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That nicotine sweat...

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Eventhorizon

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Hello all and please forgive the rudeness of my first post here being a request for help rather than imparting advice or adding value in some other way...
 
I had been storing my Padron '26 #2 Maduro at 71% before I had the chance to speak with someone at Padron who advised I store them at 65%. Taking his advice and using a combination of cat litter and Boveda 65 (I'm in PA where it is VERY humid) I got my humidor to the needed level quickly. I let the cigars adjust for about week (they had been in the humidor for about two weeks at 71%).  
 
The other night, I was having one of the Padrons  (I've had about 6 of these in the previous three weeks and am not new to cigars of this strength profile by any means) with a measure of Nadurra Scotch. The construction of the cigar was typical with perhaps being a little harder draw than usual (I use Cuban Crafters Perfect Cutter) and it needed tending more than usual in regards to uneven burn but nothing untoward...
 
 All was going well until the last third of the cigar when I got an all body sweat and nauseous stomach.  The sweat wasn't profuse, but definitely odd.  I puffed a couple more from the cigar before not being able to continue. I could taste the nicotine 'sting' but it wasn't overpowering. The cigar had become hot (more than usual) and wasn't comfortable to hold.  The next day I could taste nicotine in my saliva and it wouldn't go away until very much later in the day.
 
This is not my usual experience with this fine cigar. I smoke at the end of the day and usually only two or three a week and always after a good meal.  I've had Padron #9 '26, Cohiba Robustos, Camacho Corojo etc all without any ill effect.  Can anyone suggest why I would have such a strong and negative reaction? 
 
Suggestions and advice warmly welcomed,
 
Thanks
 
Did you smoke it outside?  And you say it was plugged?
 
Oh, and you need to get over to the "introduce yourself" thread and take care of that before you continue.  It will make your first few days here more pleasant.  :whistling:
 
Sounds like an over humidified cigar. Have you calibrated your hygrometer? If you haven't, you really don't know what the humidity is.
Next time a cigar makes you sick try ingesting something sweet. It should shorten the nicotine sickness. Oh, and please do go to the intro forum and let us know who you are. It seems like such a trivial thing but folks here view CP as their home and you wouldn't walk into a stranger's house unannounced would you?

Doc
 
OK, the intro section has been visited...
 
I was smoking outside, it was a humid evening but about 5 mins after it started to downpour and the evening cooled is when I got the sweats... I wouldn't say the cigar was plugged, just that the usual open draw wasn't there.  I remember now cutting a little extra off the head of the cigar to open the draw which was successful.  I've noticed with my batch of Padrons that the head is a little too long for my Cutter's 'hole' and sometimes I've had to cut twice to get the draw I like.
 
Regarding the doctor... I feel fine now, in fact yesterday late afternoon I got on the ergo and rowed a PB for my daily 2500m sprint so I don't think I'm at deaths door unless you have some specific insight in which case I'd be happy to hear it.
 
I had had a good sized dinner about 60 mins before hand.  I think the over humidified cigar is probably the best answer because what had prompted my calling Padron was a strong nicotine taste at the end of the smoke when I had smoked my first couple of #2s.  That was when Jeff @ Padron told me to lower the RH.  I'll leave the cigars for a few more days before dipping into the humidor again.
 
In lieu of going to the doctor but wanting to be prudent about these things I've determined to give myself an adrenaline shot directly into the heart.  
 
Good times!
 
I've experienced first hand the effects humidity outside will have on a cigar. Especially, when it's raining out. They start out great, but when you get to the last third you have to struggle to keep the cigar lit, or burn issues. Then ones impulse might be to draw more frequently to keep it from going out, making the cigar get hot coupled with off flavors....... Horking a cigar like that, or smoking it on an empty stomach could cause what you experienced.
Like Doc said, keep something sugary around for such moments of nicotine sickness. They hit us all at one time or another. No need to over analyze it.
 
Eventhorizon said:
I had had a good sized dinner about 60 mins before hand.  I think the over humidified cigar is probably the best answer because what had prompted my calling Padron was a strong nicotine taste at the end of the smoke when I had smoked my first couple of #2s.  That was when Jeff @ Padron told me to lower the RH.  I'll leave the cigars for a few more days before dipping into the humidor again.
 
In lieu of going to the doctor but wanting to be prudent about these things I've determined to give myself an adrenaline shot directly into the heart.
 
Good times!
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 Won't have to worry about the Nic Kick after that...lol
 
I am not concerned so much by the resemblance between nicotine intoxication and ischemia, as I am the choice of the word "odd" to describe your symptoms. Feelings of impending doom are often associated with cardiac events. It is conceivable that some underlying condition is manifesting due to the increased nicotine you are getting from the cigar. You can consider it an over abundance of caution if you like, but all the same I would hate to read about you.
 
Thank you..........
 
Over Humidified cigars offer the symptoms you describe.  Environment effects our cigars immensely.  Pay attention to your surroundings the next time you light up to learn what environments ill effect your smoking pleasure.  Also remember, these jewels are hand made.  No two are exactly alike, and mistakes happen.
 
Juanote said:
I am not concerned so much by the resemblance between nicotine intoxication and ischemia, as I am the choice of the word "odd" to describe your symptoms. Feelings of impending doom are often associated with cardiac events. It is conceivable that some underlying condition is manifesting due to the increased nicotine you are getting from the cigar. You can consider it an over abundance of caution if you like, but all the same I would hate to read about you.
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I would hate to read about me too, especially as I have my best work ahead of me and said reading would be very dull as a result.  I'm English raised so using words such as 'odd' is pretty normal.  I meant to describe the sweat as 'odd' in that I've not had a sweat reaction to cigars before.  I've had the occasional stomach rumble but not the full blown sweats etc.  If I was going to have a cardiac event it would have happened back in November 2012....
 
I appreciate the concern and will pay more attention in case it's anything more than a wet cigar.
 
Fair enough, I am trained as a part of my job to request medical care where there is doubt and it doesn't bother me to be mistaken or look silly. But anyone who has observed me already realizes that.
 
Cheers.
 
I think a bit of nicotine sickness here and there is to be expected, even among very seasoned cigar smokers.  There are so many external factors outside of the cigar itself, that makes the exact cause of your nicotine sickness difficult to determine through this single incident.  Over multiple instances, the cause could be more readily apparent.  In your specific case, I think the other brothers are right in guessing that it is due to excess humidification.  Especially if that nicotine taste stayed on your palate for as long as it did.
 
The best advice presented here to deal with you nicotine sickness is to ingest a little sugar.  I've often seen experienced cigar smokers carry a few packets of granulated sugar in their travel humidors for instances where they experience a bout of nicotine sickness.  Any sugar will do though, from juice to candy - pick your poison.  
 
If it's of any comfort to you, I've been smoking cigars since 2008, and I still experience bouts of nicotine sickness several times a year.  Sometimes it's simply a lack of food, other times the cigar is more than I can handle, and sometimes, I can't explain it as the cigar that made me nauseous is one from a box that I've smoked numerous cigars from.  As mentioned, cigars are handmade and can differ from cigar to cigar, even when they are from the same box.  This is just a minor hindrance though, and I don't let it detract from my enjoyment of the hobby.
 
So...enjoy your cigars, and when the next bout of nicotine sickness hits you...ingest some sugar and go lie down for awhile until it passes.  
 
Good luck...and enjoy your time at CP...
 
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