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COVID-19 vaccine, you getting it?

Thoughts said:
Yeah, from what I have heard, early effects seem minimal. Now, did I read correctly this is the first time this type of vaccine compound has been used on humans? Or did they use it previously with a different virus compound added to it? that was my biggest hangup, was the thought that we are in early stages of this compound in human testing? I honestly can’t remember if I read that or made it up.
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No mRNA vaccines have never been used on humans before this. It helps cells in our body recognize the virus. It will enter the cell, but not the Nucleus where DNA is stored. Also the mRNA is ultimately destroyed by our immune system.
 
FunkyMunky215 said:
No mRNA vaccines have never been used on humans before this. It helps cells in our body recognize the virus. It will enter the cell, but not the Nucleus where DNA is stored. Also the mRNA is ultimately destroyed by our immune system.
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I heard from a neighbor who is in the medical journalism circle that mRNA vaccines have been experimented with for a while now(~10yrs or so) but it was Covid that provided the focus and the funding to take it from experimental into reality.
 
cabaiguan juan said:
I heard from a neighbor who is in the medical journalism circle that mRNA vaccines have been experimented with for a while now(~10yrs or so) but it was Covid that provided the focus and the funding to take it from experimental into reality.
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Yeah, they have experimented with it for a long while with other things like flu and other viruses, which most certainly aided in production, and covid most definitely gave the whole approval process a kick in the ass.
 
Last time I went to a restaurant was Monday, March 16, 2020, in Saint Paul.
That was the last day restaurants were open, before the shut down.
The place was only about 15% occupied, and there was a group of Minnesota state legislators in there having a 'very good' time. 🍻
Funny how I really don't miss dining in that much now.
 
TexasTraveler said:
A member brought his political bias into the conversation, while insulting everyone that disagreed with him... I simply called him out on it... I am certainly not passing judgment as you can see I have liked just about every response to this thread, even if I didn’t agree with their stance...
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Like I said, I agree with with a lot of your points.
 
Not A Nice Person said:
Had my first shot of Moderna last Friday. As a teacher, even down here at the ass end of the highway in Texas, once the HHS added us to the priority list there was only a 12 hour wait time between my signing up online & getting my vaccination appointment via text message.

The Biden administration has literally purchased enough vaccine for every human in America & is on track to blow their "100M in 100 Days" goal out of the water by close to 50% over. Anyone who doesn't have theirs by summer is just dragging their heels!

Not to get political here, but 1 in 5 Americans think the sun revolves around the earth and something like 1 in 4 think the earth is only 6,000 years old. I'm just gonna hazard a guess that science is not really our strong suit in this country & anyone that goes all anti-vaxxer on this is getting the 🤨 from me as to which of those OTHER groups they might belong in. 😂

I just wanna eat in a restaurant & hug my grandniece again. Safely.

~Boar
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The difference between you (and people like you) and I is, when someone tells ME they got the vaccine, I say congratulations! I’m glad you were able to get one. I truly hope it works out for ya.

on the other hand, you and people like you, say to those of us with no interest in getting the vaccine and refuse to submit to the mask dance, that we are uneducated fools(eg: sun/earth comment, etc).

Quite telling, if I must say. And there’s ZERO political in this post.

I hope you get to eat out soon. I’ve been eating out and hugging loved ones since it began.
Floyd T
 
One thing I am unclear about is why anti-body tests are not done prior to vaccinations. Given limited vaccine supply, and most data showing a really low re-infection rate and since the vaccine is to mimic having had the virus to achieve immunity why wouldn't anti-body tests be a precursor to the shot?

From what I have seen in my area, the virus was here well before Feb/Mar 2020. As testing was limited (no political innuendo simply a fact) for many months after the pandemic was declared, many people may have been infected but fortunately did not have a severe illness. In a local news report from June 2020, a woman with four children sent her kids to camp. All 4 tested positive for the virus. 3 had diarrhea for about 48 hours, one had the respiratory, high fever and was more ill than the other 3. I cite this to illustrate that some people may have had the virus without meeting the all the symptoms.

So, I am hesitant on the vaccine because I am unclear why I should get vaccinated without having an anti-body test first. And if the antibody test shows I have had Covid19, then why should I get the vaccine?

I have worked for big pharma companies. Profit has a way of influencing science.
 
Are the antibodies permanent once you've had COVID? My daughter in Hawaii is currently positive for it, and has been moderately sickly for the past two weeks with the usual suspects as far as symptoms go. She's had two positive tests, so she's definitely got it. Now, at the end of 2019, before COVID-19 and "coronavirus" were part of our daily lexicon, she was very, very sick with flu and other symptoms for several weeks. Lots of respiratory problems, and she should have been admitted to the hospital on probably more than one occasion, but she never went back when she really needed to (hey, what does Dad know...?). It was definitely some sort of flu (so, a coronavirus), but this was well before COVID testing. She worked in tourism at the time down in Waikiki, and regularly came into contact with visitors from China and other eastern areas. She had her annual flu shot, as well. I'm not a doctor, I don't play one on TV, and I didn't sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night, but it feels to me like it could have surely been an early, undiagnosed COVID-19 case. So, question is: If she already had it over a year ago, can someone get it again?

Re: Anthrax -- I mentioned this debacle somewhere else. Those were some bullshit times, for sure. Never got sick, myself, but know someone who developed perpetual headaches after starting the series. Related? Can't say for myself. There were absolutely cases of severe and life-altering side effects from it. As mentioned, good people were punished and/or separated for refusal to take the shots. Once it finally became optional, you still had to jump through a mile of flaming hoops to opt out -- and in many cases it still left an unofficial black mark on your career. The anthrax vax only impacted readiness if you were going into the AOR where exposure was a possibility. COVID exposure is worldwide and prevalent at home, as well. I'm not sure how DoD is handling it (flu shots used to be mandatory); I'll have to ask my wife. She's civ DoD, so won't be mandated in any manner, but definitely plans on getting it when available at the embassy.
 
kann said:
Are the antibodies permanent once you've had COVID? My daughter in Hawaii is currently positive for it, and has been moderately sickly for the past two weeks with the usual suspects as far as symptoms go. She's had two positive tests, so she's definitely got it. Now, at the end of 2019, before COVID-19 and "coronavirus" were part of our daily lexicon, she was very, very sick with flu and other symptoms for several weeks. Lots of respiratory problems, and she should have been admitted to the hospital on probably more than one occasion, but she never went back when she really needed to (hey, what does Dad know...?). It was definitely some sort of flu (so, a coronavirus), but this was well before COVID testing. She worked in tourism at the time down in Waikiki, and regularly came into contact with visitors from China and other eastern areas. She had her annual flu shot, as well. I'm not a doctor, I don't play one on TV, and I didn't sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night, but it feels to me like it could have surely been an early, undiagnosed COVID-19 case. So, question is: If she already had it over a year ago, can someone get it again?
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Oddly enough I just got to work and was talking with our events director; he had Covid at the end of October, at that time we were told by the professionals that the antibodies would last 3 months. Shortly after that some professional came out and said they now last up to 5 months or longer. Well anyways, our events director went for his annual check up on March 1st and they did an antibody test and he is still "positive" for it, meaning he still is immune to it. So that is at least 4-5 months, it could be longer...who the hell knows?
But as for your daughter and her experience, I know we have talked about it before, but I had the same deal on Jan. 27 2020.
 
The problem with this thread is it should have been a survey type. Yes, No, Undecided. It leads for people to post their personal bias, which may or may not include political commentary. Rod should just close it as it doesn't serve a purpose anymore.
 
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