactly the same as the Kifaro except that one (Cigar A) has a filler from the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua and Honduras and the other (Cigar B) from Nicaragua, Brazil and Columbia. Would I be more likely to enjoy Cigar A than Cigar B since it more closely matches the countries of origin of the fillers for the Kifaro? The obvious answer would be "yes", but then it occurred to me that the combination of fillers in the Kifaro might make for a completely unique taste signature. That Cigar A and Cigar B's fillers are no more likely to taste like the Kifaro than a purely Columbian or Brazilian filler. When considering your answer, don't get caught up on the fact that I'm using the filler as my example. Consider the same question if it were asked for the wrapper or the binder. Also, when you say the Kifaro's filler is from Dominican Republic, Nicaragua and Honduras does that mean that all (or at least most) Kifaros contain tobaccos from all three countries, or just that they all contain at least some of those countries?

What do you mean? An African or European swallow?

Laden, or Unladen?

 

[grateful1]

To answer tha quesion, it was just me a matter of taste. You can get diffent filler combinations to have similar taste.

That makes sense. So in your opinion, unless they're exactly the same combination, two cigars having a similar filler combination doesn't mean they will have a similar taste.

Just because they come from the same country ..what % of each is in them...and what KIND of each is in them.

Does that help?

 

[Grinn]

To answer tha quesion, it was just me a matter of taste. You can get diffent filler combinations to have similar taste.

That makes sense. So in your opinion, unless they're exactly the same combination, two cigars having a similar filler combination doesn't mean they will have a similar taste.

Just because they come from the same country ..what % of each is in them...and what KIND of each is in them.

Does that help?

Yessir. Yesser it does. Almost as much as your original answer. Also, are you Charity Hodges? I always thought you were a chick.

 

[grateful1]

Yessir. Yesser it does. Almost as much as your original answer. Also, are you Charity Hodges? I always thought you were a chick.

Which part was not clear? The question or the answer?


....and here I thought you were dead, Sir Winston!

 

[broblues]

The conversation is going on right now on another thread about the origin of a cigar's flavor profile. It is being discussed that the wrapper is the main contributor. That said, curing processes, quantities of tobacco leaf used.........it all changes the flavor. I would think maybe you should purchase a sampler or find a brother to buy a single from, and evaluate.

 

[Grinn]

Yessir. Yesser it does. Almost as much as your original answer. Also, are you Charity Hodges? I always thought you were a chick.

Which part was not clear? The question or the answer?


....and here I thought you were dead, Sir Winston!

You weren't unclear. I was just get nervous around boobies. You're saying that knowing the country in which a filler, wrapper, etc. was grown doesn't lend much to helping you determine if you'd like a cigar or not because it could be a different kind of tobacco, or a different % in the mix, or (and now I'm adding my own two cents in) from a different part of the country as the cigar you enjoyed. So, why do so many sites list this information if it's mostly trivial?

(And yes I am dead.)

 

[grateful1]

The conversation is going on right now on another thread about the origin of a cigar's flavor profile. It is being discussed that the wrapper is the main contributor. That said, curing processes, quantities of tobacco leaf used.........it all changes the flavor. I would think maybe you should purchase a sampler or find a brother to buy a single from, and evaluate.

Are you sure about that?

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As for your statement/question...I'll have to get back to this after lunch.

Too nice out to NOT take the bike for a ride!

 

[Roy R. Frush]

Let's say that I like the Kifaro a lot and I find two other cigars that are exactly the same as the Kifaro except that one (Cigar A) has a filler from the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua and Honduras and the other (Cigar B) from Nicaragua, Brazil and Columbia. Would I be more likely to enjoy Cigar A than Cigar B since it more closely matches the countries of origin of the fillers for the Kifaro?

Have you found that all puros taste the same as long as they're from the same country?

 

[grateful1]

This is why I don't believe the wrapper hype - LINKY.

quote from the thread:
In short: a Connecticut broadleaf wrapper over a very mild filler blend could dominate a cigar’s flavor, but a Connecticut shade wrapper over a full-bodied filler certainly would not.

I believe this has been discussed on CP as well!

 

[broblues]

The conversation is going on right now on another thread about the origin of a cigar's flavor profile. It is being discussed that the wrapper is the main contributor. That said, curing processes, quantities of tobacco leaf used.........it all changes the flavor. I would think maybe you should purchase a sampler or find a brother to buy a single from, and evaluate.

Are you sure about that?

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As for your statement/question...I'll have to get back to this after lunch.

Too nice out to NOT take the bike for a ride!

Absolutely positive that conversation is going on, glad that you found it.

 

[grateful1]

Absolutely positive that conversation is going on, glad that you found it.

I was referring to the wrapper being the leading producer of 'flavor'.

 

[Grinn]

Have you found that all puros taste the same as long as they're from the same country?

Good point. I personally couldn't say. I generally don't know the origin of the tobacco that I'm smoking... But I'm sure that they all don't.

I posed this same question to a cigar shop owner yesterday and he pointed out that another factor to consider is the blender. If the company who makes Cigar A uses a different blender than the company that makes Cigar B - the two cigars would most likely have different tobaccos from different regions of the country and/or a different percentage of each (as grateful1 pointed out.)

He did note however that you generally can expect certain taste signatures from certain countries. Would you guys agree?

 

[grateful1]

Have you found that all puros taste the same as long as they're from the same country?

Good point. I personally couldn't say. I generally don't know the origin of the tobacco that I'm smoking... But I'm sure that they all don't.

I posed this same question to a cigar shop owner yesterday and he pointed out that another factor to consider is the blender. If the company who makes Cigar A uses a different blender than the company that makes Cigar B - the two cigars would most likely have different tobaccos from different regions of the country and/or a different percentage of each (as grateful1 pointed out.)

He did note however that you generally can expect certain taste signatures from certain countries. Would you guys agree?

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