Some sad news

[Shooter]

Damn thats no good, I used to watch him all the time....

 

[Adonis_cigars]

Like alot of you here, I thought he would get bitten by something really venomous and nasty. Alot of times I would say "I hope I see him screw up once". but I never wished death on the guy. He had a personality hard NOT to like. As far as the kids go, the nut doesnt fall far from the tree. His dad did simular work for the animal parks down under.



The poor widow.. I dont think even Lloyds(sp?) of London would give him a life insurance policy. Makes ya wonder if the Carribean tobacco growers have the same dangerous critters running through the fields. The workers risking their lives for our cigars!. Its sad when famous, and not famous people get killed in the process of bettering(thats probably not even a word, but it can be for now )human life. Not comparing him to the 9/11 firefighters or anything. I think we should all burn a nice Churchill or Double Corona in the honor of all the unsung heroes of our lives.. whos with me?


Adonis

 

[Brickhouse]

Very sad, I feel for his wife and two kids. Great entertainer IMO and promoter of wildlife. He'll be missed.

 

[Bond]

That's a real shame. His show was usually pretty entertaining to say the least.

 

[AVB]

Crikey! What a way to go.

 

[Smokyballs]

The man was a true conservationist. He died doing something he believed strongly in! Animal Planet is running some really great stuff this evening about him.

 

[Seavita]

That is really sad , I never thought he would go that way.

I dont mean to sound cold but I must say, REALLY! How did you think somone who on a daily basis did everything he could to put himself in harm's way was going to go?? The animals could not have been any more clear that they wanted nothing to do with him and to PLEASE GO AWAY, and while his motived might have been good and pure, teh guy was borderline psychotic. Last night I watched the Iceman and the psychiatrist on HBO aboyt Kulkinski the mob hitman, teh only difference between these two guys psychologically was that Steve was not a homocidal and violent(that we know of) . But the same "lack of fear/adrenalin response and disregard for personal danger is almost parallel. While it was fun to watch it was predictably tragic for his family. That fact that it was a stingray versus a more agressive animal is just natures having the final word on his antics.

 

[benjiev]

The fact is its tragic when any young man or woman are taken in their prime. He had a young wife and 2 young children who are left without a husband and father. I don't think Steve would have had it any other way. He died doing something he enjoyed. He was an animal conservationist and used the media and TV to educate, stimulate and entertain. He will surely be missed.

 

[Zeebra]

At least he died doing what he loved. There could be worse ways to go, RIP.

 

[cigardawg]

That is really sad , I never thought he would go that way.

I dont mean to sound cold but I must say,

You should have stopped right there. If you didn't mean to sound cold, you should have said nothing at all. :angry:

 

[Seavita]

That is really sad , I never thought he would go that way.

I dont mean to sound cold but I must say,

You should have stopped right there. If you didn't mean to sound cold, you should have said nothing at all. :angry:

Look I am not saying that this was a good thing nor am I pleased by anyone dying, quite to the contrary. However at the same time the fact remains that this was not a sad nor as stated above tragic event per se. This man was not struck down or taken from his family. He choose every day to put himslef in perilous and mortal harms way. It was not an accident or tragic, it was by statitistice inevitable. I am a bit of a realist and stating it plainly and truthfully I think everyone who ever watched the show said this guy is gonna get killed sooner or later (probably half the reaon we all watched so intently,kind of like waingt for a car crash at the INDY 500) People stating otherwise just seem a bit holllow. That is all I was saying.

 

[smokelaw1]

However at the same time the fact remains that this was not a sad nor as stated above tragic event per se.

Do you know what per se means? Just because someone in a risky profession dies...it is not sad or tragic? I know the families of a few thousand soldiers who would disagree. I am not equating Steve Irwin's risks to those taken by soldiers, just saying that he took risks, he was killed, and it MOST CERTAINLY IS both sad and tragic.

This man was not struck down or taken from his family. He choose every day to put himslef in perilous and mortal harms way. It was not an accident or tragic, it was by statitistice inevitable.

Um, it was most certainly not by statitice(??) inevitable. There have been, depending on who one listens to, between 3 and 17 deaths by stingray in recorded history.

I am a bit of a realist and stating it plainly and truthfully I think everyone who ever watched the show said this guy is gonna get killed sooner or later (probably half the reaon we all watched so intently,kind of like waingt for a car crash at the INDY 500) People stating otherwise just seem a bit holllow. That is all I was saying.

I'm a realist, too. I too, always thought that there was a higher chance that he would be bitten by a king Brown Snake than I would (I am in the US, and do not, as a rule, handle poisonous snakes). I never, ever wished it on him, and watched the show because I admired his skill with, and love for, the animals he so enthusiastically wished to protect, and educate us all about.

 

[Rod]

That is really sad , I never thought he would go that way.

I dont mean to sound cold but I must say,

You should have stopped right there. If you didn't mean to sound cold, you should have said nothing at all. :angry:

Agreed. Over the line in my opinion. I watched Steve's shows as he was able to educate people in an entertaining manner, not something many people can do. Never did I watch his shows in hopes that he might get struck. Your comments were quite cold.

 

[SamClemmons]

That is really sad , I never thought he would go that way.

I dont mean to sound cold but I must say,

You should have stopped right there. If you didn't mean to sound cold, you should have said nothing at all. :angry:

Look I am not saying that this was a good thing nor am I pleased by anyone dying, quite to the contrary. However at the same time the fact remains that this was not a sad nor as stated above tragic event per se. This man was not struck down or taken from his family. He choose every day to put himslef in perilous and mortal harms way. It was not an accident or tragic, it was by statitistice inevitable. I am a bit of a realist and stating it plainly and truthfully I think everyone who ever watched the show said this guy is gonna get killed sooner or later (probably half the reaon we all watched so intently,kind of like waingt for a car crash at the INDY 500) People stating otherwise just seem a bit holllow. That is all I was saying.

seavita, You remind me of those knuckleheads that protest the war at he funerals of those who fell in Iraq.

I know what "per se" is smokelaw, my wife has about a hundred of them.

So long Steve, you were a class act.

NA

 

[Seavita]

However at the same time the fact remains that this was not a sad nor as stated above tragic event per se.

Do you know what per se means? (a literal translation would be "of or in itself", just ask Gary we had to take Latin for like 5 years at K-O) Just because someone in a risky profession dies...it is not sad or tragic? I know the families of a few thousand soldiers who would disagree. I am not equating Steve Irwin's risks to those taken by soldiers(thank heavens for small favors, A.) Soldier is not a profession as much as a selfless service to their country B.) all the soldiers I know DO NOT TAKE RISKS they do everything in their power to train to eliminate them!!! C.) Shame on you for even putting them in the same sentence), just saying that he took risks, he was killed, and it MOST CERTAINLY IS both sad and tragic. (yes but not for the reasosn stated)

This man was not struck down or taken from his family. He choose every day to put himslef in perilous and mortal harms way. It was not an accident or tragic, it was by statitistice inevitable.

Um, it was most certainly not by statitice(??)( sorry statistics, if you will notice the "e" is directly above the "s" on the keyboard, my bad) inevitable. There have been, depending on who one listens to, between 3 and 17 deaths by stingray(semantics Josh, it was not the specific animal so much as the situations he put himslef in as a whole), in recorded history.

I am a bit of a realist and stating it plainly and truthfully I think everyone who ever watched the show said this guy is gonna get killed sooner or later (probably half the reaon we all watched so intently,kind of like waingt for a car crash at the INDY 500) People stating otherwise just seem a bit holllow. That is all I was saying.

I'm a realist, too. I too, always thought that there was a higher chance that he would be bitten by a king Brown Snake than I would (I am in the US, and do not, as a rule, handle poisonous snakes). I never, ever wished it on him, and watched the show because I admired his skill with, and love for, the animals he so enthusiastically wished to protect, and educate us all about.

P.S. You know Marlin Perkins had all the same attributes, but he lived to a ripe old age because he had a healthy sense of feara and danger and Made Ole' Jim go in the pit after the especially dangerous animals. Listen I will say this again I wish no harm or ill will on Steve's memory or anyone else for that matter, I enjoyed his sho as much as the next guy. But like the race car drivers he was operating under an illusion of "control", and as we all now nature if nothing else is beyond control. To convince oneself otherwise is best summed up by a quote from Days of Thunder by the lovel and talented Ms.Kiddman " Control is an illusion, you infantile egomaniac. Nobody knows what's gonna happen next: not on a freeway, not in an airplane, not inside our own bodies and certainly not on a racetrack with 40 other infantile egomaniacs. (substitute deadly wild animals and nature for all race refrences). So stingray aside, this guy was lined up to go in his choosen line of work sooner rather than later, and anyone who tells me otherwise mine as well be selling me a deed to the Brooklyn Bridge. I will continue watching his show and believing in his cause but I promise I will not shed a single tear for the "sad or tragic event". The real tragedy was that he was not able to get the help he so deseperately needed to cure him of his lifelong deathwish and the impact that it must have had on a daily basis to his family. Thankfully, his mental illness resulted in a well paying career so they will at least be provided for financially as they will no longer have him for emotional and physical support.


Edited: for amateurish typing abilities and bad spelling.

That is really sad , I never thought he would go that way.

I dont mean to sound cold but I must say,

You should have stopped right there. If you didn't mean to sound cold, you should have said nothing at all. :angry:

Look I am not saying that this was a good thing nor am I pleased by anyone dying, quite to the contrary. However at the same time the fact remains that this was not a sad nor as stated above tragic event per se. This man was not struck down or taken from his family. He choose every day to put himslef in perilous and mortal harms way. It was not an accident or tragic, it was by statitistice inevitable. I am a bit of a realist and stating it plainly and truthfully I think everyone who ever watched the show said this guy is gonna get killed sooner or later (probably half the reaon we all watched so intently,kind of like waingt for a car crash at the INDY 500) People stating otherwise just seem a bit holllow. That is all I was saying.

seavita, You remind me of those knuckleheads that protest the war at he funerals of those who fell in Iraq.

I would never even think something like that and as I said to Josh shame on you for even making such a comparison, how horribly ireverant to even put them in the same solar system.


I know what "per se" is smokelaw, my wife has about a hundred of them.

So long Steve, you were a class act.

NA

 

[SamClemmons]

And now I know why you remind me of those knuckleheads.

NA

 

[Rod]

The real tragedy was that he was not able to get the help he so deseperately needed to cure him of his lifelong deathwish and the impact that it must have had on a daily basis to his family. Thankfully, his mental illness resulted in a well paying career so they will at least be provided for financially as they will no longer have him for emotional and physical support.

You sure do have a twisted way of thinking.

 

[smokelaw1]

OK, I couldn't fuigure out how to fix your quotes, but to reply to this :
"(a literal translation would be "of or in itself", just ask Gary we had to take Latin for like 5 years at K-O) Just because someone in a risky profession dies...it is not sad or tragic? I know the families of a few thousand soldiers who would disagree. I am not equating Steve Irwin's risks to those taken by soldiers(thank heavens for small favors, A.) Soldier is not a profession as much as a selfless service to their country B.) all the soldiers I know DO NOT TAKE RISKS they do everything in their power to train to eliminate them!!! C.) Shame on you for even putting them in the same sentence), just saying that he took risks, he was killed, and it MOST CERTAINLY IS both sad and tragic. (yes but not for the reasosn stated) "

A) You know the literal translation, but have, IMHO, misused the term, to say the death is not sad or tragic. Even is downright EXPECTED, is not the death of a loved one tragic?
A #2) Agreed
B) Are you saying being IN A WAR is not RISKY? (they may not, individually TAKE risks, but being a soldier in war IS most clearly RISKY).
c) Please re-read my post, I absolutley and CLEARLY differentiated the REASONS behind the risky endeavors, and used the example to make a seperate point regarding the nature of a tragic or sad occurence.
D) WHat was the reason stated? It is sad and tragic that a man lost his life. A man that is enthusiastically dedicated to a cause. A man with a family. That is sad and tragic. Was it unlikely? Perhaps not. That is, IMHO, the least important consideration at the moment.

 

[mrjinglesusa]

Wow. ???

Some people just don't get it.

 

[cabaiguan juan]

sheesh! Well, I cannot say I'm surprised he died, he was always pushing the envelope, but I am surprised it wasn't a croc. I mean, a string ray of all things? With the amount of different deadly animals he worked with I'm just in disbelief it was a 'harmless' stingray rather then a croc, gator, poisons snake, porcupine, etc. I mean I was expecting an ending like that of the Grizzle Man, he got mauled and then eaten by his namesake. I feel bad for his family and I'm sorry to see Steve C. die, but its not like it was too far fetched for most people.